feed before u go out

[Jamie m 668]

What about ferret x chutney ferret which lives in a rusty rabitt hole is tha a good cross

[DILLIGAF 0]

if my ferrets are crap then we had better go out together then, so i can see how its done properly.

i work up to six ferrets in some of the larger warrens of 100+ holes and go home with catches of 30+ on most occassions. in my opinion ferrets need to be fit and determined not great fat things as big as cats and so fed up they would rather curl up and go to sleep down the hole rather than actually work for a meal.

[DILLIGAF 0]

that must be a crap dog in the picture as well then as well as working with crap ferrets

[The one 8,482]

I feed mine at night so they usually have food left from the night before but if its a long days ferreting when we stop at lunch time i will give them some rabbits liver ,kidneys etc and a drink

[Malt 379]

if my ferrets are crap then we had better go out together then, so i can see how its done properly.

i work up to six ferrets in some of the larger warrens of 100+ holes and go home with catches of 30+ on most occassions. in my opinion ferrets need to be fit and determined not great fat things as big as cats and so fed up they would rather curl up and go to sleep down the hole rather than actually work for a meal.

 

I can't see how you're going to have a fat ferret by feeding up as normal before you go out. As the ferret works it's going to be using the food as fuel to keep going, so none of it will be put on as fat.

 

 

 

 

 

[Ideation 8,216]

if my ferrets are crap then we had better go out together then, so i can see how its done properly.

i work up to six ferrets in some of the larger warrens of 100+ holes and go home with catches of 30+ on most occassions. in my opinion ferrets need to be fit and determined not great fat things as big as cats and so fed up they would rather curl up and go to sleep down the hole rather than actually work for a meal.

 

Alright calm down with all the melodrama. Said nothing about 'fat things as big as cats', just that i find that feeding them a normal meal for a healthy working animal before we go ferreting makes f**k all difference to their desire to hunt and gives them the energy to work a full hard day. MIne do not hunt for food. Have you tried feeding them before you went out? Do they not work as well?

 

ALso 30 rabbits is hardly mind blowing is it.

[Coneytrappr 30]

A good ferret will be fit and determined without needing to be kept hungry. A ferret that needs to be hungry to hunt it's best may be up to your standards, but it certainly isn't up to mine.

And whoever said anything about fat ferrets?

[canis lupus 1]

I never worked mine, but logic tells me a hungry ferret is more likely to kill feed and lay up.

 

Be interesting to know how many times non fed ferret and fed ferrets lay up in a season to see if it does make a differance

[Ideation 8,216]

Touch wood - fed ferrets - no lay ups. Never had to dig to a ferret thats eaten and stopped - only ever dug to ferrets that are on the back of a live rabbit.

[The one 8,482]

='canis lupus' date='26 July 2010 - 04:40 AM' timestamp='1280115636' post='1648130']

I never worked mine, but logic tells me a hungry ferret is more likely to kill feed and lay up.

 

Be interesting to know how many times non fed ferret and fed ferrets lay up in a season to see if it does make a differance

 

Well mine have food 24/7 in the winter and if the rabbit wont bolt they lay up but thats how i pick the ones i want to breed from

[Ideation 8,216]

='canis lupus' date='26 July 2010 - 04:40 AM' timestamp='1280115636' post='1648130']

I never worked mine, but logic tells me a hungry ferret is more likely to kill feed and lay up.

 

Be interesting to know how many times non fed ferret and fed ferrets lay up in a season to see if it does make a differance

 

Well mine have food 24/7 in the winter and if the rabbit wont bolt they lay up but thats how i pick the ones i want to breed from

 

 

Aye but different ferrets different tactics - i have some that will kill and move on, some that will kill and try to drag it out, but none that will kill, eat and then sleep, which i would consider a 'lay up' and more likely to happen to a hungry ferret. They would all come out eventually, unless the rabbit is still alive, in which case they stay till it's not.

[Brimmer 220]

Any ferret I own will lay up, if it does not, then its not made the grade. I'm not afraid of a dig, and only ferrets with that mentality will get some rabbits shifted, never mind the fieldcraft, some just dont come out, especially later in the season.

What is considered a lay up may be different from some folk, but my understanding is, a lay up means a live rabbit that is not moving for love nor money, and a ferret that will not come away until the job is done, meaning dead rabbit, or i get to the rabbit with the spade.

I'll be honest, my ferrets are no gibbers, but i can tell the difference when they are full, and are running hungry.

When they kill whilst hungry, they never sit on a kill eating, they are on to the next, or out.

Have seen over my time on here over the last few years, most people would rather see their ferret come out off a rabbit, might be one left in, or half a dozen in a stop end, rather than have to dig. (Might be shallow or deep, i can understand folks not wanting an 8 ft dig!)

I know i'd rather do the job thoroughly, even if it takes more time, rather than the farmer see rabbits running out of the holes i'd cleared that day, and probs thinking i'm not up to the job.

Anyhow, everybody has there own ways on their own ground, feeding them till they are satisfied will deffo result in less 'lay ups' with less effort from the spade, just depends on how you play it on your ground.

 

Anyway, i do think the chutney ferret would be a good cross.

[Malt 379]

The definition of a 'lay up' for me, is the ferret killing the rabbit and staying with it. My albino jill will kill now and again, but she doesn't stay with the rabbit. She either moves on or comes out.

[para1 11]

Any ferret I own will lay up, if it does not, then its not made the grade. I'm not afraid of a dig, and only ferrets with that mentality will get some rabbits shifted, never mind the fieldcraft, some just dont come out, especially later in the season.

What is considered a lay up may be different from some folk, but my understanding is, a lay up means a live rabbit that is not moving for love nor money, and a ferret that will not come away until the job is done, meaning dead rabbit, or i get to the rabbit with the spade.

I'll be honest, my ferrets are no gibbers, but i can tell the difference when they are full, and are running hungry.

When they kill whilst hungry, they never sit on a kill eating, they are on to the next, or out.

Have seen over my time on here over the last few years, most people would rather see their ferret come out off a rabbit, might be one left in, or half a dozen in a stop end, rather than have to dig. (Might be shallow or deep, i can understand folks not wanting an 8 ft dig!)

I know i'd rather do the job thoroughly, even if it takes more time, rather than the farmer see rabbits running out of the holes i'd cleared that day, and probs thinking i'm not up to the job.

Anyhow, everybody has there own ways on their own ground, feeding them till they are satisfied will deffo result in less 'lay ups' with less effort from the spade, just depends on how you play it on your ground.

 

Anyway, i do think the chutney ferret would be a good cross.

This man knows what a good ferret is some might want to read this again.P1

[Ideation 8,216]

Any ferret I own will lay up, if it does not, then its not made the grade. I'm not afraid of a dig, and only ferrets with that mentality will get some rabbits shifted, never mind the fieldcraft, some just dont come out, especially later in the season.

What is considered a lay up may be different from some folk, but my understanding is, a lay up means a live rabbit that is not moving for love nor money, and a ferret that will not come away until the job is done, meaning dead rabbit, or i get to the rabbit with the spade.

I'll be honest, my ferrets are no gibbers, but i can tell the difference when they are full, and are running hungry.

When they kill whilst hungry, they never sit on a kill eating, they are on to the next, or out.

Have seen over my time on here over the last few years, most people would rather see their ferret come out off a rabbit, might be one left in, or half a dozen in a stop end, rather than have to dig. (Might be shallow or deep, i can understand folks not wanting an 8 ft dig!)

I know i'd rather do the job thoroughly, even if it takes more time, rather than the farmer see rabbits running out of the holes i'd cleared that day, and probs thinking i'm not up to the job.

Anyhow, everybody has there own ways on their own ground, feeding them till they are satisfied will deffo result in less 'lay ups' with less effort from the spade, just depends on how you play it on your ground.

 

Anyway, i do think the chutney ferret would be a good cross.

 

Aye spot on. I like them coming off when they have killed and getting on with the job in hand but they shouldn't leave a live one. Very well summed up matey!