mikey2341 0 Posted August 19, 2010 Report Share Posted August 19, 2010 Hi All, My dogs getting on now (he's and I'm looking around and deciding on what to get for the next pup. I like the idea of a collie cross for the (intelligence) but am trying to find out a bit more regarding the difference (if any) that the type of collie used may have in terms of personality and trainability etc. It will live in the house and work with the ferrets, the staffy (a great bushing dog!) and also on the lamp, no long ears or red things where I go... opinions? Cheers Quote Link to post
rogue 9 Posted August 19, 2010 Report Share Posted August 19, 2010 if u can get your hands on a copy of practical lurcher breeding by plummer its got a few intresting pages on on the pro's and con of each..he says the beardie collie is the better of the two Quote Link to post
wuyang 513 Posted August 19, 2010 Report Share Posted August 19, 2010 Worked both a border collie/greyhound and a beardie/border/greyhound. The beardie/border lurcher had a very strong prey drive and was excellent at hunting up...and i can't ever remember him damaging his feet....he was a very laid back dog at home..but really turned it on in the field. He had fantastic strike, was crazy for hunting foxes (something ive never bothered with), he was a very single minded dog. The collie greyhound was more inclined to training,.....quite often injured her feet and didn't hunt a field no where near as good as the beardie/border. The border lurcher would put the brakes on sooner when chasing towards a hedgerow (which i don't mind, but i know some people don't like). If i was to have a out and out hunter my beardie/border was better, but saying all that the best hunting dog i owned was a pure border collie bitch, but she obviously lacked speed. Quote Link to post
whin 463 Posted August 20, 2010 Report Share Posted August 20, 2010 best dogs ive saw had beardie real working ones but some not for the feint hearted ,im sure d slieghts katir kizzy my luke etc all had abit and they had dard blood racing grews made them real triers till the day they were put to sleep , but on the other hand very hard to switch of when not working so you have to be able to train adog to do it justice Quote Link to post
runforyourlife 361 Posted August 20, 2010 Report Share Posted August 20, 2010 I have had both, i now just have the beardie cross. For starters the beardie was bred to move the stubburn monutain sheep that the border couldnt. So thats an indication straight away... Like said above, the prey drive of a breadie is second to none mate.... And the feet are tight as hell...they are nowhere near as skitty as the border, and dont seem to poccess a nasty bone in them towards other dogs or people... Training wise, it has to be one of the easiest breeds there are.. house train, didnt even have to do it, he did it himself!!(never had shit in his dog run!! holds it till he is let out, and also well away from his or our house!!) They are set in there ways, with things like, if you take a toy away, they will want it back. They are great at nicking stuff, and so so loving... Yet meet a charlie, and well...... Quote Link to post
Stabs 3 Posted August 20, 2010 Report Share Posted August 20, 2010 Very interesting post. I've got shag all experience with border crosses so I'll follow this thread keenly. Quote Link to post
runforyourlife 361 Posted August 20, 2010 Report Share Posted August 20, 2010 my 1st lurcher when i was young was a borderx.. stood 25" and made a hell of a rabbit dog... Just was a little backward, if you know what i mean.. my sister had hers put to sleep last week, it was again abit bramy, and had some very strange habits.. set in its ways so to speak... Quote Link to post
Stabs 3 Posted August 20, 2010 Report Share Posted August 20, 2010 my 1st lurcher when i was young was a borderx.. stood 25" and made a hell of a rabbit dog... Just was a little backward, if you know what i mean.. my sister had hers put to sleep last week, it was again abit bramy, and had some very strange habits.. set in its ways so to speak... Were they both first cross RFYL? Quote Link to post
runforyourlife 361 Posted August 20, 2010 Report Share Posted August 20, 2010 mine was yes, but didnt look like one, was more to the greyhound... not into the collie looking ones myself, like the hancocks and stuff. my sisters was colliegrey x grey... Quote Link to post
bird 9,986 Posted August 20, 2010 Report Share Posted August 20, 2010 my 1st lurcher when i was young was a borderx.. stood 25" and made a hell of a rabbit dog... Just was a little backward, if you know what i mean.. my sister had hers put to sleep last week, it was again abit bramy, and had some very strange habits.. set in its ways so to speak... my mate had a cracker (b/b(1/4) x(3/4) grey) from hancock, big strong dog 27in 70lb great on fox, and good on rabbits for a big dog. its temp was alot differnt to a straight borderxgrey. i think more laid back temp, where border x greys can be more robotic like in there ways. if you were going for a colliex ,(1/4) b/b make a good choise for alrounder type lurcher Quote Link to post
Stabs 3 Posted August 20, 2010 Report Share Posted August 20, 2010 mine was yes, but didnt look like one, was more to the greyhound... not into the collie looking ones myself, like the hancocks and stuff. my sisters was colliegrey x grey... How'd they compare against each other RFYL? Were they similar? Quote Link to post
runforyourlife 361 Posted August 20, 2010 Report Share Posted August 20, 2010 mine was yes, but didnt look like one, was more to the greyhound... not into the collie looking ones myself, like the hancocks and stuff. my sisters was colliegrey x grey... How'd they compare against each other RFYL? Were they similar? erm, difficult to say, as i obviously worked mine alot more than my sister did, and also on different stuff... In and around the house, yeah, thier mannorisums were quite similar.. Quote Link to post
runforyourlife 361 Posted August 20, 2010 Report Share Posted August 20, 2010 my 1st lurcher when i was young was a borderx.. stood 25" and made a hell of a rabbit dog... Just was a little backward, if you know what i mean.. my sister had hers put to sleep last week, it was again abit bramy, and had some very strange habits.. set in its ways so to speak... my mate had a cracker (b/b(1/4) x(3/4) grey) from hancock, big strong dog 27in 70lb great on fox, and good on rabbits for a big dog. its temp was alot differnt to a straight borderxgrey. i think more laid back temp, where border x greys can be more robotic like in there ways. if you were going for a colliex ,(1/4) b/b make a good choise for alrounder type lurcher Thats a bloody big dog... I personally wouldnt want one that size, especially at 70lbs... probarbly get no where near a hare(preban).. And my dog breadie weighs 40lbs and makes light work of charlies(preban) no need for all that weight..... Quote Link to post
Stabs 3 Posted August 20, 2010 Report Share Posted August 20, 2010 The lad in the foreground is currently running 73lb fit and doesn't have too much problem getting up behind a hare. Hares aren't his thing though but we do take a few when the mood takes us. We're overrun with them here. Quote Link to post
doga 50 Posted August 20, 2010 Report Share Posted August 20, 2010 ive had both beardie and border and found them to be good honest type animals but as with every type of lurcher you get good and bad we all know. ive found borders easier round the home but i think beardies have the edge on the hunting side ,the down side to beardies are that keeping them pend up is a big mistake and can take forever to come into their own maturity wise wich for a lot of lads would be unbearable. the bitch ive got now is a border first cross but is a good graftin bitch on anything i put her to. Quote Link to post
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