got Patterdale, will travel!

[gotPatterdale? 1]

Hey everyone!

Just joining to try and find some hunting partners. I have a Patterdale Terrier that I'm looking to start up. Will be browsing the forums shorty, a friend of mine suggested I try here to find some hunting partners (beagles, jack russels, rat terriers) I'm looking for working dogs, not showdogs so if you know anyone in the Pacific NW send them my way! Otherwise, good to be here

 

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[gotPatterdale? 1]

Hey everyone!

Just joining to try and find some hunting partners. I have a Patterdale Terrier that I'm looking to start up. Will be browsing the forums shorty, a friend of mine suggested I try here to find some hunting partners (beagles, jack russels, rat terriers) I'm looking for working dogs, not showdogs so if you know anyone in the Pacific NW send them my way! Otherwise, good to be here

 

B

 

Here's his pedigree. He's from Todd Fulford aka Deadgame Patterdales in West Virginia, USA

 

 

Kind Regards,

 

B

Edited August 4, 2010 by gotPatterdale?

[gotPatterdale? 1]

<BR>good luck.. and nice dog<BR><BR>hopefully not too long u will meet up with guys from ur area in USA and go diggin with them<BR>

 

I'm working on it! It is harder than it sounds... LOL. New picture from today. He's shaping up nicely. 14lbs @ 6.25 months old.

 

Regards,

 

B

Edited August 5, 2010 by gotPatterdale?

[STUNTMAN 552]

GP-Thats a monster! what was the plan on hunting him? He's not going to fit in any American earths, mabey just barn or house hunting.

[gotPatterdale? 1]

He's chunky now... you think he's going to be that big?? He was the second smallest dog in the litter. His dad is 11" tall and 15 lbs. Most small breeds might put on a lb or two after 6 months but nothing excessive. Have you ever seen a small dog growth chart? I expect him to be 15-16lbs and under a foot tall at the shoulders. Plenty small enough to get into the ground.

 

Regards,

 

B

Edited August 6, 2010 by gotPatterdale?

[gotPatterdale? 1]

He's chunky now... you think he's going to be that big?? He was the second smallest dog in the litter. His dad is 11" tall and 15 lbs. Most small breeds might put on a lb or two after 6 months but nothing excessive. Have you ever seen a small dog growth chart? I expect him to be 15-16lbs and under a foot tall at the shoulders. Plenty small enough to get into the ground.

 

Regards,

 

B

 

mine was 9kg at 6 months and at 12 months now he is still 9 kg sometimes 9.5kg.

 

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That's what I've heard from everyone with small dogs. I think he'll be set. He's honestly chunky but I always like my pups to have enough calories so they aren't in deficit. I think he'll be under 16 lbs... maybe even right at 14 but more muscle and less fat. Thanks for the info masta of game Stuntman had me worrying for a second but I just double checked everything and I'm sure he's going to be perfect for the holes on this side of the pond!

 

Kind Regards,

 

B

[STUNTMAN 552]

B-. At 16lbs he's at the upper end of the limit for earth work in America now. By the time he's 2 and has reached his max and has squared off he’ll be 18lbs easy. I never hunted Nutria but so can’t comment on what size dog you need for that in Washington, but for fox, coon in the ground it will be a tough road ahead for him and allot of digging for you. Good luck with him> Stunt.

[specktacular007 2]

I think Stunt is right.....I have a Gould bred male that I raised and I weighed him at 6 months old and he was 13 lbs. now at 14 months he is every bit of 17-18 lb.....Very trim built dog but still bigger than I like to keep but still very useable for most nutria setts and coon in brushpiles,barns, houses etc.....But, I also LOVE to chuck hunt as it is very challenging for the dog and a 18 lb. dog WILL NOT consistantly get on chucks in those tight earths no matter how much drive the dog has so I keep several smaller dogs for chucks......Hopefully your dogs growth slows down but if it doesn't coon and nutria are still good game to get after.

Edited August 7, 2010 by specktacular007

[ratkilla 35]

Stuntman whats the limit exactly ? i've seen a 15inch terrier dug to a load of times in america probly in earths where shit 11inch culls that alot of americans own wouldnt of been dug in.

[BAD BOB 27]

GP, good luck with the pup. he has a nice head on him.i would also guess in the 16 to 18 lb weight range

[Tiff 36]

B you live in a difficult area, you will have to do some driving to hook up with any working folks. When we lived in Nevada it wasn't unusual to drive 10-20-30 hours each way to go digging, no joke. The running dogs were a different thing, we could drive 20 minutes and run out of dogs before we ran out of things to run.

 

a dog can weigh 14 pounds when it is sitting in a kennel doing nothing other than "looking" good, and weigh 20+ pounds when it is in good substantial working condition. So don't get hung up on a dogs size, it is its drive and desire to get to its quarry, at any cost, that matters.

[Kye 77]

There is NO size limit to a terrier, and no one can say how much game you can or can not get with one of any given size...sure, if your digging Chucks, you would want 10-13" dogs that are 10-13lbs,...but ive dug Chucks with 16" and 23lbs dogs...the problem is, MOST people over here have never seen a good terrier, with a good amount of drive, and so exspect less...when they dont get game with 12" dogs, they think the dogs to big, and breed 10" dogs...when realy they should just cull that shit, and get some dogs with some drive...

[STUNTMAN 552]

Rat- Just one? In just 1 part of the States? I've dug all over with 100s of terriers in several parts of the country except the Western states on differnt game. I've dug to "15- 19lb dogs right down to "9-6lb dogs.Your right I've seen big terriers that can get there but not every time on every set.Even seen a few High drive "Big Terrier" die because they couldnt fit. As far as culls go I dont think America holds the corner market on them they are ALL over my friend.

Stuntman whats the limit exactly ? i've seen a 15inch terrier dug to a load of times in america probly in earths where shit 11inch culls that alot of americans own wouldnt of been dug in.

 

 

There is NO size limit to a terrier, and no one can say how much game you can or can not get with one of any given size...sure, if your digging Chucks, you would want 10-13" dogs that are 10-13lbs,...but ive dug Chucks with 16" and 23lbs dogs...the problem is, MOST people over here have never seen a good terrier, with a good amount of drive, and so exspect less...when they dont get game with 12" dogs, they think the dogs to big, and breed 10" dogs...when realy they should just cull that shit, and get some dogs with some drive...

Kye-good valid points-I feel that there are exceptions to every rule, like all you ever hear is about the guy who won at the casino, never about the guy who dropped 10k lol. Size is Size , you cant get a "2 pipe inside a "1 1/4. I'm one not for digging up and opening at every bend in the tube to let the terrier get on either. I have a Lakie here at the moment {big} high drive. He'll mark and dig and try to push in but he aint getting it done even if I'm stepping on his ass

[gotPatterdale? 1]

I appreciate the comments and feedback. I'm not new to working dogs. I've culled my fair share of non-capable workers. I've owned gamedog extensively over the past 10 years. I had to move from my house in the country on acres to the city where I can't keep a yard of bulldogs. I'm just having a VERY tough time meeting people that work these little dogs. I'm on the yuppie liberal side of the mountains in my state unfortunately. I have a lead on a JRT hunting club and am awaiting a call back. I know they hunt in some rural areas around here but mostly 2-3+ hours away on the other side of the mountains where there is nothing but thousands of acres of farms. I'm interested to see how this young dog shapes up. His prey drive is very high and we spend a lot of time with a flirt pole. He's already dug a few holes in the rockwall in my back yard. I see good signs but am in no hurry to ruin him. I know all about waiting with my previous experiences. Thanks for the comments and keep them coming!

 

Regards,

 

B