Countryside Act 1981

[artic 595]

This has probably been mentioned before in the past, however I feel that all members who are not aware of it should have a quick read and maybe photo copy the act and keep on you at all times to produce to uneducated farmers and game keepers.

 

This morning whilst out with the dogs having their daily excercise I was approahed by a chap in a car. My dogs were off the lead and to heal on a public footpath. This chap who claimed he was the farmers nephew asked me to leash up both dogs as he has pheasants put down in various spinneys. Well I wasn't shocked by his request but a little amazed by his uneducated country law.

 

I politlely asked him where his pheasants were placed , so I will stay away from them. This was only stated as I wanted to remain polite. The chap pointed behind me and said that the keeper has put pheasants over there and will not be too pleased to see me walking the dogs off the lead. Well I laughed and told this chap that the dogs are totally stock trained, however one of them has caught a bird or two whilst out on walks. I also explained parts of the country side act to him that the dogs are not worrrying any livestock and are in total control as he could see.

 

This chap then said "No mate the law states you gotta keep those dogs on leads" I then went on to explain that he has no livestock and that his game birds are not actually classed as livestock. I further informed him that I'm fully aware of the law, and that I'm not going to argue about what is what. I left the chap in his car and walked off. This whole converstaion lasted 3 minutes, short, and to the point.

 

Have a look at this, and stand up for your rights.

 

http://www.naturenet.net/law/dogs.html

[Guest Defender Poacher]

well you being a policeman you should know the law, saying that with some of the shit spouted out by you lot thats debatable

[bendrover 556]

This has probably been mentioned before in the past, however I feel that all members who are not aware of it should have a quick read and maybe photo copy the act and keep on you at all times to produce to uneducated farmers and game keepers.

 

This morning whilst out with the dogs having their daily excercise I was approahed by a chap in a car. My dogs were off the lead and to heal on a public footpath. This chap who claimed he was the farmers nephew asked me to leash up both dogs as he has pheasants put down in various spinneys. Well I wasn't shocked by his request but a little amazed by his uneducated country law.

 

I politlely asked him where his pheasants were placed , so I will stay away from them. This was only stated as I wanted to remain polite. The chap pointed behind me and said that the keeper has put pheasants over there and will not be too pleased to see me walking the dogs off the lead. Well I laughed and told this chap that the dogs are totally stock trained, however one of them has caught a bird or two whilst out on walks. I also explained parts of the country side act to him that the dogs are not worrrying any livestock and are in total control as he could see.

 

This chap then said "No mate the law states you gotta keep those dogs on leads" I then went on to explain that he has no livestock and that his game birds are not actually classed as livestock. I further informed him that I'm fully aware of the law, and that I'm not going to argue about what is what. I left the chap in his car and walked off. This whole converstaion lasted 3 minutes, short, and to the point.

 

Have a look at this, and stand up for your rights.

 

http://www.naturenet.net/law/dogs.html

 

Good on you mate. My dogs take pheasants all the time. I try to stop it but what can you do, the birds are so dumb!!! I don't know if this is true but I heard that the pheasant was originally a clever bird and they had to dumb it down cos of how fat and lazy the shooters were who hunted it!!!

[artic 595]

Sugar Coated, although it's not good practice to take young poults this time of year, but I fully understand how silly they are (pen magnets). Also it's tough luck really if a dog takes a poult which is out of his pen and no intention is there, unless your inside the pen with your dogs, then the pheasants become livestock and then you become fair game, or shall I say the dog/s do.

[chimp 299]

couldnt you does show them your warrant badge ?

[jamie2004live 163]

you should of done a procedure copper lock on him then slipped him some of youre lengthy trunchen that would teach those civillians

[poacher3161 1,766]

Sugar coated plums its fekin hard work carrying pheasants and an h.w. this lot i had to borrow a fekin wheelbarrow from some near by stables.

[Cajunrules 8]

Sugar coated plums its fekin hard work carrying pheasants and an h.w. this lot i had to borrow a fekin wheelbarrow from some near by stables.

 

F*ckin hell Poacher your camera lens must have come out of that lads specs in your avatar

[poacher3161 1,766]

Sugar coated plums its fekin hard work carrying pheasants and an h.w. this lot i had to borrow a fekin wheelbarrow from some near by stables.

 

F*ckin hell Poacher your camera lens must have come out of that lads specs in your avatar

Not the best pics still trying to suss them out.

[Guest Lambert&Butler]

Still your word against theirs. and who is more likely to be believed?.........

Any dog which is not a working dog can be regarded as worrying livestock merely by being off lead and not under close control in a field or enclosure where there are sheep. A landowner could shoot such a dog, if it can be proved that the action was necessary to protect livestock and that it was reported to the police within 48 hours.

 

Not worth the risk imo.

[Matt 160]

While still in the release pen, pheasants are classified as livestock. Once released, they become wild game.

 

It is an offence to 'take' (by any means) any game bird during the close season - even if it was by 'accident'.

 

Why is this forum becoming so anti shooting? No need for it in my opinion; each man to his own........

[FoxyWarrior 17]

Game Birds are not classified as Livestock once released from their pens. So if your dog was to worry them, i.e chase them then there is nothing to worry about as DEFRA states and the farmers should know better not to ask anyone to leash up their dogs whilst walking them. Catching them out of season is a different ball game. I understand if the dogs are running around the pens, then as a responsible dog owner and common sense you should leash them up.

 

It's not about being so anti, it's knowing your rights, walking your dogs in peace and not being targeted because you are walking a lurcher. Farmers and gamekeepers should know this act inside out! They have no rights to do so, yes they may be cheeky and try it on and ask, but the answer will be a polite no. As it was mentioned earlier, the chap said "It's the law" no it's not, it's what you believe it to be and would like it to be because it's your land. Sorry it doesn't work like that, and I think more people should stick up for your rights when you are out walking your dogs.

 

Obvioulsy this does not apply if your intent is to do something a little different when walking your dogs.

Edited August 16, 2010 by FoxyWarrior

[Guest Lambert&Butler]

So if a hare jumped up in front of your dogs it would stay to heel and not chase it......i very much doubt it. Therefore your dog is not fully under control and a farmer is perfectly within his rights to shoot your dog. It is always the dogs that suffer because of mans ignorance /bravado.

If in doubt keep it leashed!

[FoxyWarrior 17]

Read the act again. "Livestock"

 

The definition of 'livestock' includes cattle, sheep, goats, swine, horses and poultry. Game birds are not included."

 

If it was any of the above then yes. No mention of hares? Hare coursing is illegal as we all know, thats a different situation different act. Section 5.9 of The Hunting Act 2004.

[gonetoearth 5,144]

This has probably been mentioned before in the past, however I feel that all members who are not aware of it should have a quick read and maybe photo copy the act and keep on you at all times to produce to uneducated farmers and game keepers.

 

This morning whilst out with the dogs having their daily excercise I was approahed by a chap in a car. My dogs were off the lead and to heal on a public footpath. This chap who claimed he was the farmers nephew asked me to leash up both dogs as he has pheasants put down in various spinneys. Well I wasn't shocked by his request but a little amazed by his uneducated country law.

 

I politlely asked him where his pheasants were placed , so I will stay away from them. This was only stated as I wanted to remain polite. The chap pointed behind me and said that the keeper has put pheasants over there and will not be too pleased to see me walking the dogs off the lead. Well I laughed and told this chap that the dogs are totally stock trained, however one of them has caught a bird or two whilst out on walks. I also explained parts of the country side act to him that the dogs are not worrrying any livestock and are in total control as he could see.

 

This chap then said "No mate the law states you gotta keep those dogs on leads" I then went on to explain that he has no livestock and that his game birds are not actually classed as livestock. I further informed him that I'm fully aware of the law, and that I'm not going to argue about what is what. I left the chap in his car and walked off. This whole converstaion lasted 3 minutes, short, and to the point.

 

Have a look at this, and stand up for your rights.

 

http://www.naturenet.net/law/dogs.html

a man who claims to represent the land owner ask's you to put your

dogs on leads , explains why and you answer with that , like ive said

before :wankerzo4: :wankerzo4: :wankerzo4: