the gypsy dog

[romany52 313]

I always thought it was the working classes miners steel works etc depending on where you lived was type of dog you needed owning a pure greyhound in thoughs days was asking for trouble If not a noble or rich just what makes sence to me

 

Lurchers go way back before miners and steel workers Mate, more like medieval times.

[davey 310]

Yeah logic I suppose they would have been involved in the modern dogs of today so who did invent it a working pesent or gypsy or even land owner who

[carrot cruncher 3]

what a good read i must be a gypsy poacher becouse thats how i brake my dogs to sheep

[romany52 313]

Yeah logic I suppose they would have been involved in the modern dogs of today so who did invent it a working pesent or gypsy or even land owner who

It's believed that Romanys arrived in England around the 13th century, but I'm sure there would have been lurchers in use before then, I think the real reason for the original collie lurcher was to try to disguise a running dog as a herding Dog. In those days any long legged herding dogs owned by peasants were docked by law in the belief that it would stop them from catching game. Any dogs owned by peasants that lived within the royal hunting grounds, other than herding dogs, had to fit through a dog gauge. If they didn't they had a front foot cut off!

[davey 310]

Yeah logic I suppose they would have been involved in the modern dogs of today so who did invent it a working pesent or gypsy or even land owner who

It's believed that Romanys arrived in England around the 13th century, but I'm sure there would have been lurchers in use before then, I think the real reason for the original collie lurcher was to try to disguise a running dog as a herding Dog. In those days any long legged herding dogs owned by peasants were docked by law in the belief that it would stop them from catching game. Any dogs owned by peasants that lived within the royal hunting grounds, other than herding dogs, had to fit through a dog gauge. If they didn't they had a front foot cut off!

Fair play

[romany52 313]

Yeah logic I suppose they would have been involved in the modern dogs of today so who did invent it a working pesent or gypsy or even land owner who

It's believed that Romanys arrived in England around the 13th century, but I'm sure there would have been lurchers in use before then, I think the real reason for the original collie lurcher was to try to disguise a running dog as a herding Dog. In those days any long legged herding dogs owned by peasants were docked by law in the belief that it would stop them from catching game. Any dogs owned by peasants that lived within the royal hunting grounds, other than herding dogs, had to fit through a dog gauge. If they didn't they had a front foot cut off!

 

You sure it was a foot mate? I thought it was a toe..... If they cut the foot off they would have been as well cutting its head off!!!!

Plenty of dogs run without a toe mate, I wasn't there so it's only what I've read, it definitely said foot, but you know books mate, take it all with a pinch of salt.

[Guest Buttermilk]

Yeah logic I suppose they would have been involved in the modern dogs of today so who did invent it a working pesent or gypsy or even land owner who

It's believed that Romanys arrived in England around the 13th century, but I'm sure there would have been lurchers in use before then, I think the real reason for the original collie lurcher was to try to disguise a running dog as a herding Dog. In those days any long legged herding dogs owned by peasants were docked by law in the belief that it would stop them from catching game. Any dogs owned by peasants that lived within the royal hunting grounds, other than herding dogs, had to fit through a dog gauge. If they didn't they had a front foot cut off!

 

You sure it was a foot mate? I thought it was a toe..... If they cut the foot off they would have been as well cutting its head off!!!!

Plenty of dogs run without a toe mate, I wasn't there so it's only what I've read, it definitely said foot, but you know books mate, take it all with a pinch of salt.

 

 

Romany is right. It's a foot...the dog was 'hobbled'..it was meant as the ultimate punishment and warning and sometimes the owner was beheaded if he repeatedly flouted the law.

P.S.I'm a Medieval Historian.

Edited August 15, 2010 by Buttermilk

[Guest Buttermilk]

Anyhow, getting back to the topic...it's really interesting and thanks Stewie for posting it.

I have some fabulous books on Medieval hunting dogs...friends of our came to stay last Christmas and he spent the whole time buried in the books....and now, guess what...they have a Lurcher pup.

[Guest stewie]

Anyhow, getting back to the topic...it's really interesting and thanks Stewie for posting it.

I have some fabulous books on Medieval hunting dogs...friends of our came to stay last Christmas and he spent the whole time buried in the books....and now, guess what...they have a Lurcher pup.

cheers buttermilk!!!! and well done on getting your friends into hunting

[all.rounder 3]

thanks. a good read

[Guest stewie]

thanks. a good reply :laugh:

[davey 310]

Thanks stewie I have learnt something new good tread still not the gypsy who invented it most proberly a French Norman or even arther pentagent dreuid not taking the p@iss cheers

Edited August 15, 2010 by davey

[Stabs 3]

Cleaned up.....keep it on track people