artic 595 Posted August 16, 2010 Author Report Share Posted August 16, 2010 Read the act again. "Livestock" The definition of 'livestock' includes cattle, sheep, goats, swine, horses and poultry. Game birds are not included." If it was any of the above then yes. No mention of hares? Hare coursing is illegal as we all know, thats a different situation different act. Section 5.9 of The Hunting Act 2004. REALLY...omg i had not realised!....And there was me thinking it was rocket science If you read my post AGAIN, i did not mention hares as included as a definition of 'livestock' the hares...... or rabbits, seagulls or pink fookin pixies...anything your heart desires...if it is chased by your dog on land and you are unable to call it off and straight back to heel, your dog is classed as NOT UNDER CONTROL, therefore needs to be leashed. Oh dear.... I rest my case. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
WILF 47,351 Posted August 16, 2010 Report Share Posted August 16, 2010 Keep trying...........lol Quote Link to post Share on other sites
FoxyWarrior 17 Posted August 16, 2010 Report Share Posted August 16, 2010 Keep trying...........lol What a nasty man you are. Who do you think you are? You are a show off, who gets his kicks off here thinking you know your stuff and trying to degrade people who actually have great knowledge, understanding, and has done so much for the countryside and fieldsports in the fact. Seems there might be a little jealousy here, no no but you will deny that wont you WILF. Respect you say, well anyone would have to be silly to respect someone like you. Bet your farmer/keeper doesn't know that you have your small balls flashed oh here! See what respect you get then! Perfetic attitude, and you seem to miss the whole point of the opening post. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Lambert&Butler Posted August 16, 2010 Report Share Posted August 16, 2010 Keep trying...........lol Think i am losing the will to live Wilf.....is what i am saying really that hard to understand :wacko: Quote Link to post Share on other sites
WILF 47,351 Posted August 16, 2010 Report Share Posted August 16, 2010 (edited) Foxywoxy..... If you fancy me, just say so! Edited August 16, 2010 by WILF Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Lambert&Butler Posted August 16, 2010 Report Share Posted August 16, 2010 Keep trying...........lol What a nasty man you are. Who do you think you are? You are a show off, who gets his kicks off here thinking you know your stuff and trying to degrade people who actually have great knowledge, understanding, and has done so much for the countryside and fieldsports in the fact. Seems there might be a little jealousy here, no no but you will deny that wont you WILF. Respect you say, well anyone would have to be silly to respect someone like you. Bet your farmer/keeper doesn't know that you have your small balls flashed oh here! See what respect you get then! Perfetic attitude, and you seem to miss the whole point of the opening post. I think Wilf aimed the "keep trying" at me Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Lambert&Butler Posted August 16, 2010 Report Share Posted August 16, 2010 Artic you posted the.... http://www.naturenet.net/law/dogs.html All i am posting is what it says and now you are saying you dont understand I am merely defining it a bit so numpties who take what you are saying as 'the law' then get their dogs shot because they did not understand it fully Quote Link to post Share on other sites
artic 595 Posted August 16, 2010 Author Report Share Posted August 16, 2010 Artic you posted the.... http://www.naturenet.net/law/dogs.html All i am posting is what it says and now you are saying you dont understand I am merely defining it a bit so numpties who take what you are saying as 'the law' then get their dogs shot because they did not understand it fully L&B, you are on about "Livestock" I'm on about "Game Birds" two different things under Defra. Anyone can worry game birds, however under Defra there is no power as a farmer/keeper to shoot, or order you to leash your dog. This is purely about not having to leagally leash your dog up espeacially this time of year, however SOME keepers expect you to do so, and believe it's "Law" to do so. Wrong. This doesn't mean that the first pen you see, you release the dog onto it, thats a seperate isssue and anyone doing that then deserves what they get. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Lambert&Butler Posted August 16, 2010 Report Share Posted August 16, 2010 Artic you posted the.... http://www.naturenet.net/law/dogs.html All i am posting is what it says and now you are saying you dont understand I am merely defining it a bit so numpties who take what you are saying as 'the law' then get their dogs shot because they did not understand it fully L&B, you are on about "Livestock" I'm on about "Game Birds" two different things under Defra. Anyone can worry game birds, however under Defra there is no power as a farmer/keeper to shoot, or order you to leash your dog. This is purely about not having to leagally leash your dog up espeacially this time of year, however SOME keepers expect you to do so, and believe it's "Law" to do so. Wrong. This doesn't mean that the first pen you see, you release the dog onto it, thats a seperate isssue and anyone doing that then deserves what they get. AGAIN, i was not on about game birds, I was on about the law you quoted. Imbeciles will not take into consideration the birds/livestock issue, will just see that you have your dogs off the lead so it must be ok to do so...get my drift now? I could'nt care a jot about the people....it is always the dogs that get it Quote Link to post Share on other sites
danw 1,748 Posted August 16, 2010 Report Share Posted August 16, 2010 Your info is misleading if you are on open access land the rules are very different so to suggest that the countryside act always applies is incorrect http://www.direct.gov.uk/en/Environmentandgreenerliving/Greenertravel/Enjoyingthecountryside/DG_187645 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Lambert&Butler Posted August 16, 2010 Report Share Posted August 16, 2010 From your info..... Dogs may be restricted or banned sometimes, so look out for signs. In any case, you must keep any dogs on a short (less than 2 metres) fixed lead: •between 1 March and 31 July •at any other time near livestock Quote Link to post Share on other sites
WILF 47,351 Posted August 16, 2010 Report Share Posted August 16, 2010 From your info..... Dogs may be restricted or banned sometimes, so look out for signs. In any case, you must keep any dogs on a short (less than 2 metres) fixed lead: •between 1 March and 31 July •at any other time near livestock My goodness!......do you mean to say that Rumpole of the Bailey is talking out of his hole!! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
gonetoearth 5,144 Posted August 16, 2010 Report Share Posted August 16, 2010 : Exactly, "Claims" and also is in the wrong. Gonetoearth, you need to calm down and take 5, it's no good for the blood you know. Answer with that you say??? It's a perfect polite and accurate answer, to a silly request from a boy who knows only an inch of the countryside act, and that is where the pens are located! This boy seems to believe that all dogs must be leashed up on a public footpath because he states "It's the law" LOLOL.... There are no livestock, it is not law to do so in this situation, and we have a boy here trying preach to others something that he does not know about himself. LOLOLOL. You sure it wasn't your friend? [/quote ill bet you wear pink cords, it makes no difference if he understands the law or not he asked you in you own words to leash your dogs , your response should have been to carry out the request then explain the law then address the situation regarding you dogs high standard of stock training , but no your that far up your own self righteous arse you chose the big i am route , well Attic you reap what you sow , :wankerzo4: :wankerzo4: :wankerzo4: Quote Link to post Share on other sites
FoxyWarrior 17 Posted August 16, 2010 Report Share Posted August 16, 2010 Should it now says he! What a fine gentleman you are. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Cajunrules 8 Posted August 16, 2010 Report Share Posted August 16, 2010 What a nasty man you are. What a fine gentleman you are. This is reminding me of Little Red Riding Hood Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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