Some twats!

[graham4877 1,181]

If you were told you were on private land but you still did not take heed and went back again then i do think you are asking for trouble and putting your dog at risk what if he did shoot the dog ???? its all very well running to the police but the damage is already done your down one dog, so if i was you take the dog some where else to run it.

Or better still go back keep the dog on the lead and look for the same dick head that has said he will shoot dog's and ask him about what he will do get him to tell you the full story again

BUT THIS TIME RECORED THE HOLE f*****g THING TO TRAP THE c**t GET HOME RING THE LOCAL PLOD TELL THEM WHAT HAS WENT OFF LET HIM HERE THE TAPE RECOREDING !!! BY BY BY FAC!

[iamduvern 62]

The simple fact is if you are on private propety without owners consent then you are tresspasing if the dog is off the lead and running free and anywhere near livestock and  the land owner or their agent feels that the stock is under threat then they are legally allowed to take resonable steps to protect livestock

 

If they happen to have a gun to hand then they are entitled to use it but they cannot threaten to shoot a dog at a later date (threatening to use a firearm is in its self an offence)

 

 

[BooMster 11]

If a Keeper shot my dog i'd whipe all his Livestock out!

Edited August 30, 2010 by BooMster

[Pops 19]

i wouldn't mess w/ anyones animals, it's not their fault they are owned by a twat. but i would definitely get revenge.

[Moorman 1 1,337]

If the stalking is rented out i.e. paid for and you are on private land then he is perfectly within his rights to shoot dogs if they are chasing his deer.

Even if the deer are not farmed,they are on his land and you don't have permission.Like someone said once he has pulled the trigger you aren't getting your dog back so he has won.

[scothunter 12,609]

If the stalking is rented out i.e. paid for and you are on private land then he is perfectly within his rights to shoot dogs if they are chasing his deer.

Even if the deer are not farmed,they are on his land and you don't have permission.Like someone said once he has pulled the trigger you aren't getting your dog back so he has won.

 

it would be a costly win

[danw 1,748]

For fecks sake how many of you have had your dogs shot NONE and it is more than likely to be a shepherd than any keeper who shoots a dog.

when I have stopped lads I never mention shooting their dog it ain't the dogs fault I front up to them and it goes one of 2 ways I get the kicking or he does and that's an end to it but I have to say I ain't ever stopped someone walking where they are entitled to no mater what breed of dog they own.

[DogMagic 461]

Thanks for the replies peeps. Just a couple of points: The ground is a scabby little patch of brambles, nothing to shout about but hey ho it was convenient when my moter was off the road and i didnt want to put on my dad to much driving me all over the place. There are deer there, plenty in fact, no livestock anywhere near. The deer are wild. I wouldnt want permission there because of all the dog walkers and tourists. There ARE some fields there that are just grassland which is where i was walking during the second encounter with the jobsworth. These fields had a footpath all the way round them which i kept to and also which leads off of the main footpath which IS a right of way. There are no signs saying its private property.

 

As far as i know they might have (or did have) a problem with pikeys lamping deer. The jobsworth told me a few things including they had to get the arsepca out to put one down cos it had a big gash out of its side and that they have found some places where the barbed wire fence had been tied up "to allow the deer to get thru easier"! Lol!

 

Anyway all i was after was rabbits and they werent to easy to get hold of cos of all the brambles! I aint been there for a while now cos iv got my moter back and i can go to much better places. Those deer however will keep for the time being.

[Moorman 1 1,337]

If the stalking is rented out i.e. paid for and you are on private land then he is perfectly within his rights to shoot dogs if they are chasing his deer.

Even if the deer are not farmed,they are on his land and you don't have permission.Like someone said once he has pulled the trigger you aren't getting your dog back so he has won.

 

it would be a costly win

 

 

May be but once your dog has been shot its too late.

[ASME IX 1]

The simple fact is if you are on private propety without owners consent then you are tresspasing if the dog is off the lead and running free and anywhere near livestock and the land owner or their agent feels that the stock is under threat then they are legally allowed to take resonable steps to protect livestock

 

If they happen to have a gun to hand then they are entitled to use it but they cannot threaten to shoot a dog at a later date (threatening to use a firearm is in its self an offence)

 

THINK YOU WILL FIND THEY HAVE TO RING THE POLICE AND PROVIDE EVIDENCE OF THE DOG WORRYING FIRST BEFORE PULLING THE TRIGER,IF THEY SHOOT FIRST THEN ASK QUESTIONS LATER THEN THERE GOING TO HAVE SOME ANSWERING TO DO TO THE OLD BILL...

IF THE DOG IS WORRYING SHEEP THEN SHAME ON THE OWNER...ALLWAYS A CASE OF ACTIONS AND CONSEQUENCES

 

AMSE9

Edited August 30, 2010 by ASME IX

[danw 1,748]

The simple fact is if you are on private propety without owners consent then you are tresspasing if the dog is off the lead and running free and anywhere near livestock and  the land owner or their agent feels that the stock is under threat then they are legally allowed to take resonable steps to protect livestock

 

If they happen to have a gun to hand then they are entitled to use it but they cannot threaten to shoot a dog at a later date (threatening to use a firearm is in its self an offence)

 

THINK YOU WILL FIND THEY HAVE TO RING THE POLICE AND PROVIDE EVIDENCE OF THE DOG WORRYING FIRST BEFORE PULLING THE TRIGER,IF THEY SHOOT FIRST THEN ASK QUESTIONS LATER THEN THERE GOING TO HAVE SOME ANSWERING TO DO TO THE OLD BILL...

IF THE DOG IS WORRYING SHEEP THEN SHAME ON THE OWNER...ALLWAYS A CASE OF ACTIONS AND CONSEQUENCES

 

AMSE9

 

By law it is only required that the owner of the livestock informs the police within 48 hours of shooting the dog it would then be up to the owner to file a complaint of criminal damage to which the livestock owner would have a legal defence you would then find that the livestock owner would take you for criminal damage to his animals.

[danw 1,748]

9 Killing of or injury to dogs worrying livestock

(1)In any civil proceedings against a person (in this section referred to as the defendant) for killing or causing injury to a dog it shall be a defence to prove—

(a)that the defendant acted for the protection of any livestock and was a person entitled to act for the protection of that livestock; and

(b)that within forty-eight hours of the killing or injury notice thereof was given by the defendant to the officer in charge of a police station.

(2)For the purposes of this section a person is entitled to act for the protection of any livestock if, and only if—

(a)the livestock or the land on which it is belongs to him or to any person under whose express or implied authority he is acting; and

(b)the circumstances are not such that liability for killing or causing injury to the livestock would be excluded by section 5(4) of this Act.

(3)Subject to subsection (4) of this section, a person killing or causing injury to a dog shall be deemed for the purposes of this section to act for the protection of any livestock if, and only if, either—

(a)the dog is worrying or is about to worry the livestock and there are no other reasonable means of ending or preventing the worrying; or

(b)the dog has been worrying livestock, has not left the vicinity and is not under the control of any person and there are no practicable means of ascertaining to whom it belongs.

(4)For the purposes of this section the condition stated in either of the paragraphs of the preceding subsection shall be deemed to have been satisfied if the defendant believed that it was satisfied and had reasonable ground for that belief.

(5)For the purposes of this section—

(a)an animal belongs to any person if he owns it or has it in his possession; and

(b)land belongs to any person if he is the occupier thereof.

[DogMagic 461]

So basically it IS legal but a license aint needed AND he would have to leave the country along with his family to avoid reprisals?! Lol!

 

But as i say there aint any livestock on the place TO worry and the deer are wild so it AINT legal.

[ASME IX 1]

how would a landowner differentiate the stress(worry)levels of sheep,ie between a dog running through and around the sheep and a collie hearding the sheep??

[Guest my balls your mouth]

id burn there foooking farm down and shoot there cows

Of course you would..... :showoff:

listen here lad you want to be scared, i do 10 press ups and 10 sit ups every night