charging for your time

[rushty 1]

Love reading this part of the forum as it is much more layed back than other topics. Just wondering if it is acceptable to ask for payment for rat culling. When we started off shooting and killing rats with the terriers we were ( and still are) just happy enough to get some permission. One permission , for eg,which doesent lend itself to ratting with the dogs , we have taken over 150 rats since we startred in January with our guns and night scopes. However this meant many visits to the small holding as on averagge we take about 10 rats per night. As I drive a 3 litre petrol Subaru Outback ( 19 miles per gallon)and its a 25 mile round trip and pellets arent exactly cheap does any one think ( for new permissions) that it would be a tad cheeky to ask for some payment say for petrol or even a tin of pellets now and again as we must be saving them loads on poison .We are not pro pest controlers but we do a good job for people, but ofcourse we damn well enjoy it too , what do people think, cheers Ted

[Phantom 631]

I personally think if YOU asked them for shooting permission, then asking for payment is out of order

 

However if they have asked you to work for them, then its entirely up to you and the owner to come to an agreement.

 

I have 4 such permissions where I have been asked to Cull rather than me asking them. All have asked me how much I charge per hour or for the job and I have allways replied "I don't usually charge"

They then usually insist on paying for my ammunition, and I tell them the price of a tub of AAF's

One lady insisted that I take enough for a tub every time I have been. It took me a heck of a lot to persuade her that 500 pellets will kill a months or more bunnies.

 

 

Phantom

[rushty 1]

I personally think if YOU asked them for shooting permission, then asking for payment is out of order

 

However if they have asked you to work for them, then its entirely up to you and the owner to come to an agreement.

 

I have 4 such permissions where I have been asked to Cull rather than me asking them. All have asked me how much I charge per hour or for the job and I have allways replied "I don't usually charge"

They then usually insist on paying for my ammunition, and I tell them the price of a tub of AAF's

One lady insisted that I take enough for a tub every time I have been. It took me a heck of a lot to persuade her that 500 pellets will kill a months or more bunnies.

 

 

Phantom

Thanks for that Phantom, I agree with you all the way. I have been asked a couple of times how much I charge and replied that its all free , however I am being aske4d out about three times a week at the moment to people I have already said "its a free service" too and the petrol and pellet costs are mounting , christ I dont want a fortune just a bit toward the petrol would be wonderful, thanks again for reply.

[iamduvern 62]

I personally think if YOU asked them for shooting permission, then asking for payment is out of order

 

However if they have asked you to work for them, then its entirely up to you and the owner to come to an agreement.

 

I have 4 such permissions where I have been asked to Cull rather than me asking them. All have asked me how much I charge per hour or for the job and I have allways replied "I don't usually charge"

They then usually insist on paying for my ammunition, and I tell them the price of a tub of AAF's

One lady insisted that I take enough for a tub every time I  have been. It took me a heck of a lot to persuade her that 500 pellets will kill a months or more bunnies.

 

 

Phantom

Thanks for that Phantom, I agree with you all the way. I have been asked a couple of times how much I charge and replied that its all free , however I am being aske4d out about three times a week at the moment to people I have already said "its a free service" too and the petrol and pellet costs are mounting , christ I dont want a fortune just a bit toward the petrol would be wonderful, thanks again for reply.

Best thing you could do pal is to stay at home in the evenings or get a push bike Ive come across some tight gits on this site before but you take the biscuit your out 3/4 times a week and you expect payment!! for a "free service" You should think yourself lucky that you have places to shoot on

 

 

 

[pest hunter 151 15]

It took me 2 years to get permition and i think if you enjoy the shooting sport then you need to be willing to pay out like any sport.

 

 

Thanks PH1

[slingshot82 32]

I personally think if YOU asked them for shooting permission, then asking for payment is out of order

 

However if they have asked you to work for them, then its entirely up to you and the owner to come to an agreement.

 

I have 4 such permissions where I have been asked to Cull rather than me asking them. All have asked me how much I charge per hour or for the job and I have allways replied "I don't usually charge"

They then usually insist on paying for my ammunition, and I tell them the price of a tub of AAF's

One lady insisted that I take enough for a tub every time I  have been. It took me a heck of a lot to persuade her that 500 pellets will kill a months or more bunnies.

 

 

Phantom

Thanks for that Phantom, I agree with you all the way. I have been asked a couple of times how much I charge and replied that its all free , however I am being aske4d out about three times a week at the moment to people I have already said "its a free service" too and the petrol and pellet costs are mounting , christ I dont want a fortune just a bit toward the petrol would be wonderful, thanks again for reply.

Best thing you could do pal is to stay at home in the evenings or get a push bike Ive come across some tight gits on this site before but you take the biscuit your out 3/4 times a week and you expect payment!! for a "free service" You should think yourself lucky that you have places to shoot on

Well said .

 

If the car costs too much to run, maybe you should think about getting something more economical! The kind people who gave you the permission didnt choose the car for you, you chose it yourself.

Stop moaning and either get on with doing the job or give the permission up and let someone who might appreciate it do the job.

 

Sorry if you think these are harsh words but theres plenty of people would give anything for some permission!

 

Kyle

[Ron Weasley 83]

I agree with most of what's been said. It is unreasonable to charge for shooting. Even with your 10 rats a night, you're still not really eradicating the rat problem. I'm fortunate that I'm a professional pest controller, and occasionally, it is appropriate to charge for a shoot, but these are usually one off jobs for ferals trapped in a building, for example.

 

I've shot rats as part of my job too, but I usually fix a price for the job, and then ask if they mind if I shoot a few too - and I charge no extra, just do that for the enjoyment of it.

 

If your hobby was racing motorbikes, you wouldn't ask the track to pay for your tyres, would you?

[johnboy19 38]

As Phantom said, if they come to you and ask then thats a different story, charge them if you want. But for you to go to them, and then mention a fee, they will tell you where to go.

 

Best thing to do would be get a more economical car, and if there are a few of you, all put in for pellets and petrol. Apart from that, theres not much else you can do

 

John

[rushty 1]

I personally think if YOU asked them for shooting permission, then asking for payment is out of order

 

However if they have asked you to work for them, then its entirely up to you and the owner to come to an agreement.

 

I have 4 such permissions where I have been asked to Cull rather than me asking them. All have asked me how much I charge per hour or for the job and I have allways replied "I don't usually charge"

They then usually insist on paying for my ammunition, and I tell them the price of a tub of AAF's

One lady insisted that I take enough for a tub every time I  have been. It took me a heck of a lot to persuade her that 500 pellets will kill a months or more bunnies.

 

 

Phantom

Thanks for that Phantom, I agree with you all the way. I have been asked a couple of times how much I charge and replied that its all free , however I am being aske4d out about three times a week at the moment to people I have already said "its a free service" too and the petrol and pellet costs are mounting , christ I dont want a fortune just a bit toward the petrol would be wonderful, thanks again for reply.

Best thing you could do pal is to stay at home in the evenings or get a push bike Ive come across some tight gits on this site before but you take the biscuit your out 3/4 times a week and you expect payment!! for a "free service" You should think yourself lucky that you have places to shoot on

Thanks for that reply , I was just saying earlier how friendlier a site the "air Gun" part was and you come in with a reply like that.Just for the record I wont stay in at night and I wont buy a bike, and I am anything but a tight git , but thanks for your reply I guess I should have expected a comment like that somewhere down the line

[Bradford Lad 74]

Slingshot hits the nail on the head for me on this one, if you have to drive a fair few miles to your permission it makes sense to have a motor thats more econimical.The solution lies with you on this one mate

[silentshot1 206]

You might have opened a bit of a worm tin here, Rushty!

 

It's certainly an option to ask, but My Father in Law had a similar situation with two local guys who were shooting pigeons on the farm. After three weeks and claiming to have shot 150 birds in a day, he was asked to consider contributing towards the cost cartridges.

 

He declined swiftly and advised them that if their sport was proving cost prohibitive, perhaps they should refrain from continuing on his farm. The exact expression he used contained about 6 words! Now it's just me with the trusty Air Gun allowed.

 

If you are prepared to ask, then you should also be prepared for either positive or negative outcomes.

 

Would be interested to find out what happens as it's clearly a contentious issue. Good luck with what you decide either way!

[Phantom 631]

Wait a minute!!!! Hang on there guy's,

 

Rushty asked a simple question, no need really to jump down his throat!

 

Rushty, if they are calling you out and your not doing it "As and When YOU feel like it", then I think that you would be perfectly justified in raising the issue with the person calling you out REGARDLESS of engine size!

 

Gently tell them, that you will have to ease off on the number of visits you can make it due to the cost and your own time constraints. Perhaps tell them, that you would rather call round once a week or a fortnight and spend more time in one session than making multiple trips.

 

I am sure the land owner will:-

1/. Understand and agree with you,

2/. Understand and offer to pay towards the cost of fuel

3/. say you know what, I didn't think of it like that, you are saving me a fortune so I'll chip in a bit or finally

4/. tell you to take a long walk of a short plank, but I really can't see number 4 happening

 

Now come on guy's remember your manners; there are more and more people saying that this is THE freindliest and most inspiring part of the board; where advice, even repetative basic advice is freely offered without a whinge from the regs.

 

Now play nice and keep it that way eh?

 

Phantom

[rushty 1]

Wait a minute!!!! Hang on there guy's,

 

Rushty asked a simple question, no need really to jump down his throat!

 

Rushty, if they are calling you out and your not doing it "As and When YOU feel like it", then I think that you would be perfectly justified in raising the issue with the person calling you out REGARDLESS of engine size!

 

Gently tell them, that you will have to ease off on the number of visits you can make it due to the cost and your own time constraints. Perhaps tell them, that you would rather call round once a week or a fortnight and spend more time in one session than making multiple trips.

 

I am sure the land owner will:-

1/. Understand and agree with you,

2/. Understand and offer to pay towards the cost of fuel

3/. say you know what, I didn't think of it like that, you are saving me a fortune so I'll chip in a bit or finally

4/. tell you to take a long walk of a short plank, but I really can't see number 4 happening

 

Now come on guy's remember your manners; there are more and more people saying that this is THE freindliest and most inspiring part of the board; where advice, even repetative basic advice is freely offered without a whinge from the regs.

 

Now play nice and keep it that way eh?

 

Phantom

Thanks again Phantom , youre reply makes lots of sense . I would never ask any one to pay for permission I asked for , its just that word has got around a bit and a few people are contacting me ( probs cos its for free) . Anyhow re the car , it was left to me from my Dad so I wont be getting rid ( and wont wing bout mpg again) at least not on here, thanks everybody,

[tdesnos 6]

The difference between work and leisure is that one has people expecting things from you and the other doesn't. If you have a hobby that your passionate about and permission you're lucky, don't ruin it with thoughts of turning it into a job/ paid hobby. It'll get ugly. This is just my own opinion mate, but i say: DON'T EVEN THINK ABOUT IT

 

You never appreciate something until it's gone. By a more economical car and enjoy what you have mate.

 

Of course, i'm a thick t**t too, i'm just giving you my personal opinion

[falcongit 242]

<BR>The difference between work and leisure is that one has people expecting things from you and the other doesn't. If you have a hobby that your passionate about and permission you're lucky, don't ruin it with thoughts of turning it into a job/ paid hobby. It'll get ugly. This is just my own opinion mate, but i say: DON'T EVEN THINK ABOUT IT  <IMG class=bbc_emoticon alt= src="http://www.thehuntinglife.com/forums/public/style_emoticons/default/no.gif">  <BR><BR>You never appreciate something until it's gone. By a more economical car and enjoy what you have mate.  <IMG class=bbc_emoticon alt= src="http://www.thehuntinglife.com/forums/public/style_emoticons/default/yes.gif"> <BR><BR>Of course, i'm a thick t**t too, i'm just giving you my personal opinion  <IMG class=bbc_emoticon alt= src="http://www.thehuntinglife.com/forums/public/style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif"><BR>

<BR><BR><BR>yes i agree with you there tdesnos,its hard to get permission mate....

 

sym

Edited August 6, 2010 by falcongit