Scope for new shooter

[BILLROBO 0]

Hi All.

 

I am posting this thread for a friend,

 

He is new to riffle shooting, as am I, he would like to know the answer to some questions if you can help please,

For Robs first gun he is looking to buy a CZ American .22LR. but does not know what scope to chose, he would appriciate as much help as possible to aviod making to many mistakes.

Rob has give me a list of what he would be using the gun/scope combination for, and a buget of around £200-but could push to £250.

Things Rob is using gun for would be:

• To fit a .22LR rimfire 16" barrel
• Shooting distances 40- yrds
• lots of lamping
• Some dawn/dusk shooting
• Needs not to fine of reticule but one that doesn`t blot out target at distances.
• If needed to take a quick shot- dont want to spend time setting dials before taking shot
• Not to heavy

Would parllex adjustment affect choice

 

 

 

Thanks in advance for your kind replies

Bill

Edited August 22, 2010 by BILLROBO

[danebrewer10 6]

asa I always say, quality is paramount in a scope, as though you think youi'll be getting a bargain with a feature filled scope at alow price, you'll regret it in the future.... I did. as the budget is fairly low, I'd recomment a look at Leupold or Meopta I don't really know of any others in tha price bracket I can recommend, Burris I have heard, especially in the schope designed for the Sako Quad is crap, also steer away from airgun scopes as I said, as they look good, but don't really perform.... also, to get quality at a reasonable price, if he's willing, take a look at the second hand scopes, you might be able to pick up a bargain german scope....

you will get better quality glass with a fixed power scope at the same price as a variable, I have a fixed 6x42 S&B hungarian on my HMR, and I can't honestly say I miss having a variable, on my air rifle I mostly left it at 6x, and only lowered the mag for shooting indoors at very close ranges or squirrels, so a fixed 6 will probably do him fine.... as for weight, most scopes are made from aluninium, so unless it's a "see-the-other-side-of-the-universe" 34mm massive target scope then it won't be an issue, as the rimmy is pretty lightweight anyway

 

for reticles, I love the No4 reticule, the one with the heavy posts at 3,6 and 9 o'clock, the 30/30 reticule with the posts at 12 o'clock as well for me at least tend to block out the view and it seems cluttered.... you are unlikley to find a scope with good quality glass and a mil dot reticule, and definitely not in a fixed power scope, however the mil dot provides hold points for usung sub sonic ammo which has quite a rainbow trajectory, but it does rely on you accurately estimating the range, so it's your call, personally I'd ditch the features and concentrate on quality first

 

if he might be prepared to consider the switch to a HMR, then hell get the benefit of a very flat trajectory, and all but remove the need for holding over or under for different ranges....

 

hope that helped a bit, an it wasn't too confusing!

 

DB

[jamie g 17]

mtc 3x12x44 with german 4a ret with ir dot. ideal for rabbits at that range good mag. and good under the lamp for rimmy ranges

Edited August 27, 2010 by jamie g

[coldweld 65]

For what your mate wants any chinese scope will be ok ! I had a simmonds on my 22rf for ages easily shot out to 100m even when lamping so don't go mad.

[trooperman 73]

hi would agree with some answers but you must remember you only get what you pay for ,,there is plenty of good scopes on the market some beter for day use some ok at night but if lamping is going to be the mainstay of the shooting you do need good glass the Burris made for the quad is not made by Burris but they do allow there name on the tube it is made in some far of country,,i have an American Burris and it is very very good bright at night and during the day easy as clear as my Leupolds if your mate has already bought his rifle he should try and save a bit more for a good second hand name brand or if he has not bought the rifle yet buy a good used CZ he still wont go wrong with it and put the rest of his cash to a good scope remember there is no substitute for good glass but modern technology is very good and you can get a good deal scope wise from the comercial market.

 

paul

[Deker 3,478]

40- yards on a .22lr...,lets get realistic here.

 

The .22lr has no recoil to talk of, any scope will do, absolutely no need to spend loads of money, my rimfires all have Hawke or JSR scopes, they all work and they hit things.

 

Dusk and dawn only last so long and if the lamp is any good the scope is irrelevant! I struggle with comments about needing good optics for lamping, you don't, you just need a lamp that works!

 

If you have the money and want to push the boat out then fine, but you are not talking about a 500 yard tool with heavy recoil here.

Edited August 25, 2010 by Deker

[andyfr1968 772]

40- yards on a .22lr...,lets get realistic here.

 

The .22lr has no recoil to talk of, any scope will do, absolutely no need to spend loads of money, my rimfires all have Hawke or JSR scopes, they all work and they hit things.

 

Dusk and dawn only last so long and if the lamp is any good the scope is irrelevant! I struggle with comments about needing good optics for lamping, you don't, you just need a lamp that works!

 

If you have the money and want to push the boat out then fine, but you are not talking about a 500 yard tool with heavy recoil here.

 

That's one of the most sensible replys I've ever read to a question like that....

[Jos Mur 0]

40- yards on a .22lr...,lets get realistic here.

 

The .22lr has no recoil to talk of, any scope will do, absolutely no need to spend loads of money, my rimfires all have Hawke or JSR scopes, they all work and they hit things.

 

Dusk and dawn only last so long and if the lamp is any good the scope is irrelevant! I struggle with comments about needing good optics for lamping, you don't, you just need a lamp that works!

 

If you have the money and want to push the boat out then fine, but you are not talking about a 500 yard tool with heavy recoil here.

 

I totally agree

Jos

[basinator 0]

40- yards on a .22lr...,lets get realistic here.

 

The .22lr has no recoil to talk of, any scope will do, absolutely no need to spend loads of money, my rimfires all have Hawke or JSR scopes, they all work and they hit things.

 

Dusk and dawn only last so long and if the lamp is any good the scope is irrelevant! I struggle with comments about needing good optics for lamping, you don't, you just need a lamp that works!

 

If you have the money and want to push the boat out then fine, but you are not talking about a 500 yard tool with heavy recoil here.

couldnt agree more got a hawk on mine and its all you need get the right lamp and your away,never had any trouble....dont need to spend loads on a rimmy scope.