best all

[Casso 1,261]

It depends also of your definition of an all rounder, we prefared an rounded lurcher to be able to assist at the end of a dig , while not have had the pace for hare work , a bit of a jack of all trades, Depends on the work intended by its owner, which may not be the same as another lurcher man in a different area,,

[Romany 1,065]

The best alround dogs are owned by the best alround hunters, and not many of these around now. Too many one for the pot men and part timers

[DottyDoo 500]

The best alround dogs are owned by the best alround hunters, and not many of these around now. Too many one for the pot men and part timers

 

[Bosun11 537]

The best alround dogs are owned by the best alround hunters, and not many of these around now. Too many one for the pot men and part timers

 

Poach & Stabba too!!

[Romany 1,065]

The best alround dogs are owned by the best alround hunters, and not many of these around now. Too many one for the pot men and part timers

 

Poach & Stabba too!!

 

Ha, ha..

 

I nearly phoned you up the other day mate, was going to try and get down to the reds match on Thursday but it fell through

[pottyboots 1]

Lurcher to lurcher bred pups off good breeding make the best allrounders imho.

 

totally agree, too many bred off average dogs.

[Bosun11 537]

The best alround dogs are owned by the best alround hunters, and not many of these around now. Too many one for the pot men and part timers

 

Poach & Stabba too!!

 

Ha, ha..

 

I nearly phoned you up the other day mate, was going to try and get down to the reds match on Thursday but it fell through

 

Anytime mate , when you are, give us a bell, you could stop over next time, bring your boots and we'll go for a wander!

[dytkos 17,804]

Understand the reasoning behind your "Jack of all trades" logic. In theory a purpose bred/trained "specialist" dog should be better than a dog that does several jobs (all things being equal) whether it be ferretting, coursing, foxing etc.

The converse arguement to this is that a "specialist" type dog is a one- trick pony and a dog that works on various quarry "has several strings to it's bow"

 

I am in no way decrying any specialist dogs, anyone who breeds, trains and works their dogs exclusively to one discipline is a respected specialist also imho, BUT an all rounder (remember the start of the thread) was what the lurcher was originally for. Yes, certain areas had rabbit dogs, some hare dogs, some deer dogs etc. but before people used them for sport they were (and had to be) pot fillers.

 

If you wanted a dog 30 or so years ago, before the web, you looked in the E & M.

A typical advert would be:

DH/GH X S/GH Dog. 3YO. HJKC. D/N. F&F £??? Possible trial. X Place Tel. ???? ?????

Or something similar. Anyone who doesn't understand this, get back to basics.

It's lurchers we're talking about here.

Cheers, D. Rant over.

[Ideation 8,216]

Understand the reasoning behind your "Jack of all trades" logic. In theory a purpose bred/trained "specialist" dog should be better than a dog that does several jobs (all things being equal) whether it be ferretting, coursing, foxing etc.

The converse arguement to this is that a "specialist" type dog is a one- trick pony and a dog that works on various quarry "has several strings to it's bow"

 

I am in no way decrying any specialist dogs, anyone who breeds, trains and works their dogs exclusively to one discipline is a respected specialist also imho, BUT an all rounder (remember the start of the thread) was what the lurcher was originally for. Yes, certain areas had rabbit dogs, some hare dogs, some deer dogs etc. but before people used them for sport they were (and had to be) pot fillers.

 

If you wanted a dog 30 or so years ago, before the web, you looked in the E & M.

A typical advert would be:

DH/GH X S/GH Dog. 3YO. HJKC. D/N. F&F £??? Possible trial. X Place Tel. ???? ?????

Or something similar. Anyone who doesn't understand this, get back to basics.

It's lurchers we're talking about here.

Cheers, D. Rant over.

 

 

You are of course right matey. IMO the landscape also plays a factor, although a really good dog will be able to handle most things, certain sizes and other attributes such as acceleration and stamina, will help a dog fair better against all quarry in different types of land. Obviously i everyone would prefer a dog that has it all, but even these come in different packages. Then there is also the factor of the hunter, some dogs suite some peoples ways of hunting and mentality better than others. I'd take an all rounder collie x over an all rounder bull x, but thats me.

[bendrover 556]

as above whats the best all rounders pics if any

nastybillys FURY, the dog took everything and i mean everything the best jack of all trades i have ever seen.nastybilly met a lad on a moor one day.the lad asked where he had covered,wullie (nastybilly)showed the lad so as he would avoid the ground he had trod.they chatted briefly about the game in one anothers bag.wullie being wullie,went back along the route the other lad had came from.wullie only had fury(lurcher x lurcher breeding)he met back up at the end of the day by chance with the same lad.wullie had caught 3 times the amount as the other guy.i have to add ,the guy in question had 2 gun dogs and a 12 bore what a dog

[WILF 47,233]

 

 

How many folk have the opportunity to do this though?

 

Everyone!.....if they can be bothered to get off their arse and make the effort

[dytkos 17,804]

as above whats the best all rounders pics if any

nastybillys FURY, the dog took everything and i mean everything the best jack of all trades i have ever seen.nastybilly met a lad on a moor one day.the lad asked where he had covered,wullie (nastybilly)showed the lad so as he would avoid the ground he had trod.they chatted briefly about the game in one anothers bag.wullie being wullie,went back along the route the other lad had came from.wullie only had fury(lurcher x lurcher breeding)he met back up at the end of the day by chance with the same lad.wullie had caught 3 times the amount as the other guy.i have to add ,the guy in question had 2 gun dogs and a 12 bore what a dog

 

Don't doubt you mate, but we've all got "stories" we can tell.

An all rounder is and can do:

 

Rabbit, rat, hare, fox, roe, fallow, red, pheasant, partridge, Day/Night etc etc. Thats an all rounder. Not many dogs can do all these.

 

:notworthy: To the guys that have dogs that do the list.

 

 

Some people have several specialist dogs. Some people have different dogs for different quarry. Some people have dogs for anything they are likely to encounter. Thats a lurcher.

I see very few hares/red/fallow so my dog isn't an "all rounder" he's a jack of all trades and master of none.....

Feckin muppets. :wallbash: :wallbash:

[#1poacher 8]

3/4 grey 1/4 collie the most popular of the 80s and early 90s they certainly do the job

[bendrover 556]

as above whats the best all rounders pics if any

nastybillys FURY, the dog took everything and i mean everything the best jack of all trades i have ever seen.nastybilly met a lad on a moor one day.the lad asked where he had covered,wullie (nastybilly)showed the lad so as he would avoid the ground he had trod.they chatted briefly about the game in one anothers bag.wullie being wullie,went back along the route the other lad had came from.wullie only had fury(lurcher x lurcher breeding)he met back up at the end of the day by chance with the same lad.wullie had caught 3 times the amount as the other guy.i have to add ,the guy in question had 2 gun dogs and a 12 bore what a dog

 

Don't doubt you mate, but we've all got "stories" we can tell.

An all rounder is and can do:

 

Rabbit, rat, hare, fox, roe, fallow, red, pheasant, partridge, Day/Night etc etc. Thats an all rounder. Not many dogs can do all these.

 

:notworthy: To the guys that have dogs that do the list.

 

 

Some people have several specialist dogs. Some people have different dogs for different quarry. Some people have dogs for anything they are likely to encounter. Thats a lurcher.

I see very few hares/red/fallow so my dog isn't an "all rounder" he's a jack of all trades and master of none.....

Feckin muppets. :wallbash: :wallbash:

your entitled to your opinion i do know what my take is on an all rounder and it is the same as yours.thats why i said the dog fury WAS indeed an all rounder,as for my STORY well you find me one person to contradict me on that dog and his reputation and i will show you a LIAR.as long as people tell stories that are true,no problems eh.

[DottyDoo 500]

 

 

How many folk have the opportunity to do this though?

 

Everyone!.....if they can be bothered to get off their arse and make the effort