poacher3161 1,766 Posted July 28, 2010 Report Share Posted July 28, 2010 we have just got in from her walk and the sitting on the floor when she was on her way back improved things massively. the odd run around and dropping the ball 10 feet away happened but overall a great improvement. i will stick at this and I'm sure she will be 100% soon, thank you poacher 3161 Good to hear like been said in other posts a little bit of retrieve training thats fun is better than a lot that can sicken the dog.atb dell Quote Link to post
stroller 341 Posted July 28, 2010 Report Share Posted July 28, 2010 its not quite as simple as that romany, many dogs have no inclination to retrieve. it has to be a game from very small, i play with the pup at 8 weeks old at retrieving, it conditions the dog to retrieve instinctually. i usually sit by the pups bed and throw a sock around the pup always heads for its bed and so doing the retrieving training has begun. Bird your dog knows the difference between a diseased rabbit and a healthy one he just didnt see the point in a retrieve. after the amount of rabbits he has caught and retrieved do you seriously believe he doesnt? Dogs arent machines they have their off days physically and mentally. ive seen triallers that wouldnt retrieve crows and a lurcher i had would break ice to get at a shot duck, they have their likes and dislikes. If this lads whippet is running past him with the dummy its only a small correction to get the retrieve right he should be over the moon the dog is loving the game. training never stops neither does understanding why things are happening? enjoy your dogs Quote Link to post
bird 9,942 Posted July 28, 2010 Report Share Posted July 28, 2010 its not quite as simple as that romany, many dogs have no inclination to retrieve. it has to be a game from very small, i play with the pup at 8 weeks old at retrieving, it conditions the dog to retrieve instinctually. i usually sit by the pups bed and throw a sock around the pup always heads for its bed and so doing the retrieving training has begun. Bird your dog knows the difference between a diseased rabbit and a healthy one he just didnt see the point in a retrieve. after the amount of rabbits he has caught and retrieved do you seriously believe he doesnt? Dogs arent machines they have their off days physically and mentally. ive seen triallers that wouldnt retrieve crows and a lurcher i had would break ice to get at a shot duck, they have their likes and dislikes. If this lads whippet is running past him with the dummy its only a small correction to get the retrieve right he should be over the moon the dog is loving the game. training never stops neither does understanding why things are happening? enjoy your dogs spot on the 2 mixy were in a bad way , didnt move at all, he knew they were differnt to the loads he caught last season, he had no intrest in them.? last pic retrieved 150 yards away, and i still say you carnt make lurcher do it (if) it dont want fact Quote Link to post
tomburras 2,730 Posted July 28, 2010 Author Report Share Posted July 28, 2010 that middle picture is amazing! must have been hard to take that. i forgot to add im only getting her to retrieve 5 times a day so she doesnt get bored of it. also having my back to a pond stopped her running past / around me on two of the throws Quote Link to post
romany52 313 Posted July 28, 2010 Report Share Posted July 28, 2010 its not quite as simple as that romany, many dogs have no inclination to retrieve. it has to be a game from very small, i play with the pup at 8 weeks old at retrieving, it conditions the dog to retrieve instinctually. i usually sit by the pups bed and throw a sock around the pup always heads for its bed and so doing the retrieving training has begun. Bird your dog knows the difference between a diseased rabbit and a healthy one he just didnt see the point in a retrieve. after the amount of rabbits he has caught and retrieved do you seriously believe he doesnt? Dogs arent machines they have their off days physically and mentally. ive seen triallers that wouldnt retrieve crows and a lurcher i had would break ice to get at a shot duck, they have their likes and dislikes. If this lads whippet is running past him with the dummy its only a small correction to get the retrieve right he should be over the moon the dog is loving the game. training never stops neither does understanding why things are happening? enjoy your dogs spot on the 2 mixy were in a bad way , didnt move at all, he knew they were differnt to the loads he caught last season, he had no intrest in them.? last pic retrieved 150 yards away, and i still say you carnt make lurcher do it (if) it dont want fact So why does a trained dog chasing a rabbit stop on the whistle, because it most certainly doesn't want to, I'll answer that, because it's trained to obey your wishes not it's own. Quote Link to post
bird 9,942 Posted July 28, 2010 Report Share Posted July 28, 2010 its not quite as simple as that romany, many dogs have no inclination to retrieve. it has to be a game from very small, i play with the pup at 8 weeks old at retrieving, it conditions the dog to retrieve instinctually. i usually sit by the pups bed and throw a sock around the pup always heads for its bed and so doing the retrieving training has begun. Bird your dog knows the difference between a diseased rabbit and a healthy one he just didnt see the point in a retrieve. after the amount of rabbits he has caught and retrieved do you seriously believe he doesnt? Dogs arent machines they have their off days physically and mentally. ive seen triallers that wouldnt retrieve crows and a lurcher i had would break ice to get at a shot duck, they have their likes and dislikes. If this lads whippet is running past him with the dummy its only a small correction to get the retrieve right he should be over the moon the dog is loving the game. training never stops neither does understanding why things are happening? enjoy your dogs spot on the 2 mixy were in a bad way , didnt move at all, he knew they were differnt to the loads he caught last season, he had no intrest in them.? last pic retrieved 150 yards away, and i still say you carnt make lurcher do it (if) it dont want fact So why does a trained dog chasing a rabbit stop on the whistle, because it most certainly doesn't want to, I'll answer that, because it's trained to obey your wishes not it's own. are we talking labs,springers,? yes them breeds will do that, but not many lurchers will.? Quote Link to post
stroller 341 Posted July 28, 2010 Report Share Posted July 28, 2010 not many bloody labs and especially springers will stop either, and ive seen loads especially when beating and that includes keepers dogs and some very expensively trained dogs Quote Link to post
wuyang 513 Posted July 28, 2010 Report Share Posted July 28, 2010 What i find can be quite useful is to engage with the dog when it is coming close back to you with its retrieve, i sometimes move backwards or in another direction to the dog, sounds daft but it can encourage the dog to come to you with the retrieve...i tend to vary my training from dog to dog. Quote Link to post
romany52 313 Posted July 28, 2010 Report Share Posted July 28, 2010 its not quite as simple as that romany, many dogs have no inclination to retrieve. it has to be a game from very small, i play with the pup at 8 weeks old at retrieving, it conditions the dog to retrieve instinctually. i usually sit by the pups bed and throw a sock around the pup always heads for its bed and so doing the retrieving training has begun. Bird your dog knows the difference between a diseased rabbit and a healthy one he just didnt see the point in a retrieve. after the amount of rabbits he has caught and retrieved do you seriously believe he doesnt? Dogs arent machines they have their off days physically and mentally. ive seen triallers that wouldnt retrieve crows and a lurcher i had would break ice to get at a shot duck, they have their likes and dislikes. If this lads whippet is running past him with the dummy its only a small correction to get the retrieve right he should be over the moon the dog is loving the game. training never stops neither does understanding why things are happening? enjoy your dogs spot on the 2 mixy were in a bad way , didnt move at all, he knew they were differnt to the loads he caught last season, he had no intrest in them.? last pic retrieved 150 yards away, and i still say you carnt make lurcher do it (if) it dont want fact So why does a trained dog chasing a rabbit stop on the whistle, because it most certainly doesn't want to, I'll answer that, because it's trained to obey your wishes not it's own. are we talking labs,springers,? yes them breeds will do that, but not many lurchers will.? I've trained a Bedlington Greyhound to do it. Quote Link to post
romany52 313 Posted July 28, 2010 Report Share Posted July 28, 2010 (edited) not many bloody labs and especially springers will stop either, and ive seen loads especially when beating and that includes keepers dogs and some very expensively trained dogs Well all the Springers and Cockers that I've trained and my current Gsp stop to the whistle. I once trained a Bedlington Greyhound to stop right behind a rabbit on command also. Just because a dog is professionally trained doesn't mean its not been spoiled by it's owner and I've known many a gamekeeper that couldn't train a dog to shit. When I was running dogs I spent most of my time out alone as I couldn't see the point of taking the trouble to train dogs to a high standard to then have other folks dogs running a mock and fecking up my sport. Ill trained dogs are a pain in the arse. Edited July 28, 2010 by romany52 Quote Link to post
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