Guest Buttermilk Posted August 16, 2010 Report Share Posted August 16, 2010 Just to add my pennies worth. It has always sickened me how many young adult or fully grown lurchers you see for sale, yes some genuine, but most whos owners just want to try something different or give up too easily. It really does boil my blood. I can't understand why people just don't research what dog they need, buy the dog, enter it properly and stick with it until its days are over. I have had a few different dogs and not one that failed me or was shit. Yes they have had set backs but you have to work through these. I can also never net my head around these hard talking machos if it dosn't make the grade it won't be in my kennel it'll get a bullet etc etc...........most of the fault in my eyes is in the owner....and only a very small percentage down to the dog. Very well said. Quote Link to post
get the beers in 1 Posted August 16, 2010 Report Share Posted August 16, 2010 this is a thing i have seen over the years . lets not forget some lads are into the dogs just to be part of the crew fact. dont give the dog a chance some dogs come on faster than others fact but its 18mths when the dog starts coming into its own , see many pups up for sale 9 mths to 12mths just started lamp will make good dog only coz the dog missed the nite before . only to be on the look out for another to be in the hands of some 1 that doesnt no . but if it was a minshaw strian the dog wouldnt ever be up for sale Quote Link to post
bird 9,861 Posted August 16, 2010 Report Share Posted August 16, 2010 this is a thing i have seen over the years . lets not forget some lads are into the dogs just to be part of the crew fact. dont give the dog a chance some dogs come on faster than others fact but its 18mths when the dog starts coming into its own , see many pups up for sale 9 mths to 12mths just started lamp will make good dog only coz the dog missed the nite before . only to be on the look out for another to be in the hands of some 1 that doesnt no . but if it was a minshaw strian the dog wouldnt ever be up for sale all types [minshaw,colliexs,bullxs,salukixs,bitsa,) there is good+crap in all of them. what you need in this game is a (big) piece LUCK, some times you pick a goodun, and some times you dont.?? you have to give a dog a good chance to prove it self, 2-3 seasons. But the problem is you have (FADS) IN THIS LURCHER GAME. today bullxs, till something else comes along.thats why you see alot of (young) dogs for sale, thank f**k the not your parents. 1 Quote Link to post
jimmy0211 2 Posted August 16, 2010 Report Share Posted August 16, 2010 Just to add my pennies worth. It has always sickened me how many young adult or fully grown lurchers you see for sale, yes some genuine, but most whos owners just want to try something different or give up too easily. It really does boil my blood. I can't understand why people just don't research what dog they need, buy the dog, enter it properly and stick with it until its days are over. I have had a few different dogs and not one that failed me or was shit. Yes they have had set backs but you have to work through these. I can also never net my head around these hard talking machos if it dosn't make the grade it won't be in my kennel it'll get a bullet etc etc...........most of the fault in my eyes is in the owner....and only a very small percentage down to the dog. from what you have said straight away i can tell that you would keep a sub standard dog! in my opinion that IS the reason why theres so much shit about and why the jackers are bred off! it isnt matcho its the RIGHT thing to do. no it isnt nice but its for the best if you cant find a pet home where you know it wont be bred off, people need to get off there high horses and consider weather they work there dogs hard or just sit on the sidelines watching and listening to there (heroes) in books or on sites like this messsaaaa sounds right to me, if something..... anything dog,gun,car or say tv isn't up to the standard i want then surely it's my decision to sell it on or in the right circumstances to give it away ..... to family,friends or whoever and in the case of a dog a suitable new home doing the job it's capable of ( but you gotta be honest with the new owner) or a pet home or they get passed around.. one mans meat is another mans poison.. AND it cost's the same to feed a good one as a bad one DEFINATELY DON'T BREED FROM SUBSTANDARD SHITE.... cos thats the very ones that get passed from pillar to post EVERYTIME. Quote Link to post
wuyang 513 Posted August 16, 2010 Report Share Posted August 16, 2010 Just to add my pennies worth. It has always sickened me how many young adult or fully grown lurchers you see for sale, yes some genuine, but most whos owners just want to try something different or give up too easily. It really does boil my blood. I can't understand why people just don't research what dog they need, buy the dog, enter it properly and stick with it until its days are over. I have had a few different dogs and not one that failed me or was shit. Yes they have had set backs but you have to work through these. I can also never net my head around these hard talking machos if it dosn't make the grade it won't be in my kennel it'll get a bullet etc etc...........most of the fault in my eyes is in the owner....and only a very small percentage down to the dog. from what you have said straight away i can tell that you would keep a sub standard dog! in my opinion that IS the reason why theres so much shit about and why the jackers are bred off! it isnt matcho its the RIGHT thing to do. no it isnt nice but its for the best if you cant find a pet home where you know it wont be bred off, people need to get off there high horses and consider weather they work there dogs hard or just sit on the sidelines watching and listening to there (heroes) in books or on sites like this messsaaaa Quote Link to post
NEWKID 27,047 Posted August 16, 2010 Report Share Posted August 16, 2010 think people just dont put enuff thought into things mate, especially breeding, but when a genuine guy gos to sell a dog for a genuine reason it gets the same looks and thoughts as others because of the messers, but i dont think taking away the for sale section would do any good because although it doesnt look it, there are genuine people on this site and hopefully some if not all the dogs for sale on here go to genuine lads. agreed guy i got my pup from here and his pups are credit to him very healthy and obviously looked after. i got my pup from here too, it's difficult to know where to look when your first starting or starting back after a long lay off like myself ,lads i used to hunt with dont anymore and to try to get into the 'click' is difficult with everyone being more wary now. I chose the x i wanted by reading info on this site and the right pup for me was advertised on here. I'm well chuffed with her and the lad i got her from was obviously a genuine lad time will tell how she turns out but i'll try my best. I agree with it being crap that people give up on a dog at the first hurdle then try to get rid on here or wherever surely if you put enough effort into the dog they'll put the effort in for you. Quote Link to post
rut 10 Posted August 16, 2010 Report Share Posted August 16, 2010 stabba have you ever selt any working dogs or any pups then Quote Link to post
Wxm 1,638 Posted August 16, 2010 Report Share Posted August 16, 2010 i think the reason lurchers are for sale between 8 - 18 months is because idots have them running them too young and the pup probs starts yappin behind the quarry or jacks because they hav'nt introduced them properly IMO I've got a 14 month old male pup that I'll be taking out this fall for his first, he's full of piss and vinegar. He has one problem that I'm not quite sure what to do about, he face barks in the kennel and I'm hoping it isn't an omen of some sort. Any suggestions? I'm hoping once he see's game and is let on that it will go away. What do you consider "introduced proper"? He's not for-sale, just been reading here and there. He was born with us and he'll be staying with us regardless but I'd like to see the barking go away. He's keen at spotting but yet to be let go, and I'm sure that alone frustrates him. He and his dam have taken two birds that happened to fly too closely over their kennel in the last couple of months. Its been a long time since I've been to any of the boards, a lot has changed. "introducing proper" i for one would not introduce a terrier to an earth unless i thought the terrier was confident in its self as the next thing you know is that the terrier wont even look at a earth. (and will be on the for sale section as unspoilt or never got around to trying). i would have thought there will be a [bANNED TEXT] time to enter a terrier .. but im sure that will come with experiance from the owner / trainer. also the same goes for lurchers you start off in stage's rabbit, hare, fox, etc (pre-ban). as many people i know start their lurchers around 6-8 months .. most just keepin them on the lead and some letting the dog have a run. but if you start a pup to eairly it may get frustrated and starts yapping. and i bet 9 out of 10 on here have poached and i cant see them keeping a dog unless it was mute. hope that makes sence as im half asleep lol 1 Quote Link to post
dpb82uk 138 Posted August 17, 2010 Report Share Posted August 17, 2010 not red all comets but i got a bich pup off er last year and its doing good now it wil not stop til it dus its pray wil run at anything i started her as erly as i cud iv got her doing the job i wunt her 2 but this wil be 1st season for her anyone welcom to see her work on your land if wont for the sight i wudnt av a dog now Quote Link to post
mad terrier 9 Posted August 17, 2010 Report Share Posted August 17, 2010 i think the reason lurchers are for sale between 8 - 18 months is because idots have them running them too young and the pup probs starts yappin behind the quarry or jacks because they hav'nt introduced them properly IMO I've got a 14 month old male pup that I'll be taking out this fall for his first, he's full of piss and vinegar. He has one problem that I'm not quite sure what to do about, he face barks in the kennel and I'm hoping it isn't an omen of some sort. Any suggestions? I'm hoping once he see's game and is let on that it will go away. What do you consider "introduced proper"? He's not for-sale, just been reading here and there. He was born with us and he'll be staying with us regardless but I'd like to see the barking go away. He's keen at spotting but yet to be let go, and I'm sure that alone frustrates him. He and his dam have taken two birds that happened to fly too closely over their kennel in the last couple of months. Its been a long time since I've been to any of the boards, a lot has changed. "introducing proper" i for one would not introduce a terrier to an earth unless i thought the terrier was confident in its self as the next thing you know is that the terrier wont even look at a earth. (and will be on the for sale section as unspoilt or never got around to trying). i would have thought there will be a [bANNED TEXT] time to enter a terrier .. but im sure that will come with experiance from the owner / trainer. also the same goes for lurchers you start off in stage's rabbit, hare, fox, etc (pre-ban). as many people i know start their lurchers around 6-8 months .. most just keepin them on the lead and some letting the dog have a run. but if you start a pup to eairly it may get frustrated and starts yapping. and i bet 9 out of 10 on here have poached and i cant see them keeping a dog unless it was mute. hope that makes sence as im half asleep lol it makes sense, on both counts, some people just dont get it though + will f**k their dogs up and move onto the next no matter what advice you give, ive a terrier bitch at the house, 12mths old, physically mature enough to go to ground, many lads would enter her now, i dont think shes ready, will enter her in a month or 2, even a years time if need be, many a good prospect is ruined by an overkeen or impatient owner. Quote Link to post
poacher3161 1,766 Posted August 17, 2010 Report Share Posted August 17, 2010 The amount of well bred pups about i still carnt get my head around why any body would still want to breed off ex track greyhound bitches:hmm: Quote Link to post
Guest Defender Poacher Posted August 17, 2010 Report Share Posted August 17, 2010 (edited) stabba have you ever selt any working dogs or any pups then or bought a dog in as an adult, let he who has not sinned cast the 1st stone!!!!!!! Edited August 17, 2010 by Defender Poacher Quote Link to post
Guest Defender Poacher Posted August 17, 2010 Report Share Posted August 17, 2010 The amount of well bred pups about i still carnt get my head around why any body would still want to breed off ex track greyhound bitches:hmm: I agree, a lot of failed dogs are bred from untested parents ie ex track greyhounds. Why take a pup from an untested grey bitch when most wouldnt take a dog from untested lurcher bitch!!!! Quote Link to post
Guest fence_hopper Posted August 17, 2010 Report Share Posted August 17, 2010 (edited) The amount of well bred pups about i still carnt get my head around why any body would still want to breed off ex track greyhound bitches:hmm: speaking for myself. i prefer to breed from a track bitch i know what i'm getting, wouldnt mind if i then used lurcher to lurcher breeding coz i know whats in them. all this deerhound greyound x collie greyound x suluki greyhound stuff aint for me to much in the mix, keep it simple imo Edited August 17, 2010 by fence_hopper Quote Link to post
blue staffy 145 Posted August 17, 2010 Report Share Posted August 17, 2010 The amount of well bred pups about i still carnt get my head around why any body would still want to breed off ex track greyhound bitches:hmm: speaking for myself. i prefer to breed from a track bitch i know what i'm getting, wouldnt mind if i then used lurcher to lurcher breeding coz i know whats in them. all this deerhound greyound x collie greyound x suluki greyhound stuff aint for me to much in the mix, keep it simple imo agree with fh if you breed from greyhound you kno what you getting , i've got 3 lurchers and i kno all the parents that they bred off , only had lurchers 14 years and at the start i bought adult dogs that were meant to be doing it all but never did in the last 10 year all my dogs have been got as pups from good freinds that i trust and have seen parents work so i kno exactly what i have Quote Link to post
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