whippet running past on retrieve

[tomburras 2,730]

i have been having problems with my 5 1/2 month old whippet pup running past or around me on the retrieve, after throwing her dummy. does anyone have any tips to encourage her to come straight to me? i have using treats and praising her when she does it right. thank you.

[poacher3161 1,766]

Have you tried sitting on the floor [bANNED TEXT] you throw the dummy as with her being young you stood over her she will see it as a dominance thing and be reluctant to hand it over.atb dell

[tomburras 2,730]

Have you tried sitting on the floor [bANNED TEXT] you throw the dummy as with her being young you stood over her she will see it as a dominance thing and be reluctant to hand it over.atb dell

 

no i haven't, cant believe i never thought of that! i will give that a go later when we go out

[whippetmike 3]

Hi Dell

 

did ya give the sittin on the floor a go?

If ya can get your hands on a copy on perdy's progess it's a great dvd on training longdogs i swear by it.it's everything from staying retrieving learn to lamp it's a great training program let me know if you can't get it i'l lend it ya

 

 

regards mike

[collieman 45]

good advise lads I would also try sitting with a wall or such like at your back so the pup can not run past would not use to much food treats might start dropping retrieve good luck

[romany52 313]

As said , stand with your back to a wall, fence or gate,and never chase the dog to get the dummy. A good fuss should be the reward. Mike.

[bird 9,942]

Have you tried sitting on the floor [bANNED TEXT] you throw the dummy as with her being young you stood over her she will see it as a dominance thing and be reluctant to hand it over.atb dell

good advice Dell, but with this retrieving dummy or live stuff. I reckon it dont really matter what you do, because a dog will ony do it (if) it wants, you carnt make it fact. Last week he found 2 mixy rabbits, 1 on monday, the other friday. Now as most know on here my dog as caught loads of rabbits last season, and retrieved all rabbits back to me. So when he got these mixy rabbits last, i thought he could a nice bit of retrieving for me as he aint, done much since last season. Well did he want to bring these back, did he as feck,mouth'ed them where they were, and left them there.?? Now you talking of a dog who is 3 in sep, not a young pup as above.?? So what i am getting at nothing is black+white in this lurcher game.? ive had this happen alot over the years(25) where dogs get sick of retrieving rabbits. At 1st it used to piss me off, i just enjoy it while they want to do it.This season going after charlie, so its more of (c k) thany carry .lol

[romany52 313]

Have you tried sitting on the floor [bANNED TEXT] you throw the dummy as with her being young you stood over her she will see it as a dominance thing and be reluctant to hand it over.atb dell

good advice Dell, but with this retrieving dummy or live stuff. I reckon it dont really matter what you do, because a dog will ony do it (if) it wants, you carnt make it fact. Last week he found 2 mixy rabbits, 1 on monday, the other friday. Now as most know on here my dog as caught loads of rabbits last season, and retrieved all rabbits back to me. So when he got these mixy rabbits last, i thought he could a nice bit of retrieving for me as he aint, done much since last season. Well did he want to bring these back, did he as feck,mouth'ed them where they were, and left them there.?? Now you talking of a dog who is 3 in sep, not a young pup as above.?? So what i am getting at nothing is black+white in this lurcher game.? ive had this happen alot over the years(25) where dogs get sick of retrieving rabbits. At 1st it used to piss me off, i just enjoy it while they want to do it.This season going after charlie, so its more of (c k) thany carry .lol

That's the difference between a properly trained dog as opposed to one that just happens to obey commands because it wants to.

[bird 9,942]

Have you tried sitting on the floor [bANNED TEXT] you throw the dummy as with her being young you stood over her she will see it as a dominance thing and be reluctant to hand it over.atb dell

good advice Dell, but with this retrieving dummy or live stuff. I reckon it dont really matter what you do, because a dog will ony do it (if) it wants, you carnt make it fact. Last week he found 2 mixy rabbits, 1 on monday, the other friday. Now as most know on here my dog as caught loads of rabbits last season, and retrieved all rabbits back to me. So when he got these mixy rabbits last, i thought he could a nice bit of retrieving for me as he aint, done much since last season. Well did he want to bring these back, did he as feck,mouth'ed them where they were, and left them there.?? Now you talking of a dog who is 3 in sep, not a young pup as above.?? So what i am getting at nothing is black+white in this lurcher game.? ive had this happen alot over the years(25) where dogs get sick of retrieving rabbits. At 1st it used to piss me off, i just enjoy it while they want to do it.This season going after charlie, so its more of (c k) thany carry .lol

That's the difference between a properly trained dog as opposed to one that just happens to obey commands because it wants to.

 

well catching over 150 rabbits last season,retrieving every one, some from 120yds, over ditchs,and having 20-30 runs a night when its knacked.Seems like to me it done them, because it was trained to, (not) because it felt like doing it,when it wanted to.??? you will not make (any) lurcher retrieve if it dont want to. there are not gundogs, where its natural instinct to bring back.A running dog is (chase,catch,kill). if they retrieve great, as alot do but not all.?

[rory 58]

with the problem with retrieving mentioned to start the post, did kneeling work? if not try walking backwards looking at the pup as it retrieves calling it as you do, started my young whippet off retrieving.Rory

[Trigger 26]

Have you tried sitting on the floor [bANNED TEXT] you throw the dummy as with her being young you stood over her she will see it as a dominance thing and be reluctant to hand it over.atb dell

good advice Dell, but with this retrieving dummy or live stuff. I reckon it dont really matter what you do, because a dog will ony do it (if) it wants, you carnt make it fact. Last week he found 2 mixy rabbits, 1 on monday, the other friday. Now as most know on here my dog as caught loads of rabbits last season, and retrieved all rabbits back to me. So when he got these mixy rabbits last, i thought he could a nice bit of retrieving for me as he aint, done much since last season. Well did he want to bring these back, did he as feck,mouth'ed them where they were, and left them there.?? Now you talking of a dog who is 3 in sep, not a young pup as above.?? So what i am getting at nothing is black+white in this lurcher game.? ive had this happen alot over the years(25) where dogs get sick of retrieving rabbits. At 1st it used to piss me off, i just enjoy it while they want to do it.This season going after charlie, so its more of (c k) thany carry .lol

i agree they wont do it if they dont want to. my dogs 6 setember the 14th hes caught thousands of rabbits 99% 0f the time he brings them back to within the last couple of feet but there is ocassions when he will catch them and mouth them and leave them aswell.

[romany52 313]

Have you tried sitting on the floor [bANNED TEXT] you throw the dummy as with her being young you stood over her she will see it as a dominance thing and be reluctant to hand it over.atb dell

good advice Dell, but with this retrieving dummy or live stuff. I reckon it dont really matter what you do, because a dog will ony do it (if) it wants, you carnt make it fact. Last week he found 2 mixy rabbits, 1 on monday, the other friday. Now as most know on here my dog as caught loads of rabbits last season, and retrieved all rabbits back to me. So when he got these mixy rabbits last, i thought he could a nice bit of retrieving for me as he aint, done much since last season. Well did he want to bring these back, did he as feck,mouth'ed them where they were, and left them there.?? Now you talking of a dog who is 3 in sep, not a young pup as above.?? So what i am getting at nothing is black+white in this lurcher game.? ive had this happen alot over the years(25) where dogs get sick of retrieving rabbits. At 1st it used to piss me off, i just enjoy it while they want to do it.This season going after charlie, so its more of (c k) thany carry .lol

That's the difference between a properly trained dog as opposed to one that just happens to obey commands because it wants to.

 

well catching over 150 rabbits last season,retrieving every one, some from 120yds, over ditchs,and having 20-30 runs a night when its knacked.Seems like to me it done them, because it was trained to, (not) because it felt like doing it,when it wanted to.??? you will not make (any) lurcher retrieve if it dont want to. there are not gundogs, where its natural instinct to bring back.A running dog is (chase,catch,kill). if they retrieve great, as alot do but not all.?

You're missing the point mate, a trained dog retrieves when told to , the fact that yours retrieved so many suggests it's a natural retriever, if it's a trained retriever how do you account for the the one's it can't be arsed with ?

[Ideation 8,216]

Give the pup less options - do some retrieves in an enclosed space like a garden with your back to a wall/hedge. Try using a whistle. ALso could try a long training lead and if the pup starts to walk away with dummy etc then you can pull the dog gently toward you whilst repeating the retrieve command. Then lots of praise. Don't do too many it will get bored. Also it's only a pup so it thinks its playing a game - it just hasn't worked out the rules yet. It needs to understand due to command and not situation eventually. That way you could send it to retrieve anything and it will.

[romany52 313]

I train recall first , once that's sorted , retrieve is easy, just send the dog, as soon as it's picked up, recall, easy as that.

Edited July 28, 2010 by romany52

[tomburras 2,730]

we have just got in from her walk and the sitting on the floor when she was on her way back improved things massively. the odd run around and dropping the ball 10 feet away happened but overall a great improvement. i will stick at this and I'm sure she will be 100% soon, thank you poacher 3161