Plummers as good as any??!!

[J Darcy 5,871]

Shamo...what was your conclusion on the "type" after seeing a few dogs in the field. cheers.

[Moorman 1 1,325]

DITTO Shamo each to their own and good hunting to you

As you said what suits one man won't always suit another.I have seen good and bad of all breeds over the years.Personally as a terrierman I admire any terrier that does the job regardless of its breed,strain,colour etc.I think a lot of people knock certain dogs just because of their name/breed,but all that matters to me is that they do their job to ground.

 

P.S. I know you didn't say the offer still stands.I was saying that the offer to show you the bitch work still stands.(sorry my poor english).

Edited January 22, 2007 by Moorman 1

[Guest Eamon.Mc]

[Guest stella]

anybody any wiser

[macker 5]

after reading this thread with a start to it of inviting of any working terrier

that can be dug too to come up to your land and show you.

have seen five or six bad plummers that where more agressive with other dogs

than they where with any form of game.

but also seen one bitch which was top class and you could put in any hole you wanted.

the bitch died after her third season working in ground .i have lost contact

with the owner even tough i promiced a lad on another site i would get the breeding of

the bitch for him.

i dont like the plumer terrier but if i seen a good one for sale that was digging well

i would not think twice of buying it as long as its working who cares.

if it was me that started this thread i would of taken up the offer.

nice to see a russel of any type working

all the best

macker

[AMADORE 5]

shamo why does anyone have to prove how a plummer works , how long have you had terriers? i got a terrier off plummer a long time ago when it was still legal to dig the big fellows not foxes as i regard foxes as not a true test of a terriers worth. this terrier proved his worth in front of many terrier men in many differant locations up and down the country with out the aid of a locater just with the old bar and the voice of the dog with sometime muliple digs in the same day.how many terriers around today can work an earth without a locater box can yours shamo?ive owned and work many different breeds fells , russels, borders, pats as well as plummers and there,s shite in every breed seen many spew it but there,s good dogs as well but what i find today that there is not so many people around that can get the best out of a terrier without ruining it because they havent served a proper apprentice ship to the dogs. ive given good fox dogs away in the past because they wernt up for the real test. plummers seem to have a bad time because of plummer himself not because of how they can work as they are just like any other breed some good some bad.i dont need to prove anything nowadays only to myself if a dogs worth keeping as im the one feeding and keeping it. but a word of warning shamo asking for a demo with anyone as your more likely to invite some thieving feckers down who,s only intrested in stealing your dogs so beware.we,ve had our share of dogs lifted by smiling faces.

 

Spot on

[AMADORE 5]

Posting for a mate.Went up to a keepers place a week or so back and dug this game bird thief with my mates old Plummer bitch.We dug to her at a good 10 foot.This bitch is about 10 1/2 years of age and is still 100% reliable on fox.I have seen this bitch and her mother find in earths that other terriers have failed in on the day.These two bitches are/were as good as any earth dog on fox.If you get a Plummer from the right lineage and enter it correctly it will do the job as good as any other terrier.

 

Which bitch was that moorman? Was it gorse?

[Squirrel_Basher 17,100]

Just to bring things into the 21st century ,anyone reading this and thinking its ok to work a terrier without a collar has no business owning one .

[The Breeder 156]

I have had the pleasure of seeing some of the plummer terriers moorman 1 has spoken about and even owned one a bitch a good bitch to fox but unfortunately she sufficated a few season's ago i own and breed lakies and borders but some of the dogs that moorman 1 was talking about were excellent dogs to ground don't put anything down until you see it work

Edited October 31, 2009 by The Breeder

[Shamo 319]

Shamo...what was your conclusion on the "type" after seeing a few dogs in the field. cheers.

Hi Bud, I have had 2 or 3 guys come down with 'Plummers' and just let them get on with how they do things, just standing back and watching. I was impressed with one guys dog in particular and would of gladly kept it here. We got chatting that night while out lamping and then it came out!.......the dog was half Plummer and half Gouldy Brightmore! It wasn't a registered so called 'pure' Plummer, it was a cross! It was, however a good dog and worth feeding, capable of some 'heavy' work, worth owning in my opinion. The other two guys had their Terriers running around loose, together, which started telling me something about the way these Terriers work. BOTH guys had a youngster and an older Terrier, using the older one as a mentor, in itself not a bad thing, but running loose together!? As you can guess, one guys TerrierSS went to ground and we had an awkward dig, done a bit of 'honeycombing' and eventually got our Fox....FOX, but didn't get to see the older dog work as an individual. The second guys Dogs were just hyperactive Rat Dogs, running around and over Earths, having to be called back to check holes. The older dog was put in a hole on it's own and a bit of baying and bumping and out it came, a bit chewed up, 'hissed' back in again and another hour of baying, bumping and moving and in and out. I called a stop to the proceedings and the guy....... called his Terrier out! The Terrier was a 'pure' Plummer' and what a 'Plum' it was too! The owner promptly told me the youngster he had with him was half Gould and the Son of the Bitch we had been watching.

So out of the 3 guys who came down and the 6 or 7 'Plummers' and crosses they had, I would of liked to of owned the one....which was a 'Plummer Gouldy Brightmore' cross.

I personally would not go after a Plummer, but if I saw a good individual, I would. There is a difference.

[MISTY 11]

Just to bring things into the 21st century ,anyone reading this and thinking its ok to work a terrier without a collar has no business owning one .

I agree every terrierman should collar up his dog ,but should also be able to find his dog without the aid of one as accidents and failure do happen .

[Moorman 1 1,325]

Posting for a mate.Went up to a keepers place a week or so back and dug this game bird thief with my mates old Plummer bitch.We dug to her at a good 10 foot.This bitch is about 10 1/2 years of age and is still 100% reliable on fox.I have seen this bitch and her mother find in earths that other terriers have failed in on the day.These two bitches are/were as good as any earth dog on fox.If you get a Plummer from the right lineage and enter it correctly it will do the job as good as any other terrier.

 

Which bitch was that moorman? Was it gorse?

 

 

No it was my mates bitch double bred from Vandal a bitch called Plummer.

[the_stig 6,614]

Just to bring things into the 21st century ,anyone reading this and thinking its ok to work a terrier without a collar has no business owning one .

I agree every terrierman should collar up his dog ,but should also be able to find his dog without the aid of one as accidents and failure do happen .

how many of todays terrier lads could or would know how to fnd without the aid of one

[stormyboy 1,352]

Posting for a mate.Went up to a keepers place a week or so back and dug this game bird thief with my mates old Plummer bitch.We dug to her at a good 10 foot.This bitch is about 10 1/2 years of age and is still 100% reliable on fox.I have seen this bitch and her mother find in earths that other terriers have failed in on the day.These two bitches are/were as good as any earth dog on fox.If you get a Plummer from the right lineage and enter it correctly it will do the job as good as any other terrier.

 

Which bitch was that moorman? Was it gorse?

 

 

No it was my mates bitch double bred from Vandal a bitch called Plummer.

 

 

[Cleanspade 3,322]

most of the young generation would be lost without one. they totally rely on them. it is the must have piece of kit. but it doesnt need to be used 100 per cent. most digs can be done without using them. only resorting to using them when struggling.