When buying rimfire ammo?

[LordGamebore 0]

When you purchase rifle ammo, say for a .22RF, does the gunshop owner/employee wrtie the ammount purchased on your FAC, or/and do you have to notify the police of your purchase?

 

I'm still waiting on my FAC, however when I do get it I'll want to do a fair ammount of target work to become proficient before moving onto living quarry. Someone has told me that any kind of plinking/target shooting on land, other than for zeroing, is a big no, and the police keep a track of how much ammo is being purchased.

 

 

Sorry if this silly question, I just want to set off on the right foot.

 

 

Cheers..

[hw100sniper 2]

You need to take your Fac with you LG so the shop can check how much your allowed to buy then they will mark on your certificate the amount you buy and some shops even write what make of ammo you buy.The police wouldnt really know what you were shooting with the ammo any way.Hope this helps mate.

 

 

Atb Billy.

[stubby 175]

when you get your visit prior to recieving your FAC, your fao will tell you how much ammo you can buy and hold

it'll be something like buy 500 hold 750 or could be higher, he'll indicate it can be expanding ammo, he may also off er you buy 500, hold 750 target rounds

 

I opted just for expanding, did'nt see the point on holding target rounds when I dont shoot targets, but of course, you can zero your rifle on land that is either on your ticket (closed) or anywhere you deem safe (open)

 

ammo is cheap as chips, so you'll use you expanding ammo to zero the rifle, and that will include your "plinking"

 

the dealers will write in your certificate that you have bought 500 whatever ammo, there's no need to inform the police, my fao said, "use it or loose it" far better to run out of room on your ammo slot, than to have one or two entries by renewel time

[LordGamebore 0]

Can I still buy non-expanding if I have expanding on ticket?

Edited August 24, 2010 by LordGamebore

[AzMaN 0]

Can I still buy non-expanding if I have expanding on ticket?

 

 

yes but you wont be alowed to hunt with it.

[willum 89]

also just as a point of interest for some of you that may not know .if you only have a small amount of ammo granted by your f/o you can go into 1 shop and buy your quota go out shoot it and return in the same day to the same shop and purchase your quota again say you can hold 200 but only buy 100 not likely but happens. you go out plink 50 send 50 on zeroing on diff ranges an then shoot 100 bunnys (pos) for some. and need more ammo for a night out that night. like i say prob usless info but there you go and that came from my f/o

[stubby 175]

also just as a point of interest for some of you that may not know .if you only have a small amount of ammo granted by your f/o you can go into 1 shop and buy your quota go out shoot it and return in the same day to the same shop and purchase your quota again say you can hold 200 but only buy 100 not likely but happens. you go out plink 50 send 50 on zeroing on diff ranges an then shoot 100 bunnys (pos) for some. and need more ammo for a night out that night. like i say prob usless info but there you go and that came from my f/o

 

maybe different rules in different regions, mine told me I could purchase my limit (500) every day of the week, if I was using that much (not likely) as long as I did'nt go over my holding ammount of 750, but he commented that you could'ent buy over your quoter in the same 24hrs, even if you had used it all

[HUnter_zero 58]

1) When you purchase rifle ammo, say for a .22RF, does the gunshop owner/employee wrtie the ammount purchased on your FAC, or/and do you have to notify the police of your purchase?

 

2)I'm still waiting on my FAC, however when I do get it I'll want to do a fair ammount of target work to become proficient before moving onto living quarry. Someone has told me that any kind of plinking/target shooting on land, other than for zeroing, is a big no

 

 

1) Yes the RFD will enter the amount of ammo purchased on to your FAC but no you do not inform the police of the purchase.

 

2) Your friend is correct; You will have been granted an FAC for a specific purpose, or several purposes, for example "lawful shooting of vermin and target shooting on HO approved ranges". Obviously you are 101% correct, you need to practice with your rifle before use on live quarry. In reality, you are zeroing and not target shooting in the true meaning of "competition shooting". I am a member of a rifle range, yet my rifles are not registered for target shooting, when at the range I am zeroing! If I set up a load of clays/cans or zeroing targets in a field and spend an afternoon zeroing my .22rf, I am not target shooting, I am zeroing.

 

John

Edited August 25, 2010 by HUnter_zero

[LordGamebore 0]

Thanks for clearing that up, lads. On my application though, do I put vermin control and zeroing?

 

Cheers

[matt_hooks 188]

What's your region mate? You definitely need to put zeroing down as a reason to hold, though most police forces that I know put it on automatically anyway. As for pest control, some forces will give individual species that you are entitled to shoot with it (more so with larger calibres, but some will do it with .22 too) whereas others will condition it for "all legal quarry".

 

Mine came conditioned for pest control, shooting any legal quarry and also zeroing/target practice. That means that on my FAC I can use it for competition shooting. The only thing to be careful of is that expanding ammunition is conditioned for pest control/game only. Some interpret this to mean that you can't use it for any other purpose, so you can't use your hunting round for competition shooting. I don't have access to a HO approved range at the mo, so it's not an issue for me, but it's a catch to look out for!

[LordGamebore 0]

What's your region mate? You definitely need to put zeroing down as a reason to hold, though most police forces that I know put it on automatically anyway. As for pest control, some forces will give individual species that you are entitled to shoot with it (more so with larger calibres, but some will do it with .22 too) whereas others will condition it for "all legal quarry".

 

Mine came conditioned for pest control, shooting any legal quarry and also zeroing/target practice. That means that on my FAC I can use it for competition shooting. The only thing to be careful of is that expanding ammunition is conditioned for pest control/game only. Some interpret this to mean that you can't use it for any other purpose, so you can't use your hunting round for competition shooting. I don't have access to a HO approved range at the mo, so it's not an issue for me, but it's a catch to look out for!

 

Hi MH. I've put down zeroing just to be on the safe side lol. When it comes to the moderator, do I just put rifle with moderator next to .22RF, or do I need to fill out a new slot and reason for owning.

 

Cheers

[SportingShooter 0]

Can I still buy non-expanding if I have expanding on ticket?

 

 

yes but you wont be alowed to hunt with it.

 

Not so with Vermin, the only Act which stipulates that expanding ammunition is used is the Deer Act.

 

The reason we are permitted to own and use expanding ammunition is for "Humane Dispatch" of animals (can't think of the Act), as its use was outlawed originally, then they realised that it contradicted the Deer Act and so allow it for "Humane Despatch".

 

However, if you feel so inclined to shoot a Rabbit with non-expanding ammunition, so be it, as far as I'm aware, there is no legislation to state that you cannot shoot a Rabbit with non-expanding heads, like there is with Deer. Only thing I can think of is animal welfare legislation for non-humane despatch but it depends on where you shoot it I suppose, a head shot is going to make little or no difference

 

SS

[LordGamebore 0]

Some of the target stuff can be really accurate when shooting over longer distances, if it's a headshot then it's still humane.

[willum 89]

hi stubby maybe so for different regions im still east anglia mate . norfolk to be precise and my f/o told us that we can go buy 200 rounds go shoot them and return the same day and same shop to purchase another 200 which we have done on a number of times and the shop owner has said this to be true aswell. now going to hand my ticket in for variation for either .17 hmr or a 22 hornet ? cant decide which 1 yet. atb willum

[HUnter_zero 58]

Thanks for clearing that up, lads. On my application though, do I put vermin control and zeroing?

 

Cheers

 

 

No need, "zeroing" is not a legal reason to hold a firearm.

 

John