alexcjacko 1 Posted August 4, 2010 Report Share Posted August 4, 2010 anyone train there lurcher to whistle,be it just recall or the whole thing? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
matmorgan 49 Posted August 4, 2010 Report Share Posted August 4, 2010 anyone train there lurcher to whistle,be it just recall or the whole thing? yeah.train mine to the whistle. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Born Hunter 17,788 Posted August 4, 2010 Report Share Posted August 4, 2010 3 pips for a 'recall' and 1 pip for 'turn'. the turn whistle command is a new one and one im still working on, coming on steady though. They're not spaniels so obviously have their limitations but non the less more than capable. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
matmorgan 49 Posted August 4, 2010 Report Share Posted August 4, 2010 dont through pips at em mate.waiste of apples and will wear out your arm.whistle is good though. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Guest deerhound hunter Posted August 4, 2010 Report Share Posted August 4, 2010 you don,t need that many commands for working lurcher ,the whistle is the ulimate command to a working dog as when its working ,the less noise the better ,but when on the lamp i flicker the lamp on the ground for a few times i don.t whistle as it may scare your prey off ,try to stick to basic commands as you.ll confuse the dog Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Born Hunter 17,788 Posted August 4, 2010 Report Share Posted August 4, 2010 you don,t need that many commands for working lurcher ,the whistle is the ulimate command to a working dog as when its working ,the less noise the better ,but when on the lamp i flicker the lamp on the ground for a few times i don.t whistle as it may scare your prey off ,try to stick to basic commands as you.ll confuse the dog Im not talking about working the dog with the whistle on the lamp, that would be daft. Im talking about day time, its usefull to be able to turn your dog when its hunting about. But thats just my way, im far from an 'expert'. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Guest deerhound hunter Posted August 4, 2010 Report Share Posted August 4, 2010 did you put this post on ,was,nt talking to you talking to the person who put this on so let the lad decide weather this information is any good for him..... ok Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Born Hunter 17,788 Posted August 4, 2010 Report Share Posted August 4, 2010 did you put this post on ,was,nt talking to you talking to the person who put this on so let the lad decide weather this information is any good for him..... ok alright, but seeing as i was the only one that said how many commands i use i naturally assumed your post was aimed at me. Now i understand the context i completely agree with you. Happy? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Guest deerhound hunter Posted August 4, 2010 Report Share Posted August 4, 2010 things can easily be takeing out of context on this site mate not 2 worry Quote Link to post Share on other sites
stroller 341 Posted August 5, 2010 Report Share Posted August 5, 2010 i use a whistle with the lurchers, but i have a gundog background and find its best to have them all on the same commands. i dont know how true its is about lurchers only needing a few commands though i suppose it depends on the work they do a lamping dog needs to run catch and return, day time dogs need to hunt up, respond to hand signals, they need to stay or wait at a hedge or fence before entering another field without you, sit and down are always handy, heel is great when walking between sets, getting a positive mark at a set is brilliant, jumping is a must when you have a box and nets and half a dozen rabbits, i teach mine to go through fences if there is a gap, retrieve is a must, and securing a bolt is a must for me cos im not very quick when it comes to picking netted rabbits (Arthritis in my spine)leaving dead rabbits alone is good.i suppose a good ferreting dog takes a lot of training compared to a catch dog Quote Link to post Share on other sites
lurchergrrl 1,441 Posted August 6, 2010 Report Share Posted August 6, 2010 I use a whistle but only for recall 'cause I can't be arsed with shouting when they're a mile away And mine learned it because we walk with pointers who recall to whistle so it was easy enough to get them to understand what I wanted for 2 pips. Stroller and BH would you care to share some of your tips for training to a whistle? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
alexcjacko 1 Posted August 6, 2010 Author Report Share Posted August 6, 2010 i brought in the whistle when i had voice recall bang on,the way i got him coming to whistle is lie him down make him stay the 2 peeps on the whistle and voice after then make a massive fuss,dont know if this is the way anyone else does it?is it better to start off young? or bring in the whistlewhen they are older? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
lurchergrrl 1,441 Posted August 6, 2010 Report Share Posted August 6, 2010 Mine were older AJ, but since they sort of understood it from being out with their mates I just started in the house. Pip twice, give a treat. Once they equated pips with treats I moved on. Pip from another room, lots of praise when they arrived. Pip in the garden, praise. Etc etc. They're fair good when we're out now. Didn't take them long to suss it at all. But I still struggle with anything beyond recall with the whistle, and my hand command attempts didn't get far either. It's not the dogs who don't get it, it's me Quote Link to post Share on other sites
poacher3161 1,766 Posted August 6, 2010 Report Share Posted August 6, 2010 All my dogs are trained to the recall on a 210 n half gundog whistle a couple of pips on one dosent carry like the human voice does atracting unwanted attention in some cases. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
romany52 313 Posted August 6, 2010 Report Share Posted August 6, 2010 The whistle signals I use are , Long peep = drop and stay, 2 pips = get on, 1 pip = turn (used when quartering) and a long pip pip pip pip for recall, Reason I use multiple pips for recall is, sometimes for long distances or in places that have an echo the dog doesn't always get the right direction on a short signal and may well set of in the wrong direction, if it sets off in the wrong direction with a longer recall signal it realises the sound is diminishing rather than getting louder so will right itself. Mike. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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