back off badgers

[craigyboy 1,274]

culling would only be expensive because the kunts in suits would make it that way,i could get a list of people as long as my fecking arm that would carry out the cull humanely and efficiently and for FECK ALL

 

So you'd be happy to give up work to spend 6 months culling badgers all day every day, good on ya mate very public spirited of you.

 

Just one question if its not been shown to affect TB rates in cattle what would be the point?

i didnt say i would do it single handed,theres people up an down the country that would carry out the cull,as to your question,the cull hasnt been carried out yet so whether it affects tb rates in cattle i dont know...theres only one way to find out tho

[craigyboy 1,274]

this country is in massive debt an theyre considering vaccinating badgers,jesus christ,think of all the money that will cost,theres an estimated 250,000 adult badgers in the uk,thats a lot of vaccines plus the staff to do it

 

Without wishing to bring too much reality to your happy rantings the vaccination would be a much cheaper option as the vaccine is taken orally and can be left out on bait for the badgers.

 

Culling is hardly a cheap option either and there is no conclusive proof, despite tests being done that it has any effect on TB rates in cattle. The cheapest option is to cull the infected cattle, they are easy to find after all, and have better control over the movements of cattle around the country.

Culling could be free if there werent a law against diggin them!

cheap and practical

[terrier410 53]

this country is in massive debt an theyre considering vaccinating badgers,jesus christ,think of all the money that will cost,theres an estimated 250,000 adult badgers in the uk,thats a lot of vaccines plus the staff to do it

 

Without wishing to bring too much reality to your happy rantings the vaccination would be a much cheaper option as the vaccine is taken orally and can be left out on bait for the badgers.

 

Culling is hardly a cheap option either and there is no conclusive proof, despite tests being done that it has any effect on TB rates in cattle. The cheapest option is to cull the infected cattle, they are easy to find after all, and have better control over the movements of cattle around the country.

Culling could be free if there werent a law against diggin them!

cheap and practical

to fckn easy to leave the local lads doin what they used to do and fck the jonny come lately lads with there videos/.our fault for inviting them.no fckn more(closed shop)we are all to blame

[craigyboy 1,274]

guests are out in force again,they only have to see the b word and theyre like flies round shit,get a life you :wankerzo4: surely its time these kunts were banned

[Ideation 8,216]

They are EVERYWHERE round me - certainly in no short supply.

[terrier410 53]

They are EVERYWHERE round me - certainly in no short supply.

so are you for a cul or against yes or no will do.

[CarraghsGem 92]

this country is in massive debt an theyre considering vaccinating badgers,jesus christ,think of all the money that will cost,theres an estimated 250,000 adult badgers in the uk,thats a lot of vaccines plus the staff to do it

 

Without wishing to bring too much reality to your happy rantings the vaccination would be a much cheaper option as the vaccine is taken orally and can be left out on bait for the badgers.

 

Culling is hardly a cheap option either and there is no conclusive proof, despite tests being done that it has any effect on TB rates in cattle. The cheapest option is to cull the infected cattle, they are easy to find after all, and have better control over the movements of cattle around the country.

Culling could be free if there werent a law against diggin them!

cheap and practical

to fckn easy to leave the local lads doin what they used to do and fck the jonny come lately lads with there videos/.our fault for inviting them.no fckn more(closed shop)we are all to blame

 

SOME young lads are a hazard to all sport, the same lads that get a pit-bull to show off to their mates with + set it on some old ladys lapdog, or get a bull lurcher to show off on you-tube etc hunting fox, deer, livestock brazenly drawing heat down on everyone else or they go into terrier work to copy their mates and to prove how hard they are and leave setts destroyed after themselves and ruin decent dogs. same as everything else in hunting, time to cull out the deadwood so everything else can flourish.

[anagallis_arvensis 2]

the cull hasnt been carried out yet so whether it affects tb rates in cattle i dont know

 

Culls have already taken place in a number of areas to look at how a larger cull might work, and the answers were they didnt help and in some cases made it worse.

 

Having a cull isnt the same as the issue of digging being legal or illegal they are two different things. Also, no offence intended, but a few half arsed people going about digging wont help either. If a cull was to be effective it would have to be done properly with all the badgers in a huge area killed in a short period of time.

[foxtrotloader 0]

the cull hasnt been carried out yet so whether it affects tb rates in cattle i dont know

 

Culls have already taken place in a number of areas to look at how a larger cull might work, and the answers were they didnt help and in some cases made it worse.

 

Having a cull isnt the same as the issue of digging being legal or illegal they are two different things. Also, no offence intended, but a few half arsed people going about digging wont help either. If a cull was to be effective it would have to be done properly with all the badgers in a huge area killed in a short period of time.

are you and ideation from the same school.? are you both school teachers.?

[craigyboy 1,274]

the cull hasnt been carried out yet so whether it affects tb rates in cattle i dont know

 

Culls have already taken place in a number of areas to look at how a larger cull might work, and the answers were they didnt help and in some cases made it worse.

 

Having a cull isnt the same as the issue of digging being legal or illegal they are two different things. Also, no offence intended, but a few half arsed people going about digging wont help either. If a cull was to be effective it would have to be done properly with all the badgers in a huge area killed in a short period of time.

i agree to a point mate,but im not talking about some half witted scally and his cronies going round torturing the things,but you and me both know there are thousands of responsible,decent law abiding people out there,that if arranged properly could quite easily carry out the cull of badgers in a specific area in a short space of time

[anagallis_arvensis 2]

are you and ideation from the same school.? are you both school teachers.?

 

nope why?

 

I'm not sure it would be easy to carry out the cull, and cull is he wrong word. Its not culling a few to control numbers its killing the whole lot, every last one.

 

THE KREBS TRIAL

 

* 30 areas of the country selected, each 100 square km

* 10 culled proactively, 10 reactively, 10 not culled

* Badgers culled through being caught in cage and then shot

* Incidence of bovine TB measured on farms inside and outside study areas

* Reactive culling suspended early after significant rise in infection, proactive culling reduced infection rates inside the culled area but increased it outside the culled area

 

* Trial cost £7m per year

* More than 11,000 badgers killed

Edited August 26, 2010 by anagallis_arvensis

[terrier410 53]

are you and ideation from the same school.? are you both school teachers.?

 

nope why?

 

I'm not sure it would be easy to carry out the cull, and cull is he wrong word. Its not culling a few to control numbers its killing the whole lot, every last one

i am pissed but can't understand your point are you pissed also.?

[Ideation 8,216]

They are EVERYWHERE round me - certainly in no short supply.

so are you for a cul or against yes or no will do.

 

Don't know enough about the situation to make a decision, just meant that they are certainly not 'endangered' around me as some anti's like to try and suggest.

[Richie10 345]

There are tons about these days.

 

If they are going to vacinate badgers, then you would have to have a deer cull as well. Personally what really should happen is to isolate cattle that have not been infected. Cull the rest of the cattle, which can still go into the food chain, which is strange, then start with an unaffected batch.

If it is indeed due to cattle to cattle movements it should be evident.

 

The funny thing about anti's is that they believe that if you leave a population alone it will only be as big as the amount of food is there to sustain it. That is fair enough, but that means that foxes and badgers can eat all the rest of the fauna in the area with their increaseing population until nothing is left and then their population will reduce, Problem is that their food is supplimented by people feeding them. Basically they place more importance in the apex predators than the other fauna below them in the food chain, such as ground nesting birds and rare rodents.

[anagallis_arvensis 2]

The funny thing about anti's is that they believe that if you leave a population alone it will only be as big as the amount of food is there to sustain it. That is fair enough, but that means that foxes and badgers can eat all the rest of the fauna in the area with their increaseing population until nothing is left and then their population will reduce, Problem is that their food is supplimented by people feeding them. Basically they place more importance in the apex predators than the other fauna below them in the food chain, such as ground nesting birds and rare rodents.

 

exactly, and as an ecologist(ie a scientist not a tree hugger) what grips my shit is that anti's claim to be "ecological" but dont understand the science and the pro hunters think all ecologists are tree huggers and anti's and so they ignore the science too