dying poults

[markyboy 0]

guys we have a prob at our shoot,we have been finding dead or dying poults that have clear liquid coming from there mouth that smells awful,and they are all painfully thin,we got our birds the start of june and all was well then we got some bin end bird that hadnt feathered well or grown that well that we released 3 wks later. these batch were not treated for gapes as the first 900 were,we only got a 100 of these bin end birds. and all the dying ones are at the same pen we released them at. some of the dead bird are well feathered and a good size but all very thin. what can this be???

[danw 1,748]

It could be one of a number I should get some to a vets for a pm as soon as possible for now isolate the ill pen visit it last and clean boots both before and after visiting any diagnosis over the internet will be a guess and you could waste both time and money by using the wrong medication

[CarraghsGem 92]

coccidiosis????

 

do they hunch up like this prior to death?

[Lab 10,979]

guys we have a prob at our shoot,we have been finding dead or dying poults that have clear liquid coming from there mouth that smells awful,and they are all painfully thin,we got our birds the start of june and all was well then we got some bin end bird that hadnt feathered well or grown that well that we released 3 wks later. these batch were not treated for gapes as the first 900 were,we only got a 100 of these bin end birds. and all the dying ones are at the same pen we released them at. some of the dead bird are well feathered and a good size but all very thin. what can this be???

Its completely up to you to go to the vet but it will cost you 50 pound a bird to get an autopsy and i could guess that the results would come back as inconclusive with HEX, COXI and TRIKI because they never can get it right.

Sounds like they have gapes too me which is easy spotted with the birds making a "sneezing" sort of sound and some of the worst affected will be standing still looking they are gasping.

Over this period of bad weather every person who has birds in there pen should have an anti-biotic like Aueromycin or Tetsol to ease the birds over the worst of the weather. Expensive stuff to buy but whan you add up the amount of bird loses then you will have wished you had used it.

[danw 1,748]

guys we have a prob at our shoot,we have been finding dead or dying poults that have clear liquid coming from there mouth that smells awful,and they are all painfully thin,we got our birds the start of june and all was well then we got some bin end bird that hadnt feathered well or grown that well that we released 3 wks later. these batch were not treated for gapes as the first 900 were,we only got a 100 of these bin end birds. and all the dying ones are at the same pen we released them at. some of the dead bird are well feathered and a good size but all very thin. what can this be???

Its completely up to you to go to the vet but it will cost you 50 pound a bird to get an autopsy and i could guess that the results would come back as inconclusive with HEX, COXI and TRIKI because they never can get it right.

Sounds like they have gapes too me which is easy spotted with the birds making a "sneezing" sort of sound and some of the worst affected will be standing still looking they are gasping.

Over this period of bad weather every person who has birds in there pen should have an anti-biotic like Aueromycin or Tetsol to ease the birds over the worst of the weather. Expensive stuff to buy but whan you add up the amount of bird loses then you will have wished you had used it.

 

I guess I am lucky down here I use http://www.gameconsultancy.co.uk/ they don't often get it wrong

[Lab 10,979]

guys we have a prob at our shoot,we have been finding dead or dying poults that have clear liquid coming from there mouth that smells awful,and they are all painfully thin,we got our birds the start of june and all was well then we got some bin end bird that hadnt feathered well or grown that well that we released 3 wks later. these batch were not treated for gapes as the first 900 were,we only got a 100 of these bin end birds. and all the dying ones are at the same pen we released them at. some of the dead bird are well feathered and a good size but all very thin. what can this be???

Its completely up to you to go to the vet but it will cost you 50 pound a bird to get an autopsy and i could guess that the results would come back as inconclusive with HEX, COXI and TRIKI because they never can get it right.

Sounds like they have gapes too me which is easy spotted with the birds making a "sneezing" sort of sound and some of the worst affected will be standing still looking they are gasping.

Over this period of bad weather every person who has birds in there pen should have an anti-biotic like Aueromycin or Tetsol to ease the birds over the worst of the weather. Expensive stuff to buy but whan you add up the amount of bird loses then you will have wished you had used it.

 

I guess I am lucky down here I use http://www.gameconsultancy.co.uk/ they don't often get it wrong

Glad you've got such a source you can rely on mate. I gave up years ago going to the vet' college up here as they were useless. Took them about 4 days to let you know what the problem was and as you know by that stage its far to late!!

How much does that place you use charge?

[danw 1,748]

I honestly don't know how much they charge as we have an account and it is sent straight to the estate office. if I ask for a pm they get you to take birds in within 2 hours of your call and they pm then as you watch they even have their microscope wired up to a telly in the viewing area so you can see what they find, it all means that within 4 hours of my call I can have the meds in the header tank.

As you say I am just lucky to have that right on my doorstep.

[markyboy 0]

coccidiosis????

 

do they hunch up like this prior to death?

 

 

i have noticed a few like this an go to chase them to get them moving and they dont budge.chaped a few over the head last night. looks grim. we onlt put 900 birds down and this pen houses 600

[CarraghsGem 92]

http://www.irishfowl.com/poultry-sickness.php

 

see if this is any help!!

[danw 1,748]

Hexamita,

Primary symptoms are listlessness and foamy or watery diarrhea with rapid weight loss due to the dehydrating effect. Birds often huddle together near the heat source and cry or "chirp" constantly as though in pain. Convulsions due to lowered blood sugar levels shortly precede death. Affected birds suffer losses in weight and survivors remain stunted.

Trichomoniasis,

The disease course is rapid. The first lesions appear as small, yellowish areas on the oral mucosa. They grow rapidly and coalesce to form masses that frequently completely block the esophagus and may prevent the bird from closing its mouth. Much fluid may accumulate in the mouth. There is a watery ocular discharge and, in more advanced stages, exudate about the eyes that may result in blindness. Birds lose weight rapidly, become weak and listless, and sometimes die within 8-10 days.

[burnie69 376]

Sounds like cocci to me but it should of been spotted sooner.Most cases you can tell if a bird is ill by the colour of its dropping this will show 2-3 days before birds start going down hill.Hope you get em treated one thing to remember is when birds become ill 9 times out of 10 they'll get a secondary infection i.e if you've got cocci bad your birds will get hexamita thats what i find anyway.

[Guest ragumup]

Got a new resistant strain of cocci this year that caught me out bay-cox does f**k all to it, had to get amprolium which is harder to get

[burnie69 376]

Rags a big game farmer i know had to do the same

[Guest ragumup]

burnie its been shit time letting them out worked but now iv got to try and get them on the whistle now they are wandering everywhere

[DOOZER 0]

Had a lot of truoble with cocci and tryco this year, was given uncle teds and bay cox, but still not completely cured, any other ideas as to what else to use?