dirty twister 31 Posted August 20, 2010 Report Share Posted August 20, 2010 one hell of an angry bull :crazy: I liked him grabbing its tail as well :aggressive: What the fcuk did he think he was gonna do :laugh: Quote Link to post Share on other sites
scothunter 12,609 Posted August 20, 2010 Author Report Share Posted August 20, 2010 glad he is ok mate.but i can call what i like just cause i hunt dont mean i have to support every form of sport involving animals.i dont agree with bull fighting but im not spanish and thats their tradition.same as i dont believe in whale hunting or shooting tigers does that make me a a anti or some kind of tree hugger.thats just ridiculous. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
scothunter 12,609 Posted August 20, 2010 Author Report Share Posted August 20, 2010 one hell of an angry bull :crazy: I liked him grabbing its tail as well :aggressive: What the fcuk did he think he was gonna do :laugh: lol yea i know what a tit did he think he was gonna hold it back Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Buttermilk Posted August 20, 2010 Report Share Posted August 20, 2010 glad he is ok mate.but i can call what i like just cause i hunt dont mean i have to support every form of sport involving animals.i dont agree with bull fighting but im not spanish and thats their tradition.same as i dont believe in whale hunting or shooting tigers does that make me a a anti or some kind of tree hugger.thats just ridiculous. Well said...I agree with you totally. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
scothunter 12,609 Posted August 20, 2010 Author Report Share Posted August 20, 2010 just read in the paper that the bull jumped after seeing a lad in an england top cause it was red.there a picture of the lad but he got away lol mind you i dunno how much truth is in that i mean there were otheres wearing red clothing aswell,but it was heading towards him. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
slingshot82 32 Posted August 20, 2010 Report Share Posted August 20, 2010 Good stuff I dont like the idea of bull fighting, so the spectators deserved it! Kyle Another 'my sport is better than your sport' idiot. At least they can hold on to their tradditions. I bet you are against fox hunting as well! Its hardly sport! Tormenting the f**k out of a bull weighing near a ton, then when things turn bad they destroy it! And for your information Im totally for fox hunting, you :wankerzo4: Kyle Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Flamin'Nora! 50 Posted August 20, 2010 Report Share Posted August 20, 2010 fox hunting and bull fighting should not even be put in the same sentence together after all its not as if fox hunting was ever conducted in a sealed off arena with the fox being goaded by men on the ground, or stabbed with sharp knifes in its neck and spine by a mounted huntsman. Foxes were traditionally hunted in their own home territory and afforded the chance to outrun or outwit their pursuers. A bull in a ring doesnt get that chance. Its fates sealed the moment it enters the ring. The antis love it when foxhunting, coursing, bull fighting etc all get lumped in together though IMO theres a world of difference between a fox being hunted in his own countryside or a hare being coursed by a dog in the field or on the fen its known its whole life, to a bull being tortured by humans in the name of entertainment. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
slingshot82 32 Posted August 20, 2010 Report Share Posted August 20, 2010 fox hunting and bull fighting should not even be put in the same sentence together after all its not as if fox hunting was ever conducted in a sealed off arena with the fox being goaded by men on the ground, or stabbed with sharp knifes in its neck and spine by a mounted huntsman. Foxes were traditionally hunted in their own home territory and afforded the chance to outrun or outwit their pursuers. A bull in a ring doesnt get that chance. Its fates sealed the moment it enters the ring. The antis love it when foxhunting, coursing, bull fighting etc all get lumped in together though IMO theres a world of difference between a fox being hunted in his own countryside or a hare being coursed by a dog in the field or on the fen its known its whole life, to a bull being tortured by humans in the name of entertainment. Totally agree . Well said mate Kyle Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Buttermilk Posted August 20, 2010 Report Share Posted August 20, 2010 fox hunting and bull fighting should not even be put in the same sentence together after all its not as if fox hunting was ever conducted in a sealed off arena with the fox being goaded by men on the ground, or stabbed with sharp knifes in its neck and spine by a mounted huntsman. Foxes were traditionally hunted in their own home territory and afforded the chance to outrun or outwit their pursuers. A bull in a ring doesnt get that chance. Its fates sealed the moment it enters the ring. The antis love it when foxhunting, coursing, bull fighting etc all get lumped in together though IMO theres a world of difference between a fox being hunted in his own countryside or a hare being coursed by a dog in the field or on the fen its known its whole life, to a bull being tortured by humans in the name of entertainment. Totally agree . Well said mate Kyle Ditto. Very eloquently put. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
scothunter 12,609 Posted August 20, 2010 Author Report Share Posted August 20, 2010 i didnt really know much about it,but there was a cpl on here opened my eyes about it.i just thought it was man against bull,but learned that they slash the bulls muscles in its neck so it can barely lift its head.im not shouting for it to be banned by any means,just wouldnt watch something like that and i was always told to dispatch all animals as quickly and as humanely as possible.and yea the fox can get away to fight another day,well win lose or draw the bull is killed after its been demented to the point of going mad. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Richie10 345 Posted August 20, 2010 Report Share Posted August 20, 2010 If you don't know what happens how can you say it's cruel? People say hares and foxes are tormented until killed just depends which angle you look at it. Bulls are eaten after killed and shown their skills in the ring, or should they can be lined up to be killed? They weaken the neck muscle to allow the head to drop slightly for the matador to deliver the killing blow. Assuming is the what the anti's do, think it's cruel before the know what actually happens. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Malt 379 Posted August 20, 2010 Report Share Posted August 20, 2010 Been here before, several times.... I'll just say that I hope the young lad makes a speedy recovery. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
scothunter 12,609 Posted August 20, 2010 Author Report Share Posted August 20, 2010 If you don't know what happens how can you say it's cruel? People say hares and foxes are tormented until killed just depends which angle you look at it. Bulls are eaten after killed and shown their skills in the ring, or should they can be lined up to be killed? They weaken the neck muscle to allow the head to drop slightly for the matador to deliver the killing blow. Assuming is the what the anti's do, think it's cruel before the know what actually happens. never mentioned the word cruel,but seeing as you brought it up and after learning the process from lads on here,id say it was cruel.i was killer in a slaughter house when i was younger and all beasts were dispatched immediaetly and as humanely as possible.but like i said im not getting involved in a major argument and im not shouting for it to be banned.who am i to dictate what the spanish do its just my opinion mate Quote Link to post Share on other sites
scothunter 12,609 Posted August 20, 2010 Author Report Share Posted August 20, 2010 Been here before, several times.... I'll just say that I hope the young lad makes a speedy recovery. thats all that matters malt the lad gets well. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Flamin'Nora! 50 Posted August 20, 2010 Report Share Posted August 20, 2010 Ive never seen it in real life, wouldnt want to either, but have watched enough videos etc on the net to educate myself. All you need is eyes in your head to see that the bull is not in an open field and therefore cannot escape (unless it manages to leap the fence into the crowd like in this news story) the bull is not killed quickly or humanely, it is instead killed slowly over 3 levels, the first weakens the bulls neck muscles and prevents it defending itself properly, the second is all about the matadors making passes to tire the bull and his gradual blood loss also weakens him, then the spears (cant remember what they are called) are fired into his neck, more passes are made until the bull is finally killed with a sword. It is ritualised slaughter to appease a crowd. Im well aware that the antis twist things to suit themselves, but can hunters really watch and support this without thinking to themselves "how unsporting"? I know theres different things done with bulls, the one where they run in the streets (have to look on wikipedia as I cant remember what its called? ) where the bull does get a chance to run more freely than he does in the arena, and without spears etc in him in fact I watched one not that long ago that I actually found I was cheering the bull on as he was giving the guys goading him a real pasting but at the end of the day, to compare it to hunting a wild animal which gets a sporting chance, is that really a fair comparison? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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