falcongit 242 Posted August 7, 2010 Report Share Posted August 7, 2010 hi all,went out shooting this morning about 4.30am not far from where i live about 15 mins away so very handy.i havent been out shooting much due to work and getting up at 4.15 am to get picked up with the lads to cut collies,so when i get finneshed i am to tied to go out shooting,anyway no work today so made the efort to get ready with my gear,got to my permission got set up and had a walk around loads of woodys flying of no chance with them they seen me coming (little gits) there was some magies about but could not see them,had a walk round the fishing lake and got laid down on the lawn with the farmers house in front of me,nice spot,i could see the bunneys playing on the other side of the garden but they were to far away to get a clear shot,so left them to play,waited for quite a while and then one pops out maybe about 20m, i had a nice clear shot,let a superdome of and the bunney flipped over onto its back with its back leg twitching,great shot...i went and picked it up and left it on top of the farmers boat that was in the field to stop mr fox getting it while i had a walk round again.i got laid down where i see the 2 playing ealer and one came runnig out and stopped i think he clocked me anyway he stayed there long another to let one of,straight down he went, loveley i thought went over picked him up(now this is the strange part) i had him my hands but could not see where the pellet had hit the bunney,then the next thing the rabbit jumped out of my hads,f-ck me i shit myself i wasent expecting that and run of,that realy p-ssed me of....has anyone had that happen to them before.......anyway went for another walk round sat down on the bench watching the fish comeing to the top to feed and ducks land next to me on the water while i was:censored: swearing under my breath about the bunney that got the better of me.... 4 Quote Link to post
johnboy19 38 Posted August 7, 2010 Report Share Posted August 7, 2010 I had a similar morning, up at 4.30, permission 15 mins drive and got 1 bunny lol. What happened to you also happened to me once. I shot a rabbit, good bit of kicking etc so i got straight up to get it. Went to pick it up and it jumped away. Grabbed it and necked it straightaway. What had happened was i had shot it in the eye, missing the brain. Totally my fault and just down to a slightly off target shot. I felt bad afterwards, but there must have been maybe 8 seconds between pellet hitting and me necking it. Now i am in the habit of necking every rabbit i shoot just incase. It does get to you but it will happen to us all at some point John 1 Quote Link to post
aaronpigeonplucker 32 Posted August 7, 2010 Report Share Posted August 7, 2010 i had a similar shot with a woody. if your aiming at the head and you get it through the eye then you will have completely missed the brain. but since the rabbit/woody can't see anything it dosent do anything and is merely stunned until you pick it up and the feeling of touch makes it run off. if you aim for the neck and you miss the spine by mm the same thing can happen except usually the rabbit/ woody sees you first. Quote Link to post
falcongit 242 Posted August 7, 2010 Author Report Share Posted August 7, 2010 I had a similar morning, up at 4.30, permission 15 mins drive and got 1 bunny lol. What happened to you also happened to me once. I shot a rabbit, good bit of kicking etc so i got straight up to get it. Went to pick it up and it jumped away. Grabbed it and necked it straightaway. What had happened was i had shot it in the eye, missing the brain. Totally my fault and just down to a slightly off target shot. I felt bad afterwards, but there must have been maybe 8 seconds between pellet hitting and me necking it. Now i am in the habit of necking every rabbit i shoot just incase. It does get to you but it will happen to us all at some point John i am not the only one then bud,i dont think i got it in the eye from the way it ran of it could see where it was going mate there was plenty of trees it went through and never bumped into any of them.....cheers bud sym Quote Link to post
falcongit 242 Posted August 7, 2010 Author Report Share Posted August 7, 2010 i had a similar shot with a woody. if your aiming at the head and you get it through the eye then you will have completely missed the brain. but since the rabbit/woody can't see anything it dosent do anything and is merely stunned until you pick it up and the feeling of touch makes it run off. if you aim for the neck and you miss the spine by mm the same thing can happen except usually the rabbit/ woody sees you first. hi mate,i dont think i got it in the eye because of the way it ran of it never ran into anything,i think i must have cliped it and it had knocked it out for a few mins,what i should have done is neck it straight away i was to busy looking for the entry woud which i couldent see. sym Quote Link to post
stealthy1 3,964 Posted August 7, 2010 Report Share Posted August 7, 2010 Nice shooting mate, I've never had one jump out of my hand, but I've had plenty jump up and run away when I've bent down to pick them up SWP Quote Link to post
falcongit 242 Posted August 7, 2010 Author Report Share Posted August 7, 2010 Nice shooting mate, I've never had one jump out of my hand, but I've had plenty jump up and run away when I've bent down to pick them up SWP cheers bud,very strange mate int it... sym Quote Link to post
matt_hooks 188 Posted August 7, 2010 Report Share Posted August 7, 2010 This is where the old deer stalkers trick of poking it with the muzzle of the rifle first to see if it's dead comes in. With deer you touch them on the eye to see if there's any movement. If there is you can take a couple of steps back and finish them off with a shot to the skull. With bunnies a touch between the eyes, with the muzzle pointing down through the head, or lift their chin with the muzzle pointing upward and backward toward the base of the skull. If they move you have much more chance of stopping them, and saving a wounded rabbit running off. Everyone has mis hits and occasionally wounds an animal, being a hunter means following these up and making sure the animal suffers as little as possible! I've had rabbits get up and run off when shot in the head with the .22LR, granted they don't tend to get far, but it's amazing what the nervous system can do even when there's very little brain left! Quote Link to post
andyfr1968 772 Posted August 7, 2010 Report Share Posted August 7, 2010 I went out last week and the last bunny of the day (no. 5) keeled over, back legs waveing good night. I picked it up, checked the shot which was a perfect just below the ear and behind the eye. Easy 20 yard shot, pellet passing through... Took him and his mates back to the car, made the hours drive back home, opened the boot of the car and I could see it breathing about an hour and a half after being shot. I mean proper chest going up and down!! I picked it up and it was still warm and limp, riggo had set into the others. It was deffo brain dead as most of them were hanging out of it's head. Never had anything quite like that before. Cheers. Quote Link to post
Phantom 631 Posted August 7, 2010 Report Share Posted August 7, 2010 Nice read Sym, If you'd have hit it in the eye, you'd have seen it, its not pretty You all know my worst shot at the bunny at Roos, so I won't go into it again as I'm trying to get sh!t faced due to bad news (well thats my excuse and I'm sticking to it, I should be on my record bag shoot right now! F K ) My guess Sym is you clipped it on the skull, litterally by a thou' of a mm, hence enough energy xfere to knock it unconsious but not enough to keep it that way for long. Every one has the odd flyer or episode like this, John has gotten into the habit that I got into after I had the experiance at Roos. Although I don't do it now if I hear the perfect crack of lead on skull, you'll get to know the differing sounds of the pellet strike, on the different parts of the skeleton. The worst one for me (unless going for a spinal shot) is a dull thud as I know its gone through the chest (wich lucky for me is a very rare occurance now) as it usually means the bunny will run, not too far usually, but Linford got to a point where I couldn't reach him I could see he was dead, but I couldn't retrieve him that night and in the morning there was no trace of him, but there was a trace of Mrs V. ixon. That was a fluffed shot and cost me a black fluff SPA for being honest and the good read Phantom Quote Link to post
Phantom 631 Posted August 7, 2010 Report Share Posted August 7, 2010 It was deffo brain dead as most of them were hanging out of it's head. Never had anything quite like that before. Cheers. That is what happens when the Cerabellum remains intact The Cerabellum (little brain or the section nearest or is what we used to call the brain stem) is what controls the "Living" part, ie breathing, metabolism etc... It has nothing to do wit the "Higher Brain functions such as thought, alertness feeling etc) I like to shoot at or very near the cerabellum. thats when you get the roll over in the oposite direction to you and the bunny sometimes doesn't even raise its leg and wave. To me that is the finest of all the shots (the holey grail of the hunter) totally dead before it even begins to fall. Sometimes however with a brain shot on a kit it becomes very disturbing. The brain is soft enough to let the pellet through and usually follows the pellet out of the skull like this (WARNING GRAPHIC IMAGE FOLLOWS) . . . . . As you can see this kit was shot from directly behind and between the ears. Perfect yes? NO!!! I'd just missed the little brain by a fraction, the pellet entered just above it, went through the higher brain and out the front. The soft brain tissue followed it due to the speed of the pellet creating a vacume. The kit was DEAD but the Cerabellum didn't shut down and this kit, ran and flapped about like it was an olympic gymnast took me about 3 seconds to get to it and sever the motor nerve from the cerabellum by necking. That three seconds seemed like an eternity for me and was deeply disturbing as well Phantom Quote Link to post
stealthy1 3,964 Posted August 7, 2010 Report Share Posted August 7, 2010 It was deffo brain dead as most of them were hanging out of it's head. Never had anything quite like that before. Cheers. That is what happens when the Cerabellum remains intact The Cerabellum (little brain or the section nearest or is what we used to call the brain stem) is what controls the "Living" part, ie breathing, metabolism etc... It has nothing to do wit the "Higher Brain functions such as thought, alertness feeling etc) I like to shoot at or very near the cerabellum. thats when you get the roll over in the oposite direction to you and the bunny sometimes doesn't even raise its leg and wave. To me that is the finest of all the shots (the holey grail of the hunter) totally dead before it even begins to fall. Sometimes however with a brain shot on a kit it becomes very disturbing. The brain is soft enough to let the pellet through and usually follows the pellet out of the skull like this (WARNING GRAPHIC IMAGE FOLLOWS) . . . . . As you can see this kit was shot from directly behind and between the ears. Perfect yes? NO!!! I'd just missed the little brain by a fraction, the pellet entered just above it, went through the higher brain and out the front. The soft brain tissue followed it due to the speed of the pellet creating a vacume. The kit was DEAD but the Cerabellum didn't shut down and this kit, ran and flapped about like it was an olympic gymnast took me about 3 seconds to get to it and sever the motor nerve from the cerabellum by necking. That three seconds seemed like an eternity for me and was deeply disturbing as well Phantom Are you sure thats not an elephant, because it has a trunk stuck out of its forehead Quote Link to post
gurtwurz 792 Posted August 7, 2010 Report Share Posted August 7, 2010 as above mate, especially with the odd kit, although i've had a couple recently with the hw100 .22 that have dropped like stones, straight out and i cant see a mark on em, i know they were good head shots and theyve been dead straight off but i cant find a mark on em. bloody strange... cheers, wurz Quote Link to post
stealthy1 3,964 Posted August 7, 2010 Report Share Posted August 7, 2010 as above mate, especially with the odd kit, although i've had a couple recently with the hw100 .22 that have dropped like stones, straight out and i cant see a mark on em, i know they were good head shots and theyve been dead straight off but i cant find a mark on em. bloody strange... cheers, wurz Thats the power of the darkside my son Quote Link to post
Phantom 631 Posted August 7, 2010 Report Share Posted August 7, 2010 Thats the power of the darkside my son That was gunna be my line GIT :laugh: Quote Link to post
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