tommygun166 0 Posted August 6, 2010 Report Share Posted August 6, 2010 i have been thinking about getting a bipod for my bsa supersport .22 but most people say you shouldn't have bipods on spring rifles, i mostly do rabbits but i have got all the thick ones and i am not very good at keeping it steady for long shots. so can anyone give me any advice on which bipod to buy or any other techniques thanks Tom Briggs age 14 Quote Link to post
Ron Weasley 83 Posted August 6, 2010 Report Share Posted August 6, 2010 It's good advice to not use a bipod on a spring rifle mate, because its essential to allow the rifle to recoil naturally and consistently, and putting pressure on a different part of the rifle- such as the barrel in the case of a bipod will not allow this to happen. When I use my springer, I try and take supported shots as often as I can, whether I lean on a fence or against a building, but I always make sure it's me touching the support, and not the rifle, that way, I can manage the recoil effectively. It sounds complicated when written like this, but it becomes second nature, and with practice and experience, you won't even realise you're doing it. Another poster on here recently asked a similar question, and he mentioned that he uses an old sock filled with sand to rest on. That's not a bad idea, and maybe you could adapt that suggestion to something that fits your shooting. Are you taking standing shots? You may find that if you can take them prone, you'll naturally support the rifle more steadily anyway. Quote Link to post
tommygun166 0 Posted August 6, 2010 Author Report Share Posted August 6, 2010 (edited) It's good advice to not use a bipod on a spring rifle mate, because its essential to allow the rifle to recoil naturally and consistently, and putting pressure on a different part of the rifle- such as the barrel in the case of a bipod will not allow this to happen. When I use my springer, I try and take supported shots as often as I can, whether I lean on a fence or against a building, but I always make sure it's me touching the support, and not the rifle, that way, I can manage the recoil effectively. It sounds complicated when written like this, but it becomes second nature, and with practice and experience, you won't even realise you're doing it. Another poster on here recently asked a similar question, and he mentioned that he uses an old sock filled with sand to rest on. That's not a bad idea, and maybe you could adapt that suggestion to something that fits your shooting. Are you taking standing shots? You may find that if you can take them prone, you'll naturally support the rifle more steadily anyway. i normally allways take shots prone but i still wobbles abit which is a problem when i am taking shots at rabbits far away so that is why i was wondering if i could fit a bipod, so i could be more accurate at long distance Edited August 6, 2010 by tommygun166 Quote Link to post
davyt63 1,845 Posted August 6, 2010 Report Share Posted August 6, 2010 It's good advice to not use a bipod on a spring rifle mate, because its essential to allow the rifle to recoil naturally and consistently, and putting pressure on a different part of the rifle- such as the barrel in the case of a bipod will not allow this to happen. When I use my springer, I try and take supported shots as often as I can, whether I lean on a fence or against a building, but I always make sure it's me touching the support, and not the rifle, that way, I can manage the recoil effectively. It sounds complicated when written like this, but it becomes second nature, and with practice and experience, you won't even realise you're doing it. Another poster on here recently asked a similar question, and he mentioned that he uses an old sock filled with sand to rest on. That's not a bad idea, and maybe you could adapt that suggestion to something that fits your shooting. Are you taking standing shots? You may find that if you can take them prone, you'll naturally support the rifle more steadily anyway. i normally allways take shots prone but i still wobbles abit which is a problem when i am taking shots at rabbits far away so that is why i was wondering if i could fit a bipod, so i could be more accurate at long distance hi buddy if ya still wobbling a bit,in a prone position ,and you want to take longer shots! then my advise is get ya self to a air gun club and get some practise in,do not use a bipod its not going to help!as you already stated you wobble if there is no club1 then get some practise in on ya permission if ya take a rucksack or bag with you try using that,or lean up against a tree with ya back firmly on the tree bring ya knee up and cross ya rms and support the rifle this way! and control ya breathing! just take ya time! no rush you have plenty more years to perfect this where are you based? there may be some one near who can help? good luck buddy regards davy Quote Link to post
stealthy1 3,964 Posted August 6, 2010 Report Share Posted August 6, 2010 Sounds like you need to brush up on your fieldcraft to get you a bit nearer to your quarry, or failing that, give your permission a rest until the rabbits become less warey, or save up for a pr-charge, but half the fun is gaining the skill Quote Link to post
Phantom 631 Posted August 6, 2010 Report Share Posted August 6, 2010 Thouroughly agree with Ron, Stealthy and Davy A bipod is not going to help you ESPECIALLY with long shots on a bunny (or any other quarry), they are just going to either leg it or laugh at you for trying A small bag that has some sort of filling such as sand or something lighter will help you much more than a pod Especially if you like to shoot prone Its funny I can't shoot a springer prone for toffee, but standing or sitting, I'm fine. With my PCP I have great difficulty shooting it standing yet prone, I very rarely miss! Phantom Quote Link to post
Phantom 631 Posted August 6, 2010 Report Share Posted August 6, 2010 Forgot to say, Long shots are a no no if you wobble. Lots of paper punching required til you perfect the Art Just out of interest, what do you call a long shot? Phantom Quote Link to post
tommygun166 0 Posted August 6, 2010 Author Report Share Posted August 6, 2010 It's good advice to not use a bipod on a spring rifle mate, because its essential to allow the rifle to recoil naturally and consistently, and putting pressure on a different part of the rifle- such as the barrel in the case of a bipod will not allow this to happen. When I use my springer, I try and take supported shots as often as I can, whether I lean on a fence or against a building, but I always make sure it's me touching the support, and not the rifle, that way, I can manage the recoil effectively. It sounds complicated when written like this, but it becomes second nature, and with practice and experience, you won't even realise you're doing it. Another poster on here recently asked a similar question, and he mentioned that he uses an old sock filled with sand to rest on. That's not a bad idea, and maybe you could adapt that suggestion to something that fits your shooting. Are you taking standing shots? You may find that if you can take them prone, you'll naturally support the rifle more steadily anyway. i normally allways take shots prone but i still wobbles abit which is a problem when i am taking shots at rabbits far away so that is why i was wondering if i could fit a bipod, so i could be more accurate at long distance hi buddy if ya still wobbling a bit,in a prone position ,and you want to take longer shots! then my advise is get ya self to a air gun club and get some practise in,do not use a bipod its not going to help!as you already stated you wobble if there is no club1 then get some practise in on ya permission if ya take a rucksack or bag with you try using that,or lean up against a tree with ya back firmly on the tree bring ya knee up and cross ya rms and support the rifle this way! and control ya breathing! just take ya time! no rush you have plenty more years to perfect this where are you based? there may be some one near who can help? good luck buddy regards davy north yorkshire Quote Link to post
tommygun166 0 Posted August 6, 2010 Author Report Share Posted August 6, 2010 Forgot to say, Long shots are a no no if you wobble. Lots of paper punching required til you perfect the Art Just out of interest, what do you call a long shot? Phantom 70- feet Quote Link to post
slingshot82 32 Posted August 6, 2010 Report Share Posted August 6, 2010 Forgot to say, Long shots are a no no if you wobble. Lots of paper punching required til you perfect the Art Just out of interest, what do you call a long shot? Phantom 70- feet Thats only about 25 yards mate, if you cant hold steady to shoot accurately at that range you need alot of practice. Your in need of plenty paper targets buddy Kyle Quote Link to post
Phantom 631 Posted August 6, 2010 Report Share Posted August 6, 2010 Hi again Tom 70 to feet is not what we would call a long shot. Indeed our nominal safe range would be around 30 yards or so (roughly 100 feet) Great to see your not talking crud and you are being sensible regarding your ranges for your age well done young man I would deffinatly suggest you use a sock or a bag with something inside to fill it perhaps an old pillow case stuffed with rags or the sand filled sock (or polystyrene ball balls or even bubble wrap) it will help you steady your aim and as you grow and your arms become more used to the gun that will also help you keep your aim steady Phantom Quote Link to post
tommygun166 0 Posted August 7, 2010 Author Report Share Posted August 7, 2010 Hi again Tom 70 to feet is not what we would call a long shot. Indeed our nominal safe range would be around 30 yards or so (roughly 100 feet) Great to see your not talking crud and you are being sensible regarding your ranges for your age well done young man I would deffinatly suggest you use a sock or a bag with something inside to fill it perhaps an old pillow case stuffed with rags or the sand filled sock (or polystyrene ball balls or even bubble wrap) it will help you steady your aim and as you grow and your arms become more used to the gun that will also help you keep your aim steady Phantom i ment 70 or yard not feet soz Quote Link to post
matt_hooks 188 Posted August 7, 2010 Report Share Posted August 7, 2010 Hi again Tom 70 to feet is not what we would call a long shot. Indeed our nominal safe range would be around 30 yards or so (roughly 100 feet) Great to see your not talking crud and you are being sensible regarding your ranges for your age well done young man I would deffinatly suggest you use a sock or a bag with something inside to fill it perhaps an old pillow case stuffed with rags or the sand filled sock (or polystyrene ball balls or even bubble wrap) it will help you steady your aim and as you grow and your arms become more used to the gun that will also help you keep your aim steady Phantom i ment 70 or yard not feet soz And the kid was doing SO well! An air rifle is not designed for those ranges. My .22LR is at the limit of it's useful range around there, and that has nearly 10 times the power of your average air rifle! Bring yourself back to a sensible hunting range. 35 to 40 yards is what most people would call sensible. If you can't get closer than yards then you need to work on your fieldcraft, or find a hide close to the warren. If you are taking shots at 70 or yards, then you are wasting your pellets. You might get the odd hit, but all you will do is piss mr bunny off, and have a wounded bunny running round, unless you get REALLY lucky! Quote Link to post
Phantom 631 Posted August 7, 2010 Report Share Posted August 7, 2010 Hi again Tom 70 to feet is not what we would call a long shot. Indeed our nominal safe range would be around 30 yards or so (roughly 100 feet) Great to see your not talking crud and you are being sensible regarding your ranges for your age well done young man I would deffinatly suggest you use a sock or a bag with something inside to fill it perhaps an old pillow case stuffed with rags or the sand filled sock (or polystyrene ball balls or even bubble wrap) it will help you steady your aim and as you grow and your arms become more used to the gun that will also help you keep your aim steady Phantom i ment 70 or yard not feet soz Looks like I spoke too soon. I use a PCP on a bipod running as close to the legal output limit as I dare. I have excellent Marksmanship skills (I don't like to blow my own trumpet, but at times it needs to be blown). I have absolutely no recoil to deal with; but I would never considder trying to shoot live quarry at that range Metal knockdowns and paper yes, they can't be injured! But a living animal will be As Matt says, air rifles are just not capable of those ranges Well they are if you are indoors on a range and shooting at 100 Gallon Oil Drums and all your after is a musical note! Bring your expectations back down to reality Tom All the best Phantom Quote Link to post
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