doubling up a young dog on rabbits

[watchman 256]

well i have started my 11month old bitch off,and after her first successful catch last night it just got me thinking,iv just read on another thread someone has run their young dog doubled up on rabbits to get it going as it were,for me this is a complete NO....NO...,why?well nearly twenty years ago i went out with a lad that was in this game to show me the ropes with a young bitch i had to start her off.

instructions were given that i should slip my bitch with his older seasoned dog so i did,her first ever run,and off they went,my mates dog turned the rabbit along the hedgerow into the path of my dog and as my dog snatched it up the inevitable happened,my bitch collided with his dog and all hell broke loose,what i mean is my mates dog screamed like a banshee unable to get up off the floor,the sound of the collision was like a pistol shot and iv never quite got my head around the fact that a broken leg could actually sound like that from a distance.

a harsh lesson learnt by my mate to see the end of a 5 year old dog that was put down on the spot,a very bad break to say the least.

not to say i haven't done the odd double on larger quarry pre-ban but for me doubling up on bunnies is a complete no,just a word of warning really for those that do and may well have got away with it for years,you just never know,this game its to easy to lose a dog without increasing the chances jmo thats all

Edited July 19, 2011 by watchman

[GET THEM OUT (.)(.) 39]

good post but whos to say your dog isnt going to runs its next rabbit, slip, buckle and breaks its neck ? i see were your coming from but the on a scale of a dangerous run it would equal to running your dog at the side of a wood ? or am i being daft ?

[watchman 256]

good post but whos to say your dog isnt going to runs its next rabbit, slip, buckle and breaks its neck ? i see were your coming from but the on a scale of a dangerous run it would equal to running your dog at the side of a wood ? or am i being daft ?

you said it yourself mate,"slip, buckle and breaks its neck" to easy to lose a dog anyway without adding to it,as i say jmo that's all

[Guest AngelicAcid]

Just let them do it themselves, might pick up very bad habits.

they will develop their own running styles, it could stop a good pup from retrieving at all as well.

[GET THEM OUT (.)(.) 39]

good post but whos to say your dog isnt going to runs its next rabbit, slip, buckle and breaks its neck ? i see were your coming from but the on a scale of a dangerous run it would equal to running your dog at the side of a wood ? or am i being daft ?

you said it yourself mate,"slip, buckle and breaks its neck" to easy to lose a dog anyway without adding to it,as i say jmo that's all

 

 

always seems to be the case, very hard to have a "good" dog but always so easy to loose a good one, ,

[Malt 379]

I done it with mine a handful of times when he was starting out with his sire. He has returned as soon as the lamp is off ever since.. It worked for me, but that's not to say it's the right and correct thing to do.

[Paul in North Lincs 15]

Id be more concerned about giving a pup a possession problem, running rabbits with another dog. If it misses and they get into tug of war with it, you've knackered the job.

 

Also a seasoned dog is bound to catch it before a sapling.....and fustration also creates all manner of mister meaners that are hard to correct.

 

Green rabbits ant that hard to catch......doubling up on em is a one way ticket to the dogs home

[GET THEM OUT (.)(.) 39]

Id be more concerned about giving a pup a possession problem, running rabbits with another dog. If it misses and they get into tug of war with it, you've knackered the job.

 

Also a seasoned dog is bound to catch it before a sapling.....and fustration also creates all manner of mister meaners that are hard to correct.

 

Green rabbits ant that hard to catch......doubling up on em is a one way ticket to the dogs home

 

not everyone will have the chance for the green bunnys, to help a pup on with running the lamp and watching the beam i will double up but that is not with any dog, i will with one of my bitches but not another, as you say the frustrtion and jealously can ruin dogs,

[watchman 256]

Id be more concerned about giving a pup a possession problem, running rabbits with another dog. If it misses and they get into tug of war with it, you've knackered the job.

 

Also a seasoned dog is bound to catch it before a sapling.....and fustration also creates all manner of mister meaners that are hard to correct.

 

Green rabbits ant that hard to catch......doubling up on em is a one way ticket to the dogs home

 

not everyone will have the chance for the green bunnys, to help a pup on with running the lamp and watching the beam i will double up but that is not with any dog, i will with one of my bitches but not another, as you say the frustrtion and jealously can ruin dogs,

i agree it can be frustrating when a young dog doesn't follow the beam on a sweep,but walking it up on a few bunnies with a few words of encouragement to get them going is not really any hardship,and to be fair within a few nights generally the dog will pick it up anyway

[GET THEM OUT (.)(.) 39]

Id be more concerned about giving a pup a possession problem, running rabbits with another dog. If it misses and they get into tug of war with it, you've knackered the job.

 

Also a seasoned dog is bound to catch it before a sapling.....and fustration also creates all manner of mister meaners that are hard to correct.

 

Green rabbits ant that hard to catch......doubling up on em is a one way ticket to the dogs home

 

not everyone will have the chance for the green bunnys, to help a pup on with running the lamp and watching the beam i will double up but that is not with any dog, i will with one of my bitches but not another, as you say the frustrtion and jealously can ruin dogs,

i agree it can be frustrating when a young dog doesn't follow the beam on a sweep,but walking it up on a few bunnies with a few words of encouragement to get them going is not really any hardship,and to be fair within a few nights generally the dog will pick it up anyway

 

often the case, the bitch am running atm would half run bunnys when young, i started slipping her with my other bitch, it seemed to be the case that she realised that she was ok to run them as she could see the other dog doing so, after a couple of runs i holded her back the rest of the week letting her watch, now she flies in like a steam train, ive had other pups that take to it like they was a seasonal proffesional, every dog is different, to be able to understand the reason why they acting up is the hard bit, they all need bringing up in different ways i wouldnt get stuck in a routine on how to bring on a young dog tbh.

[romany52 313]

When a pup is mature enough to start, it's mature enough to run and catch on it's own. I've seen too many collisions to make doubling up worth the risk, plus all the other bad habits it causes.

[Big bald beautiful 1,231]

i can never understand why folks use two dogs to run ferreted rabbits, ive seen two dogs on one lamped rabbit.

makes the dogs look wank and the guy look worse.

just asking for trouble

[look up 406]

i can,t see how a pup would benfit from being doubled up. for one the older dog will catch the rabbit before the pup .if the older dog has bad habbits ie dont retrive hunts up a bit .and its dangeres.im no expert but what i do is take the pup out with the older dog for a couple of nights let the pup see afew rabbit get up and the older dog chase them. just so they can see the chase and rabbit. and see what that big white light is for .then take them out on there own the night after .so it is still fresh in there head .it has worked for me and as a person i find watching someone doing somthing is easyer to take in. than rushing right in to it.jmo

[Guest my balls your mouth]

i always double up you catch more that way

[romany52 313]

i always double up you catch more that way

Why don't you double up and use a shotgun, you'll get even more !