dog put to sleep

[Guest Buttermilk]

Very sorry to hear this.

Edited August 3, 2010 by Buttermilk

[Guest stewie]

Bronco was a bullx 3/8 5/8. We got him at the same time as we got the saluikx... He never really got going till he was about 12mth old but when he did, he became a useful "tool" in every sense. He was great on larger stuff, and was also a lovely pleasant dog to have around.... I did all the training from when he was about 12 weeks right through till he was about 12months.. Then my then partner(DOGGING) got Billy the 28" bullx and took them both away to live on a farm..

 

I could see it going down hill from here on in. And they only ever went out after dark. Ok, thats what bronco was good at. Then the walking slowed down and he was kennelLed a hell of alot.... And moved about... i tryed to rehome him a few times, even loftie off here had a go at him, but his recall had failed and he would chuck a deaf one, we both agreed he wasnt the dog for loftie....

 

The story comes to abrupt end, when last week he nailed 2 sheep, then another 2 of sunday, this was he last outing. As he was taken to the farm were he was put to sleep....

 

He had gone to far. But to me it wasnt his fault. The dog had gone stare crazy, not been run, walked and was only venting frustration and wanted to kill, like any lurcher.. The training had all but gone, and he had in no time become an unruley dog... I was gutted and still am, so is loftie his missus and my missus as he was a real dog at one time, he would have been 3 in november, so he had a short and troubled life... Lurchers must be treated with respect, and the faith they have in other is se3cond to none... When they are gone it is to late.... RIP BRONCO...

i think you should sort yourself out mate stock breaking is f*****g simple and standard to any lurcherman you failed the dog and its your fault it if you cared about the dog you would of made sure it never come to this you should be ashamed of yourself and give up dogs as if you have not completely stock broke a dog in 9 months of training you obviously know f**k all :no: RIP bronco shame you ended up with a clown :doh:

Edited August 3, 2010 by stewie

[Lab 10,979]

A bit harsh that........the dog was only 12 months when it went to someone else so it was up to them to keep that training going, sounds like they didn't

[Guest stewie]

A bit harsh that........the dog was only 12 months when it went to someone else so it was up to them to keep that training going, sounds like they didn't

so you wouldnt expect a lab to be fully stock broke by 12 months??? mine are round stock from day one to learn the difference of right and wrong and what to hunt or not its basic stockmanship rfyl ive got no sympathy for you i just feel sorry for the dog that you failed to train properly and died as YOU f****d UP

[Lab 10,979]

A bit harsh that........the dog was only 12 months when it went to someone else so it was up to them to keep that training going, sounds like they didn't

so you wouldnt expect a lab to be fully stock broke by 12 months??? mine are round stock from day one to learn the difference of right and wrong and what to hunt or not its basic stockmanship rfyl ive got no sympathy for you i just feel sorry for the dog that you failed to train properly and died as YOU f****d UP

I wouldn't expect any dog to be full trained by 12 months....i dont start any serious training till 9 months. Dogs should be allowed there puppy years. Granted i dont train running dogs and there time scale may differ'..? You would be completely 100% sure that if you gave a dog away at 12 months that it would never look at livestock, doubt it mate

I reckon in the wrong hands a dog at that age could soon change its ways!!

[Guest fence_hopper]

tidy dog. shame that would of been a real good un in the right hands..rip bronco

[Guest fence_hopper]

A bit harsh that........the dog was only 12 months when it went to someone else so it was up to them to keep that training going, sounds like they didn't

so you wouldnt expect a lab to be fully stock broke by 12 months??? mine are round stock from day one to learn the difference of right and wrong and what to hunt or not its basic stockmanship rfyl ive got no sympathy for you i just feel sorry for the dog that you failed to train properly and died as YOU f****d UP

I wouldn't expect any dog to be full trained by 12 months....i dont start any serious training till 9 months. Dogs should be allowed there puppy years. Granted i dont train running dogs and there time scale may differ'..? You would be completely 100% sure that if you gave a dog away at 12 months that it would never look at livestock, doubt it mate

I reckon in the wrong hands a dog at that age could soon change its ways!!

 

 

stick to your labs you div. you can train a lurcher pup to retrieve from 6 weeks old, you stick to yours and we'll stick to ours

[Lab 10,979]

A bit harsh that........the dog was only 12 months when it went to someone else so it was up to them to keep that training going, sounds like they didn't

so you wouldnt expect a lab to be fully stock broke by 12 months??? mine are round stock from day one to learn the difference of right and wrong and what to hunt or not its basic stockmanship rfyl ive got no sympathy for you i just feel sorry for the dog that you failed to train properly and died as YOU f****d UP

I wouldn't expect any dog to be full trained by 12 months....i dont start any serious training till 9 months. Dogs should be allowed there puppy years. Granted i dont train running dogs and there time scale may differ'..? You would be completely 100% sure that if you gave a dog away at 12 months that it would never look at livestock, doubt it mate

I reckon in the wrong hands a dog at that age could soon change its ways!!

 

 

stick to your labs you div. you can train a lurcher pup to retrieve from 6 weeks old, you stick to yours and we'll stick to ours

Must be my turn tonight then is it...........get tae f**k

[Guest stewie]

A bit harsh that........the dog was only 12 months when it went to someone else so it was up to them to keep that training going, sounds like they didn't

so you wouldnt expect a lab to be fully stock broke by 12 months??? mine are round stock from day one to learn the difference of right and wrong and what to hunt or not its basic stockmanship rfyl ive got no sympathy for you i just feel sorry for the dog that you failed to train properly and died as YOU f****d UP

I wouldn't expect any dog to be full trained by 12 months....i dont start any serious training till 9 months. Dogs should be allowed there puppy years. Granted i dont train running dogs and there time scale may differ'..? You would be completely 100% sure that if you gave a dog away at 12 months that it would never look at livestock, doubt it mate

I reckon in the wrong hands a dog at that age could soon change its ways!!

lol i never said fully trained did i!!! stock breaking is the 1st thing you teach any dog imo and so easily done and yes if i gave a dog away at 12 months (which i wouldnt!!) then it would be stock broke its basic school boy stuff that true dog men class as standard a lab could be took out as a picking up dog in training at 12 months if it coincides with the season and one that isnt stock broke would be a fecking nightmare

[Lab 10,979]

A bit harsh that........the dog was only 12 months when it went to someone else so it was up to them to keep that training going, sounds like they didn't

so you wouldnt expect a lab to be fully stock broke by 12 months??? mine are round stock from day one to learn the difference of right and wrong and what to hunt or not its basic stockmanship rfyl ive got no sympathy for you i just feel sorry for the dog that you failed to train properly and died as YOU f****d UP

I wouldn't expect any dog to be full trained by 12 months....i dont start any serious training till 9 months. Dogs should be allowed there puppy years. Granted i dont train running dogs and there time scale may differ'..? You would be completely 100% sure that if you gave a dog away at 12 months that it would never look at livestock, doubt it mate

I reckon in the wrong hands a dog at that age could soon change its ways!!

lol i never said fully trained did i!!! stock breaking is the 1st thing you teach any dog imo and so easily done and yes if i gave a dog away at 12 months (which i wouldnt!!) then it would be stock broke its basic school boy stuff that true dog men class as standard a lab could be took out as a picking up dog in training at 12 months if it coincides with the season and one that isnt stock broke would be a fecking nightmare

Stock breaking wouldn't even enter a lab trainers mind mate, its not in them to chase. If there was a problem then yes it would be dealt with. I will be taking my to young pups to the picking up this season for a look and maybe a few easy retrieves as they have been doing it with ease for months now.

Do you think when a lurcher is trained correctly it will not change its ways in the hands of others. Cheers for keeping it friendly mate(unlike others), its good to learn new stuff

[Guest stewie]

A bit harsh that........the dog was only 12 months when it went to someone else so it was up to them to keep that training going, sounds like they didn't

so you wouldnt expect a lab to be fully stock broke by 12 months??? mine are round stock from day one to learn the difference of right and wrong and what to hunt or not its basic stockmanship rfyl ive got no sympathy for you i just feel sorry for the dog that you failed to train properly and died as YOU f****d UP

I wouldn't expect any dog to be full trained by 12 months....i dont start any serious training till 9 months. Dogs should be allowed there puppy years. Granted i dont train running dogs and there time scale may differ'..? You would be completely 100% sure that if you gave a dog away at 12 months that it would never look at livestock, doubt it mate

I reckon in the wrong hands a dog at that age could soon change its ways!!

lol i never said fully trained did i!!! stock breaking is the 1st thing you teach any dog imo and so easily done and yes if i gave a dog away at 12 months (which i wouldnt!!) then it would be stock broke its basic school boy stuff that true dog men class as standard a lab could be took out as a picking up dog in training at 12 months if it coincides with the season and one that isnt stock broke would be a fecking nightmare

Stock breaking wouldn't even enter a lab trainers mind mate, its not in them to chase. If there was a problem then yes it would be dealt with. I will be taking my to young pups to the picking up this season for a look and maybe a few easy retrieves as they have been doing it with ease for months now.

Do you think when a lurcher is trained correctly it will not change its ways in the hands of others. Cheers for keeping it friendly mate(unlike others), its good to learn new stuff

any dog will kill sheep if not stock broken and deep down you know it!!!! labs are as game as a bull cross for killing sheep if not brought up correctly its just getting the balance right that makes the difference. labs in the wrong hands are as much of a fecking liabilty as a lurcher is in the wrong hands

[Lab 10,979]

A bit harsh that........the dog was only 12 months when it went to someone else so it was up to them to keep that training going, sounds like they didn't

so you wouldnt expect a lab to be fully stock broke by 12 months??? mine are round stock from day one to learn the difference of right and wrong and what to hunt or not its basic stockmanship rfyl ive got no sympathy for you i just feel sorry for the dog that you failed to train properly and died as YOU f****d UP

I wouldn't expect any dog to be full trained by 12 months....i dont start any serious training till 9 months. Dogs should be allowed there puppy years. Granted i dont train running dogs and there time scale may differ'..? You would be completely 100% sure that if you gave a dog away at 12 months that it would never look at livestock, doubt it mate

I reckon in the wrong hands a dog at that age could soon change its ways!!

lol i never said fully trained did i!!! stock breaking is the 1st thing you teach any dog imo and so easily done and yes if i gave a dog away at 12 months (which i wouldnt!!) then it would be stock broke its basic school boy stuff that true dog men class as standard a lab could be took out as a picking up dog in training at 12 months if it coincides with the season and one that isnt stock broke would be a fecking nightmare

Stock breaking wouldn't even enter a lab trainers mind mate, its not in them to chase. If there was a problem then yes it would be dealt with. I will be taking my to young pups to the picking up this season for a look and maybe a few easy retrieves as they have been doing it with ease for months now.

Do you think when a lurcher is trained correctly it will not change its ways in the hands of others. Cheers for keeping it friendly mate(unlike others), its good to learn new stuff

any dog will kill sheep if not stock broken and deep down you know it!!!! labs are as game as a bull cross for killing sheep if not brought up correctly its just getting the balance right that makes the difference. labs in the wrong hands are as much of a fecking liabilty as a lurcher is in the wrong hands

Agree that any dog can be trained not to chase and kill livestock mate but what i am saying is its not needed when training a lab. A lurcher is trained to chase and instincts kick in, obviously why they need stern training in livestock. The reason i asked you about the dog changing its ways as i've seen it lots of times in the lab world. Somebody buys a fully trained dog and has it f****d in a few months, useless b*****ds in my book.

[Ideation 8,216]

f*****g hell . . . . . someone been taking roids or something? Why all the aggression? No matter how much you train a dog and how well trained it is at one time - two years is a long time and a lot of things can get broken down over that time. a 12 month old dog is still very young. Stewie - you give me a dog that you have made 100% stock broken at 12 months old and i could have it killing sheep within a short space of time if desired. It's a dog.

[Guest stewie]

A bit harsh that........the dog was only 12 months when it went to someone else so it was up to them to keep that training going, sounds like they didn't

so you wouldnt expect a lab to be fully stock broke by 12 months??? mine are round stock from day one to learn the difference of right and wrong and what to hunt or not its basic stockmanship rfyl ive got no sympathy for you i just feel sorry for the dog that you failed to train properly and died as YOU f****d UP

I wouldn't expect any dog to be full trained by 12 months....i dont start any serious training till 9 months. Dogs should be allowed there puppy years. Granted i dont train running dogs and there time scale may differ'..? You would be completely 100% sure that if you gave a dog away at 12 months that it would never look at livestock, doubt it mate

I reckon in the wrong hands a dog at that age could soon change its ways!!

lol i never said fully trained did i!!! stock breaking is the 1st thing you teach any dog imo and so easily done and yes if i gave a dog away at 12 months (which i wouldnt!!) then it would be stock broke its basic school boy stuff that true dog men class as standard a lab could be took out as a picking up dog in training at 12 months if it coincides with the season and one that isnt stock broke would be a fecking nightmare

Stock breaking wouldn't even enter a lab trainers mind mate, its not in them to chase. If there was a problem then yes it would be dealt with. I will be taking my to young pups to the picking up this season for a look and maybe a few easy retrieves as they have been doing it with ease for months now.

Do you think when a lurcher is trained correctly it will not change its ways in the hands of others. Cheers for keeping it friendly mate(unlike others), its good to learn new stuff

any dog will kill sheep if not stock broken and deep down you know it!!!! labs are as game as a bull cross for killing sheep if not brought up correctly its just getting the balance right that makes the difference. labs in the wrong hands are as much of a fecking liabilty as a lurcher is in the wrong hands

Agree that any dog can be trained to chase and kill livestock mate but what i am saying is its not needed when training a lab. A lurcher is trained to chase and instincts kick in, obviously why they need stern training in livestock. The reason i asked you about the dog changing its ways as i've seen it lots of times in the lab world. Somebody buys a fully trained dog and has it f****d in a few months, useless b*****ds in my book.

lol never mentioned dogs being trained to kill live stock mate same instincts can easily kick in with a lab!!! my bull cross wont even look at sheep but can see where this thread is going so

[jac 12]

very sad story. and a lovely dog. what a pitty. you must miss him alot