Wxm 1,638 Posted August 16, 2010 Report Share Posted August 16, 2010 hi all just wondering what everyone thinks is the reason behind lurchers yapping / barking when chasing its givin quarry?. and i was wondering how you would go about stopping this or how you did stop it. i maybe wrong in thinking but i belive it may be started with starting pups off too young .. letting them run befor they can walk sort of thing. how i would try to prevent this would be to leave the dog off for a while then start again from scratch .. give it a few kills and as many easy slips as i could. IMO would like to hear other ideas and please let me know if im wrong in any way Quote Link to post
desertdog 149 Posted August 17, 2010 Report Share Posted August 17, 2010 its hard to cure, get up on your quarry, yes easy kills may help, but its not guaranteed, how old are dogs in question?, it does,nt help hunting young dogs with terriers, try holding them back, and then try when they a bit older, whats the breeding?and what are you running them at?. Quote Link to post
Casso 1,261 Posted August 17, 2010 Report Share Posted August 17, 2010 hi all just wondering what everyone thinks is the reason behind lurchers yapping / barking when chasing its givin quarry?. and i was wondering how you would go about stopping this or how you did stop it. i maybe wrong in thinking but i belive it may be started with starting pups off too young .. letting them run befor they can walk sort of thing. how i would try to prevent this would be to leave the dog off for a while then start again from scratch .. give it a few kills and as many easy slips as i could. IMO would like to hear other ideas and please let me know if im wrong in any way If its in them its in them, might only come out in tight situations , if the dog is sound otherwise, ignore it or switch your hearing aid off,, Quote Link to post
ferreter.al 22 Posted August 17, 2010 Report Share Posted August 17, 2010 i dont think your far wrong mate,starting them too young is usually the cause when they cant catch stuff and get frustrated and yap and the ideas you have may help to stop it all id say is rest it up and then start again and give it squatters that are way out from the setts is all you can do.mates got a whippet that screams after quarry,he didnt particularly start it too early,just does it,can be a problem in whippets so im told but as i dont use them i wouldnt know.atvb Quote Link to post
Casso 1,261 Posted August 17, 2010 Report Share Posted August 17, 2010 hi all just wondering what everyone thinks is the reason behind lurchers yapping / barking when chasing its givin quarry?. and i was wondering how you would go about stopping this or how you did stop it. i maybe wrong in thinking but i belive it may be started with starting pups off too young .. letting them run befor they can walk sort of thing. how i would try to prevent this would be to leave the dog off for a while then start again from scratch .. give it a few kills and as many easy slips as i could. IMO would like to hear other ideas and please let me know if im wrong in any way Cant see how leaving him off will make one jot of difference, the only reason he'd yap is because he's not catching easy , the more work he'll get , the better he'll get and the easier he'll catch, Quote Link to post
Wxm 1,638 Posted August 17, 2010 Author Report Share Posted August 17, 2010 its hard to cure, get up on your quarry, yes easy kills may help, but its not guaranteed, how old are dogs in question?, it does,nt help hunting young dogs with terriers, try holding them back, and then try when they a bit older, whats the breeding?and what are you running them at?. thers no situation at the min its just for future referance and just for youngun's to see (mind im only 23 lol), it may help them as when i started hunting and that at around 13 / 14 i bought a dog already trained so really did'nt have to train much with her. (just to add more experiance really) and when i did get my own dog to train i was left in the same situation that i think some people are in, i started the pup off too early (approx 5 or 6 months) and it started yapping. as i had no real help or good advise about how to correct this. .. the only advise was to get rid as theres nothing i can do with the pup to stop it yapping. with being at that age everything i heard must have been [bANNED TEXT] so the pup was sold. Stabba put up a topic about the amount of young dogs for sale .. and i do belive this is one of the reasons why some come up for sale. people think its the end when its yapping behind its quarry ... but with the [bANNED TEXT] advise it may help a few that listen to try some methods to correct this. As just think when you sell this 100% working dog to someone, they'll not be very happy that they aint been told the whole story. so when it starts yapping or jacking .. you'll see it in the for sale section again. *just my thoughts Quote Link to post
scent 509 Posted August 17, 2010 Report Share Posted August 17, 2010 had a lurcher would take foxes doubled up but when slipped on his own he yapped .He didnt stay in my kennells very long after he started yapping.It was obvious he didnt like sharp teeth lol Quote Link to post
Wxm 1,638 Posted August 17, 2010 Author Report Share Posted August 17, 2010 had a lurcher would take foxes doubled up but when slipped on his own he yapped .He didnt stay in my kennells very long after he started yapping.It was obvious he didnt like sharp teeth lol and this is what i mean theres not alot really i think you can do if it scared on its own .. did you bring it up from a pup or buy it in workin .. if you dont mind me askin Quote Link to post
scent 509 Posted August 17, 2010 Report Share Posted August 17, 2010 had a lurcher would take foxes doubled up but when slipped on his own he yapped .He didnt stay in my kennells very long after he started yapping.It was obvious he didnt like sharp teeth lol and this is what i mean theres not alot really i think you can do if it scared on its own .. did you bring it up from a pup or buy it in workin .. if you dont mind me askin i bought him at 13 months and took my time with him when it came to foxes .He was never over worked on them or worked sore .Something just changed one night when i had him out lamping but i left him a while and didnt lamp him for a few weeks but when i went out again i got the same result Quote Link to post
x38 179 Posted August 17, 2010 Report Share Posted August 17, 2010 yap yap .........yap yap yap.........its so you no where it is ....:11: ....ihad a dog that did it on deer but not on rabbits it had to go.. and i did not hide the fact it did ...your not going to stop it. in the older dogs but 50/50.in a pup......good look ( deer pre ban of corse) Quote Link to post
Irish Lurcher 1,013 Posted August 17, 2010 Report Share Posted August 17, 2010 I would concur with most of the sentiments regarding this thread. Some years ago I gave a good working dog to my sons friend, the dog was taking bunnies and retrieving to hand, some months later I came across the very same dog and he was yapping like a cnut, I then found out that the young lad was letting him off on big ears and the poor dog was so frustrated at getting nowhere neat big ears that he drove him mad. So it can also happen in older dogs, worth bearing in mind. Quote Link to post
Guest fence_hopper Posted August 17, 2010 Report Share Posted August 17, 2010 simple cure a bullet Quote Link to post
Malt 379 Posted August 17, 2010 Report Share Posted August 17, 2010 simple cure a bullet I disagree with you on this one pal, in certain situations anyway! My beddy/whippet is prone to yapping until the first catch of the night, after that he switches to silent running! Used to drive me mental at first though... Quote Link to post
x38 179 Posted August 17, 2010 Report Share Posted August 17, 2010 simple cure a bullet I disagree with you on this one pal, in certain situations anyway! My beddy/whippet is prone to yapping until the first catch of the night, after that he switches to silent running! Used to drive me mental at first though... good luck in finding the switch lol this is exitment not fructration hence stops after first run. Quote Link to post
Grinder 102 Posted August 17, 2010 Report Share Posted August 17, 2010 (edited) Wxm there is a park in gwersllt, take the young dog there... Rabbits are quite used to humans there and stay longer... You don't get easier rabbits than these and a good confidence builder for a young dog... Keep an eye out for the parky though :-) a few lads at nwtlc are big into the rabbits... Why not pick there brains at a meeting. Best of luck to you Just read your post again properly (I'm getting old) far too many start there dogs to young and end up getting rid at 9 10 month old... Let a pup be a pup... For example I was in a beer tent a few years ago at a show, a guy in his 50s wanted rid of a 6 1/2 month old bullx cos it wouldn't bail in with 3 other dogs on a fox it just stood there barking he said !!!!(he was laughed out of the beer tent) ... Luckily that pup went to a decent lad and now is doing well. Edited August 17, 2010 by Grinder Quote Link to post
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