jac 12 Posted July 27, 2010 Author Report Share Posted July 27, 2010 is the Beeman Model 2004E 177 Air Pistol the same as the hw40? 1 Quote Link to post
RiffRaff 5 Posted July 27, 2010 Report Share Posted July 27, 2010 is the Beeman Model 2004E 177 Air Pistol the same as the hw40? hi jac there just about the same just the quality of the parts used differs, an the obvious price differance ATB Niel sspellin may be hhit nn mis bt i dont miss with the Ripley or the S400 Quote Link to post
RiffRaff 5 Posted July 27, 2010 Report Share Posted July 27, 2010 im not a newby or yougster. well 38 years young If i hit a rat and dont kill , i dispatch by hand, thats what i do when the dog gets a rabbit. I rather kill it myself nice and quick . I am now loving the look of the crossman 1377. lol multi pump pistol down side is no scoperail have to use problox to get a scope/red-dot on it,,an the rear site is pants shoot safe Niel Quote Link to post
jac 12 Posted July 27, 2010 Author Report Share Posted July 27, 2010 i still want the hw45, i keep coming back to this one, its just nice looking as weel as good power. Quote Link to post
RiffRaff 5 Posted July 27, 2010 Report Share Posted July 27, 2010 i still want the hw45, i keep coming back to this one, its just nice looking as weel as good power. hehehehe i have 2 one in .177 an tother in .22 both dual power,, the answer to your next thought is no niether is for sale Niel Quote Link to post
pointer 543 Posted July 27, 2010 Report Share Posted July 27, 2010 phantom your experiences of what injuries a rat can sustain and still survive for too long a period are different to mine. but as its our own experiences that shape our views im not saying im right and your wrong. ive wasted my life away hunting rats with dogs,guns and to a lesser degree traps .i still see them as a tough critter and a normal sized rat (14-18 inch nose to tip of tail) aint all that small for an air rifle.as big and id say tougher than alot of young rabbits ive shot infact. Quote Link to post
Phantom 631 Posted July 27, 2010 Report Share Posted July 27, 2010 (edited) hey you have seen the benches an solid is not a word i would use to describe them. and before anybody pipes up, i had a mate with a 1022 ruger standing by in case i missed the F:censored:R or wounded it N Of course they are solid buddy, Solid as a squirt of the slopps in the pan after a great bunny vindaloo and a dick up ones girlfriends butt I wasn't going to mention any names, because of the "Morons" that say it can't b done! Even though us "Real Hunters" know that it can Edited July 27, 2010 by Phantom Quote Link to post
Phantom 631 Posted July 27, 2010 Report Share Posted July 27, 2010 is the Beeman Model 2004E 177 Air Pistol the same as the hw40? Yep Sure is Phantom Quote Link to post
jac 12 Posted July 27, 2010 Author Report Share Posted July 27, 2010 i love rabbit curry Quote Link to post
Phantom 631 Posted July 27, 2010 Report Share Posted July 27, 2010 ,other than that i find the trigger is naff compared to my Rhom,,tau 7,,bruno multishot. Niel But you and I both know we can not seriously compare the trigger of an alecto to the Rhom, Tau or Bruno can we That would be like comparing the Steyer trigger to a CP99 co2 job! Phantom Quote Link to post
jac 12 Posted July 27, 2010 Author Report Share Posted July 27, 2010 I want the 177, Quote Link to post
Phantom 631 Posted July 27, 2010 Report Share Posted July 27, 2010 whats your baby phantom ? I have a couple of Puppies, they are the HW40 and the HW70, don't even think of the 70 for ratting! even if you put it in a rats ear! My Baby is the Air Arms S200 :notworthy: Bunny basher, Corvid Capper, Bullseye Target Annihilation and THL 2010 meet Marksman of the year 2010 all her specialities My Beast is the SMK XS19 Bunny Killer with a kick like a mule Phantom Quote Link to post
jackinbox99 41 Posted July 29, 2010 Report Share Posted July 29, 2010 I had a Crosman Medalist 1322 pistol for a while earlier in the year and its a pump up. Its unusual in that its a .22 for a pistol, but they also do a .177 version. I was very impressed with it. The disadvantage over c02 is that you have to pump it up. But the advantage is that by pumping it more or less you can vary the power, depending upon the range you want to shoot over. I found it pretty accurate. Obviously no scope, but theres websites dedicated to it where you can mod it to fit a scope if you dont like the original sights. Looking about they are fairly rare tho, american made and a decent one will set you back more than a good co2 pistol. Quote Link to post
jac 12 Posted July 29, 2010 Author Report Share Posted July 29, 2010 I am getting the HW45 now. having it for my birthday off OH . cant wait to try it out. I want to get a scope for it too Quote Link to post
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