manchester terrier, anybody work them?

[shotgunandy 2]

so is it one of those breeds that has died out entirely as a working animal or does anyone know of anybody who has kept the breed going as a working animal. i guess the problem is that eventually the gene pool will be too small to continue the lines without deformities and without using show stock. such a shame when good dogs are ruined by the kennel club and unfortunately it seems to be more and more common.

[CarraghsGem 92]

Hope folk don't mind me bumping this back up.

My first dog was a Manchester Terrier. Back in late 70's my Mum got her from Grimsby. I was only 4 and she was a bloody brilliant little dog.

I hadn't seen a ''manny'' for decades after but when I did last year I was mortified at the appearance of the ones I seen. I just wondered if anyone has any piks of theirs to share as the bitch I had was nothing like the one's I've seen recently!

I should find some old piks of her and get them scanned on here.

 

please dig out those pics, be nice to see them

[stokesey 0]

heres a pic of some old manchester terriers 1890s black and tan ratting the dog below is called jacko hes labeld as bull and terrier weighed 12lbs beat billys record i think i read that hulme used this dog over a whippet the ofspring become known as manchester terrier dont kno what this lil fella is but i just like pic

[wippydoo 12]

Kc load of shite id like to see one go to ground and tackle a fox the like the one on the right or even a small vixen

 

 

Kc load of shite id like to see one go to ground and tackle a fox the like the one on the right or even a small vixen

 

 

They never were bred for foxes or even going to ground after anything else for that matter... You may as well slag a whippet off for not being able to go to ground and work fox...

 

 

the modern day manchester terrier is about as much use as a bottomless bucket there so inbred skitish things with common faults ie kidney problem brittle bones etc etc lot also suffer from fits what use is that as a working dog , the show kc lot and working terriers should never mix it always in a down hill slope

 

sorry but youre getting mannies mixed up with some other breed maybe italian greyhounds?they have very fragile brittle bones and also suffer from epilepsy and kidney trouble.please dont confuse a mannie with an italian greyhound theyre completely different dogs.mannies arent bred to go to ground they arent a fox dog they were bred solely as a ratcatcher and at that they excel.i had them in the '70's and there were sturdy tough little dogs who would have a go at anything and wouldnt back down,thats their biggest fault.theyre a disgustingly healthy breed i never saw a vet with any of mine apart from one time a bitch of mine tackled one of my dobermanns and nearly got killed as she wouldnt back off and turned and bit me when i tried to drag her away from the fight.she had a hole in her neck you could put your fist into the vet couldnt stitch her up but a few weeks down the line she was fine and the wound healed and never even left a scar.hard as nails.

as for the KC and people constantly knocking them and show dogs all mine were show dogs and i bred a few champions but they were also ratcatchers and family pets.i do have this to say, if it wasnt for the KC show breeders there would be no manchester terriers alive now as they fell from favour when the ear cropping laws came out many years ago and never regained popularity.so you have a small core of dedicated breeders who keep this now sadly endangered breed going.i havent seen any for a few years now and went to blackpool championship show a couple of years ago with wild whippies and sad to say i agree with her there were some awful specimens there,but i also know of a couple of breeders over grimsby way who still have one of the original lines and theyre brilliant little dogs.i also knew a lady who showed her mannies when we did and she was at the time the only licensed female pest controller in the uk.and yes she used her show dogs for vermin control

Edited October 1, 2010 by wippydoo

[alexcjacko 1]

sorry for hijacking this thread, but isnt there a manchester terrier based lurcher strain often in the cmw?

[Mosby 355]

Had a manchester. Not hard but caught about 130 coons before the age of 2 and I sold him to my sis to get money for a new bitch and pup. It was a super great hunting dog. The best locator at the age he was that I've had. I would take another. I'm even thinking about it reading this thread brings back memories. All my friends were pissed when I got rid of him. I've had plenty patterdales and so far only 2 have located as well. The Jagd crosses I've got now are the closest in locating ability I've seen. The Manchester I had was a muscle bound dog as well. Snipy nose like a whippet though. My Grandmother had a dog she called a manchester back in the 1920's it was a brown and white dog and my dad a black and tan one in the 1950's that he caught the hell out of game with. My parents have a picture of the brown and white dog. I'll see if I can't find it sometime. And I've got some pics of mine.

[judge2010 196]

just been lookin threw a few terrier breeds an done a bit of reading on Manchester terriers, look like sharp little dogs jus wondering if anbody on hear works them???

i was in dartford a few weeks ago and the damage a fox did to a manchester terrier, i wouldn't work them another breed fell victim to the KC brigade imo.

[TOPPER 1,809]

whippydoo , i know a few people who breed this crap they call manchester terriers as a breed there fcked the only way i see they could come back is with a big injection of bull whippet some thing like JP pocket rockets and put some substance back into them but this would be a long road and would take a good few dedicated lads to do it , atb top

[Mosby 355]

If you wanted a working manchester type, I think the best thing to do would be to cross a working jagd with a black working whippet and selectively cull toward a type. This is essentially what the manchester is. Breed down the size to about a 16 pound dog.