ScottChimbur 0 Posted August 1, 2010 Report Share Posted August 1, 2010 is it best to breed ferrets on the 2nd breck ? Quote Link to post
Bobo 135 Posted August 1, 2010 Report Share Posted August 1, 2010 is it best to breed ferrets on the 2nd breck ? Don't you be worrying about breeding ferrets,you're only just getting into them.Theres far too many ferrets bred every year as it is. Quote Link to post
ScottChimbur 0 Posted August 1, 2010 Author Report Share Posted August 1, 2010 a want to no cause someone sayd to me if i dont breed my jill on hur 1st break she will die with the winter coming in season Quote Link to post
Bobo 135 Posted August 1, 2010 Report Share Posted August 1, 2010 a want to no cause someone sayd to me if i dont breed my jill on hur 1st break she will die with the winter coming in season Thats rubbish,if you want her out of season get her the jill jab at the vet or find someone with a vasectomised hob you could use. Don't breed her. Quote Link to post
Kay 3,709 Posted August 1, 2010 Report Share Posted August 1, 2010 Ferrets arnt like dogs ... they come into season & stay in season untill there brought out.. as already pointed out theres been 1000's bred this year so i would simply enjoy your ferrets & find a suitable method to bring the jill out of season when its needed Quote Link to post
The one 8,485 Posted August 2, 2010 Report Share Posted August 2, 2010 Same as Bobo if your going to breed your ferret wait till the second season to see if she makes the grade ,The question you should be asking is ,Is my jill a good enough worker to breed from. If not theres snipped hobs the jill jab etc , There far to many kits as it is ,and if your just getting into ferrets you should have looked at these options Quote Link to post
tote 856 Posted August 2, 2010 Report Share Posted August 2, 2010 a want to no cause someone sayd to me if i dont breed my jill on hur 1st break she will die with the winter coming in season Do you believe everything you're told mate? Whoever gave you the above information lives in cloud cuckoo land. To be honest this topic has been done to death over the last few months if not years and if you do a forum search you'll find a lot of different opinions on the subject. I like many others have had Jills remain in season and haven't had one die on me, my current Jill is 3, she's never had a litter and never been taken out of season, so it must be a miracle that she's alive going by some of the things you read on here. At the end of the day you have to make the decision of what to do when your Jill breaks, if you want or need kits breed from her. If you don't you still have options, she can remain in season or you can have her served by a blank firing hob or there is the Jill jab, the choice is yours. But to be told "if i dont breed my jill on hur 1st break she will die " I would hazzard a guess that you've been speaking to someone that's been on too many forums and has little practicle experience. Quote Link to post
Ideation 8,216 Posted August 2, 2010 Report Share Posted August 2, 2010 I wouldn't even be trying to decide if the jill was good at her job until the end of her third working season. Let a lone breed from her. Quote Link to post
ferretertom 7 Posted August 2, 2010 Report Share Posted August 2, 2010 Dont breed it or leave it in season sometimes you can get away with it but theres a risk you wont. Quote Link to post
tote 856 Posted August 3, 2010 Report Share Posted August 3, 2010 Dont breed it or leave it in season sometimes you can get away with it but theres a risk you wont. "Sometimes you can get away with it", your words mate so I'll ask you the same as I asked others,- have you or do you know of anyone who has carried out any experiments regarding breeding, leaving in season and using a blank hob or the jill jab? I would be interested to hear of the results? If you don't know of any how can you write the above? Not having a go just wondering how you came to your conclusions. Quote Link to post
Ideation 8,216 Posted August 3, 2010 Report Share Posted August 3, 2010 Dont breed it or leave it in season sometimes you can get away with it but theres a risk you wont. "Sometimes you can get away with it", your words mate so I'll ask you the same as I asked others,- have you or do you know of anyone who has carried out any experiments regarding breeding, leaving in season and using a blank hob or the jill jab? I would be interested to hear of the results? If you don't know of any how can you write the above? Not having a go just wondering how you came to your conclusions. From what i have seen breeding is the best option with regards to health. . .. . but obviously thats a thing you should be doing rarely, so the second best option is a vac hob. Quote Link to post
tote 856 Posted August 3, 2010 Report Share Posted August 3, 2010 Dont breed it or leave it in season sometimes you can get away with it but theres a risk you wont. "Sometimes you can get away with it", your words mate so I'll ask you the same as I asked others,- have you or do you know of anyone who has carried out any experiments regarding breeding, leaving in season and using a blank hob or the jill jab? I would be interested to hear of the results? If you don't know of any how can you write the above? Not having a go just wondering how you came to your conclusions. From what i have seen breeding is the best option with regards to health. . .. . but obviously thats a thing you should be doing rarely, so the second best option is a vac hob. Thanks for the reply mate, can I ask you what you base your answers on? Again I'm not having a go just hoping that someone might have some proof that the best option is indeed this or that. Quote Link to post
Ideation 8,216 Posted August 3, 2010 Report Share Posted August 3, 2010 Dont breed it or leave it in season sometimes you can get away with it but theres a risk you wont. "Sometimes you can get away with it", your words mate so I'll ask you the same as I asked others,- have you or do you know of anyone who has carried out any experiments regarding breeding, leaving in season and using a blank hob or the jill jab? I would be interested to hear of the results? If you don't know of any how can you write the above? Not having a go just wondering how you came to your conclusions. From what i have seen breeding is the best option with regards to health. . .. . but obviously thats a thing you should be doing rarely, so the second best option is a vac hob. Thanks for the reply mate, can I ask you what you base your answers on? Again I'm not having a go just hoping that someone might have some proof that the best option is indeed this or that. No problem - i haven't exactly done a comprehensive study, but it's based upon a few generations of ferret keeping in the family and looking at the transition of methods used. One thing i will say first however is that some ferrets seem to defy rules, it seems that they are very individual. For example, plenty of ferrets in my great grandfathers time lived to old age on bread and milk and always being left in season. However from what i have seen some ferrets do godown hill if left in season for several years, i have seen jills just kind of waste away, they just become weaker and eventually fade away. It also seems to affect their immune system. Also there is the associated risk due to the area being swollen and open to infection. With regards to the jill jab which i have now decided i will never use again, i have noticed that in many ferrets it creates some kind of hormonal inbalance which effects them mentally, this is from observing them living in groups where the jills who were jabbed become a bit erratic, like their body is sending out really confusing signals, and they are not sure where they are at, some become aggressive, some start to over mother the other adult ferrets, some stop eating. The jab also hurts like a f****r. They also seem to suffer from hair loss more. Obviously in all of this many ferrets are not affected. The vac hob seems the most natural method and although it does also cause some mental/hormonal confusion its not as bad as far as i've noticed. . . . Quote Link to post
ferretracer 24 Posted August 3, 2010 Report Share Posted August 3, 2010 bring her out of season by the means of a vesctomised hob or jill jab, only breed her if you really need to and guarantee to find homes for all the kits, And yes they should be brought out of season otheriwse it can lead to problems later in life sometimes sooner, as the oestrogen levels buld up if not brought out of season and in some cases jills can come into season more than once in year, a friend of mine in the ferret club had his come into season twice in the space of 2 motnhs but she has now been spayed. Quote Link to post
ferretertom 7 Posted August 4, 2010 Report Share Posted August 4, 2010 You can get away with it IF your jill doesnt get an infecton a mate of mine bred 8 yes 8 litters of ferrets last year which is irraspoceable howether he left about 8 jills inseason and 4 of them got infections and ended up dead is it realy worth the risk of them dieing or worth churning out unwanted kits? I use a vasectomised hob put over them when in season takes them all out and realy reduces the risk of infection/anemia. You could get the jill jab from the vets some do it for about £3 a ferret. Or some people get them spayed all together. People who think in the old methods breeding on 2nd season or it will die ect are stuck in the past in this day and age. Quote Link to post
Recommended Posts
Join the conversation
You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account.
Note: Your post will require moderator approval before it will be visible.