Mossdog 27 Posted July 28, 2010 Report Share Posted July 28, 2010 I have just been on another forum where I posted details of a fun dog show and there was a post from someone who has a rescue Patterdale. Apparently, she wants to train it to track, which is a cool! However, she does not want it to track animals because she is training for 'the dog's benefit: to give it some variety in its day and some mental stimulation' (again!) She is looking for somewhere or a book, on how to teach your Patterdale to track scents like 'essential oils, or maybe vanilla' and is worried because the rescue suspected it may have been used for hunting and dumped, so she does not want to encourage anything that might allow it to hunt...........ever! Really sad, isn't it? I admit I had a laugh at the post, but this is a genuine question from someone who genuinely wants to do her best for her pet, but has been given a working terrier by a rescue who appear a bit too eager to cast anyone with working terriers in a bad light. I posted to say that if the dog was found wandering, it could just as easily have been a pet that disappeared because its owners had no idea how to train it! Poor Patterdale! Forced to hunt for bath cubes Oh the shame! Seriously, if she really cared about the dog and wanted to give it scope to use its brain and reflexes and have a grand time, she could take up ratting. That surely ticks all the boxes for what she wants for her dog, but Quote Link to post
HGN 150 Posted July 28, 2010 Report Share Posted July 28, 2010 She is looking for somewhere or a book, on how to teach your Patterdale to track scents like 'essential oils, or maybe vanilla' Quote Link to post
Fat-Ferret 857 Posted July 28, 2010 Report Share Posted July 28, 2010 (edited) Edited July 28, 2010 by Fat-Ferret Quote Link to post
hedz31 1,308 Posted July 28, 2010 Report Share Posted July 28, 2010 Well i guess in her own way at least shes trying to do something with the dog and its being looked after, i hope she does a better job than the divs that dumped it Quote Link to post
Panna 68 Posted July 29, 2010 Report Share Posted July 29, 2010 I would advise her to teach her dog to rescue humans from ruins, or look for drugs and so. There are katastrophy rescuers, who use dogs and small dogs have their own benefits. Actually quite some Russells and Fox terriers are used in such works as they are workmanlike with good scent and brains. YIS Quote Link to post
ben1191 9 Posted July 29, 2010 Report Share Posted July 29, 2010 my cousin whos in dog handlers section in afghanistan said they have a couple of patterdales over there used for drugs & bomb detection on vehicles and people. Quote Link to post
neil cooney 10,416 Posted July 29, 2010 Report Share Posted July 29, 2010 If that's what the girl wants to do with her dog then that's her buisness. What's a pity is that there's that many being bred that they're ending up in rescue centres. Yes I know they can't all make the grade but the right thing should be done to non-workers. For tracking a scent a terrier should be very good and sadly if a few of them made names for themselves then everyone would want them. The Yanks are useing them for weight pulling this years. Quote Link to post
Mossdog 27 Posted July 30, 2010 Author Report Share Posted July 30, 2010 I agree - great that she does want to do something positive (but the bit about essential oils did crack me up!)and is doing her best to find something that fits in with her beliefs. I also put the post up because I do get really annoyed at the number of Patterdale ending up in rescue. They seem to be being over-bred compared to the numbers of genuine, sensible working or competant pet homes available. It also bugged me that the rescue assumed that just because the dog was 'dumped' it was more than likely hunting people. Hundreds of Patterdales and other working terriers are ending up in rescue at the moment because they have been sold to pet homes who would struggle to keep a goldfish and genuinely have no idea that their dogs might want to investigate holes - of behave like terriers! I just think its a real shame! Quote Link to post
Scruffy 6 Posted July 30, 2010 Report Share Posted July 30, 2010 my cousin whos in dog handlers section in afghanistan said they have a couple of patterdales over there used for drugs & bomb detection on vehicles and people. I never new they hunted Taliban with Terriers! I might sign up! Quote Link to post
bobslurchers 1 Posted July 31, 2010 Report Share Posted July 31, 2010 I think that's the problem with rescues they are too quick to say "hunting with dogs = bad owners who don't care for their dogs", I suppose I can understand it as they do usually get left with the "bad hunters problem dogs". Although I think its a shame more dog people cannot be more understanding of what others do, as far as I am concerned my dogs can partake in any sports they chose as long as they are happy (I have tried quite a few to find something for my terrier to do to occupy her "special" mind). Both my pet dogs have come 2nd hand and I knew they wouldn't make workers, but I have looked around to find something for them to do as a sport. As the terrier x is too dippy to work (but makes a good lap warmer), and the collie x is too mental to work due to his previous bad treatment. I have tried the suggestions by rescues of training classes (which were too stressful for the collie x, and too distracting for the terrier x), flyball and agility. In the end we found SACS and ACES where they can do lure racing, weight pulling, im not sure the rescues would like this as "it makes the dogs too exited" but im sure its better than them being bored and fat pet dogs. But last of all some people seem to forget thats what these dogs were bred for! Quote Link to post
nuts 6 Posted July 31, 2010 Report Share Posted July 31, 2010 just because most terriers are used for hunting people think they are only capable of hunting only give any dog half achance and they will excel in what ever they are trained for to the right person Quote Link to post
ben1191 9 Posted July 31, 2010 Report Share Posted July 31, 2010 my cousin whos in dog handlers section in afghanistan said they have a couple of patterdales over there used for drugs & bomb detection on vehicles and people. I never new they hunted Taliban with Terriers! I might sign up! along with the spaniels and labradors,there are a few terriers amongst them aparently. Maybe we should all sign up,i dont understand why every squad doesnt take a dog with them anyway? Quote Link to post
paulk73 151 Posted July 31, 2010 Report Share Posted July 31, 2010 need to get my dog signed up. after all these oils are essential. so to be honest we are all very very lucky to still be here. i know i am cos i havent got any of em !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Quote Link to post
ben1191 9 Posted July 31, 2010 Report Share Posted July 31, 2010 im gonna teach my pat to sniff out oil xD! Then ill take him to the Falklands Hahah Quote Link to post
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