WOLVERINE817 1 Posted July 25, 2010 Report Share Posted July 25, 2010 We have recently been blest with a lovery litter of seven pups, but yesterday morning my bitch stopped eating so this morning my mrs,s took her down the vets. The vet said she would not be able to feed the litter because she hads picked up a stomach infection and even thou it,s not a bad one it could posabley pass to the pups. What I need is some advice on how much the pups should be taking each time we feed them. I know we have to feed them every 2-3 hours for the next week and then drop it down to every 4 after that but any advice on this situation would be of extreem help as this will be our first hand reared litter. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
mushroom 13,223 Posted July 25, 2010 Report Share Posted July 25, 2010 How old?? breed of dog???? etc need to know this before telling you the wrong thing Lamb replacement milk from a farm supplies, in a bottle or syringe keep giving it to them until they have had enough. They'll tell you if they want more on the back of the bag it should have a guide for different animals. This lamb replacement milk is just as good if not better than the dogs milk substitutes ie lactol or skinners puppy milk Quote Link to post Share on other sites
jac 12 Posted July 25, 2010 Report Share Posted July 25, 2010 i had to hand rear a pup once, i find they pull there heads away when full, or they let it dribble out and wont swallow it. also you need to stimulate them to pee and poo as they cant do it on there own , so you need to wipe there bits with cottn bud to make them go , mum dose it by licking them . Quote Link to post Share on other sites
WOLVERINE817 1 Posted July 25, 2010 Author Report Share Posted July 25, 2010 How old?? breed of dog???? etc need to know this before telling you the wrong thing Lamb replacement milk from a farm supplies, in a bottle or syringe keep giving it to them until they have had enough. They'll tell you if they want more on the back of the bag it should have a guide for different animals. This lamb replacement milk is just as good if not better than the dogs milk substitutes ie lactol or skinners puppy milk Thanks for your reply Mushroom, the pups are 11 days old and thay are collie/greyhound/whippet. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
WOLVERINE817 1 Posted July 25, 2010 Author Report Share Posted July 25, 2010 i had to hand rear a pup once, i find they pull there heads away when full, or they let it dribble out and wont swallow it. also you need to stimulate them to pee and poo as they cant do it on there own , so you need to wipe there bits with cottn bud to make them go , mum dose it by licking them . Thanks jac, what did you use to feed the pup. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Ashover rabbit dogs 76 Posted July 25, 2010 Report Share Posted July 25, 2010 Use a substitute bitch milk such as lactol it tells you what to do on the tin. we had to hand rear a litter of terriers for they're first week and they did very well on it. good luck atb A.R.D Quote Link to post Share on other sites
WOLVERINE817 1 Posted July 25, 2010 Author Report Share Posted July 25, 2010 Use a substitute bitch milk such as lactol it tells you what to do on the tin. we had to hand rear a litter of terriers for they're first week and they did very well on it. good luck atb A.R.D That seems to be the way to go, iv'e been feeding them that today and they are taking it well. Thanks for your reply . Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Brainless 0 Posted July 26, 2010 Report Share Posted July 26, 2010 We have recently been blest with a lovery litter of seven pups, but yesterday morning my bitch stopped eating so this morning my mrs,s took her down the vets. The vet said she would not be able to feed the litter because she hads picked up a stomach infection and even thou it,s not a bad one it could posabley pass to the pups. What I need is some advice on how much the pups should be taking each time we feed them. I know we have to feed them every 2-3 hours for the next week and then drop it down to every 4 after that but any advice on this situation would be of extreem help as this will be our first hand reared litter. Firstly most vets are not expert regarding the breeding and rearing of puppies, their expertise is diagnosing illness. I had a bitch with severe mastitis on very strong antibiotics,a nd she continued to fee the pups, though they didn't; gain weight quite as well that week, soon made it up. As long as the bitch is prescribed safe antibiotics then she can carry on feeding the pups. If she has a temperature this may affect milk production, so you need to weight the puppies and the bitch must have lots of fluids. if feeding dry food soak it to a mush, to get liquids into her and also the food won't hurt her mouth where ti can get sore from cleaning puppies. The tins of bitch milk replacer will give advice about amounts if you do need to hand rear or supplement. If the bitch is not feeding them you will need to feed them every two hours day and night. The first few days the pusp shodul be sucklign off Mum almost constantly to brign teh milk in. Weigh the pusp, check for dehydrauion (pinch the skin it shoudl spring right back). There are a lot of very experienced breeders on this site:http://www.champdogsforum.co.uk/board/board/all.html you might like to seek advice there. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
mushroom 13,223 Posted July 26, 2010 Report Share Posted July 26, 2010 At 11days mate the advice I gave ya will see ya right they've had the main colostrum of the bitch by now so basicaly they'll do fine on lamb replacement trust me they'll fatten up nicely Bonney pups aswell :laugh: Quote Link to post Share on other sites
WOLVERINE817 1 Posted July 26, 2010 Author Report Share Posted July 26, 2010 We have recently been blest with a lovery litter of seven pups, but yesterday morning my bitch stopped eating so this morning my mrs,s took her down the vets. The vet said she would not be able to feed the litter because she hads picked up a stomach infection and even thou it,s not a bad one it could posabley pass to the pups. What I need is some advice on how much the pups should be taking each time we feed them. I know we have to feed them every 2-3 hours for the next week and then drop it down to every 4 after that but any advice on this situation would be of extreem help as this will be our first hand reared litter. Firstly most vets are not expert regarding the breeding and rearing of puppies, their expertise is diagnosing illness. I had a bitch with severe mastitis on very strong antibiotics,a nd she continued to fee the pups, though they didn't; gain weight quite as well that week, soon made it up. As long as the bitch is prescribed safe antibiotics then she can carry on feeding the pups. If she has a temperature this may affect milk production, so you need to weight the puppies and the bitch must have lots of fluids. if feeding dry food soak it to a mush, to get liquids into her and also the food won't hurt her mouth where ti can get sore from cleaning puppies. The tins of bitch milk replacer will give advice about amounts if you do need to hand rear or supplement. If the bitch is not feeding them you will need to feed them every two hours day and night. The first few days the pusp shodul be sucklign off Mum almost constantly to brign teh milk in. Weigh the pusp, check for dehydrauion (pinch the skin it shoudl spring right back). There are a lot of very experienced breeders on this site:http://www.champdogsforum.co.uk/board/board/all.html you might like to seek advice there. Thank you for your advice mate. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
WOLVERINE817 1 Posted July 26, 2010 Author Report Share Posted July 26, 2010 At 11days mate the advice I gave ya will see ya right they've had the main colostrum of the bitch by now so basicaly they'll do fine on lamb replacement trust me they'll fatten up nicely Bonney pups aswell :laugh: Thanks MUSH, the pups are coming on a treat. we've gone with lactol as i needed it quikly and the pups are loveing it. Sadly the bitch an't doing so well thou and to top it off we are both knackerd. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
mushroom 13,223 Posted July 27, 2010 Report Share Posted July 27, 2010 At 11days mate the advice I gave ya will see ya right they've had the main colostrum of the bitch by now so basicaly they'll do fine on lamb replacement trust me they'll fatten up nicely Bonney pups aswell :laugh: Thanks MUSH, the pups are coming on a treat. we've gone with lactol as i needed it quikly and the pups are loveing it. Sadly the bitch an't doing so well thou and to top it off we are both knackerd. Get some chicken and white rice mate boil it up for about 5 mins if that, then add some peasand carrots. Then feed this to the bitch for a couple of days the blander the better it will settle her stomach and still give her goodness. We found the lactol too rich when we used it,apparently this is common so at the vets advice we used lamb replacement. If ya pups start shiiting through the eye of a needle this is why Hope everything comes right Shroom Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Ashover rabbit dogs 76 Posted July 28, 2010 Report Share Posted July 28, 2010 At 11days mate the advice I gave ya will see ya right they've had the main colostrum of the bitch by now so basicaly they'll do fine on lamb replacement trust me they'll fatten up nicely Bonney pups aswell :laugh: Thanks MUSH, the pups are coming on a treat. we've gone with lactol as i needed it quikly and the pups are loveing it. Sadly the bitch an't doing so well thou and to top it off we are both knackerd. Get some chicken and white rice mate boil it up for about 5 mins if that, then add some peasand carrots. Then feed this to the bitch for a couple of days the blander the better it will settle her stomach and still give her goodness. We found the lactol too rich when we used it,apparently this is common so at the vets advice we used lamb replacement. If ya pups start shiiting through the eye of a needle this is why Hope everything comes right Shroom I found lactol became too rich for my terrier pups when they got to about 4 weeks i put it down to them not needing it as much the more they took solid food. the lurchers on the other hand did well on it with no problems. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Ashover rabbit dogs 76 Posted July 28, 2010 Report Share Posted July 28, 2010 At 11days mate the advice I gave ya will see ya right they've had the main colostrum of the bitch by now so basicaly they'll do fine on lamb replacement trust me they'll fatten up nicely Bonney pups aswell :laugh: Thanks MUSH, the pups are coming on a treat. we've gone with lactol as i needed it quikly and the pups are loveing it. Sadly the bitch an't doing so well thou and to top it off we are both knackerd. Get some chicken and white rice mate boil it up for about 5 mins if that, then add some peasand carrots. Then feed this to the bitch for a couple of days the blander the better it will settle her stomach and still give her goodness. We found the lactol too rich when we used it,apparently this is common so at the vets advice we used lamb replacement. If ya pups start shiiting through the eye of a needle this is why Hope everything comes right Shroom I found lactol became too rich for my terrier pups when they got to about 4 weeks i put it down to them not needing it as much the more they took solid food. the lurchers on the other hand did well on it with no problems. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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