poacher3161 1,766 Posted July 23, 2010 Report Share Posted July 23, 2010 <BR><BR><BR><BR>some of the people on here who can stop there dog running quarry i assume you do this when they are young so first of all your training them to run that quarry then when youve achived this you train them to stop in mid chase now in my eyes icould be wrong but imagaine how dishearting this is for a young dog youve put all that time in to chasing quarry now you telling it not to you carnt tell me that this is agood thing to do to a young dog it is dishearting and you are puzzling a young dogs head but het each to there own i like to build confidence in my young hounds not smash there confidence atb biza<BR><BR>I agree to train a lurcher to stop chaseing imho is totally unnatrual and i wouldent attempt it for fear of mentally damaging the dog.<BR><BR>this is true cause you instill rules in your dog from a young age eg.not to chase livestock etc but teaching a young dog to chase quarry and encourage him to do so then to smash that dogs confidence by then teaching him to stop well you would have to be very firm with the dog to do that any way would mentally damage a young dogs confidence but then again each to there own atb biza<BR><BR><BR><BR><BR>Some people on here really don't have a clue about dog training. You teach the dog from a young age NO means NO no matter what it's doing you are the BOSS and the dog should do as you say. For all you that think a well trained dog isn't 100% committed to it's job. Go take a look on the boar hunting section there's a good post on there by a guy in australia. His dogs will hang on to a 100kg+ wild pig for as long as it takes for him to get there taking a hell of alot of punishment but on his arrival at the catch one word from him and they let go.Not because they want to but because he has told them to and that is how it should be IMO.<BR><BR>I train my dogs to leave things with the command leave it as i would never put up with a dog mouthing rabbits in a purse net like i have seen on a few vidios but to stop them in full flight wile they were in pursuite of their quarry must take some doing like i say we all have our own methods.atb dell<BR><BR> What i did with my beddy/whippet when he was a pup,before hed even seen a rabbit.was 2 or 3 of us would take him down the fields & get him running from one to the other until he was really fired up & then give him the command to stop.We'd do this 2 or 3 times a week until he understood what i wanted him to do.Im not 100% at stopping him mid chase but im getting there.Ive been lucky with my deerhound x.He just knows no means no.I can honestly say,hand on heart its had no effect on thier desire to chase & catch. Atb.Kev Thats good to hear mate as i think most of us at sometime due to an heart in the mouth situation wish we could have stopped the dog chaseing [bANNED TEXT] in full flight like the situation in my first post that cost me a fine at the magistrates Was a rabbit it caught? What fine did you get? No it was an hare i had just put one of the lurchers on the lead as i was aproaching a main road off a public footpath and was just about to put the other one on [bANNED TEXT] the springer flushed an hare that ran across the feild at the side of the road were he happend to catch it at the same time a landrover belonging to the farmer spotted me and after getting the dog back and stashing the hare the police were soon on the scene were i was charged then appeared at doncaster magistrates at a later date and fined £30 as i convinced them it was accidental this was in the early 90s though and i dont know wat the outcome would be now looking at the horrendus fines their dishing out these days.atb dell Quote Link to post
dogs-n-natives 1,182 Posted July 23, 2010 Report Share Posted July 23, 2010 They left an exemption in the law for cases of dogs catching game by accident, they need to prove that there was INTENT on your part.... if you did not intend for your dog to catch it, you did NOT commit an offence under the hunting act. BUT like has been said, there may be local by-laws relating to control of dogs in certain areas. Quote Link to post
biza hollis 27 Posted July 23, 2010 Report Share Posted July 23, 2010 some of the people on here who can stop there dog running quarry i assume you do this when they are young so first of all your training them to run that quarry then when youve achived this you train them to stop in mid chase now in my eyes icould be wrong but imagaine how dishearting this is for a young dog youve put all that time in to chasing quarry now you telling it not to you carnt tell me that this is agood thing to do to a young dog it is dishearting and you are puzzling a young dogs head but het each to there own i like to build confidence in my young hounds not smash there confidence atb biza I agree to train a lurcher to stop chaseing imho is totally unnatrual and i wouldent attempt it for fear of mentally damaging the dog. this is true cause you instill rules in your dog from a young age eg.not to chase livestock etc but teaching a young dog to chase quarry and encourage him to do so then to smash that dogs confidence by then teaching him to stop well you would have to be very firm with the dog to do that any way would mentally damage a young dogs confidence but then again each to there own atb biza Some people on here really don't have a clue about dog training. You teach the dog from a young age NO means NO no matter what it's doing you are the BOSS and the dog should do as you say. For all you that think a well trained dog isn't 100% committed to it's job. Go take a look on the boar hunting section there's a good post on there by a guy in australia. His dogs will hang on to a 100kg+ wild pig for as long as it takes for him to get there taking a hell of alot of punishment but on his arrival at the catch one word from him and they let go.Not because they want to but because he has told them to and that is how it should be IMO. tell a dog to leave something once it has caught it is completly different to stop a dog running something in full flight atb biza Quote Link to post
shushycatcher 219 Posted July 23, 2010 Report Share Posted July 23, 2010 some of the people on here who can stop there dog running quarry i assume you do this when they are young so first of all your training them to run that quarry then when youve achived this you train them to stop in mid chase now in my eyes icould be wrong but imagaine how dishearting this is for a young dog youve put all that time in to chasing quarry now you telling it not to you carnt tell me that this is agood thing to do to a young dog it is dishearting and you are puzzling a young dogs head but het each to there own i like to build confidence in my young hounds not smash there confidence atb biza I agree to train a lurcher to stop chaseing imho is totally unnatrual and i wouldent attempt it for fear of mentally damaging the dog. this is true cause you instill rules in your dog from a young age eg.not to chase livestock etc but teaching a young dog to chase quarry and encourage him to do so then to smash that dogs confidence by then teaching him to stop well you would have to be very firm with the dog to do that any way would mentally damage a young dogs confidence but then again each to there own atb biza Some people on here really don't have a clue about dog training. You teach the dog from a young age NO means NO no matter what it's doing you are the BOSS and the dog should do as you say. For all you that think a well trained dog isn't 100% committed to it's job. Go take a look on the boar hunting section there's a good post on there by a guy in australia. His dogs will hang on to a 100kg+ wild pig for as long as it takes for him to get there taking a hell of alot of punishment but on his arrival at the catch one word from him and they let go.Not because they want to but because he has told them to and that is how it should be IMO. tell a dog to leave something once it has caught it is completly different to stop a dog running something in full flight atb biza If my dogs in full flight and its heading straight 4 a gate,orchard,road etc,i want it to stop,she knows No means No,maybe im just lucky,atb. Quote Link to post
brianL84 11 Posted July 23, 2010 Report Share Posted July 23, 2010 Any dog man worth his salt should be able to stop his dog from chasing something he doesn't want it to. I'm not talking about calling a dog off mid race although this can also be done with the correct training. I'm talking about stopping a dog in it's first few paces letting it know what it's after in not on the menu at the present time. The simple word NO can save a whole lot of trouble when out and about IMO there is no excuse for letting an out of control poorly trained dog loose in the country side. what a load of codswallop if you can call a dog of the game he was to catch he not much of a dog a you sure its not a gun dog you have. your talking the codswallop mate you obviously dnt no what your talking about i go out with 2 other guys and between 3 to 6 dogs most days and we can stop them. your obviously not training your dogs properly Quote Link to post
biza hollis 27 Posted July 23, 2010 Report Share Posted July 23, 2010 Any dog man worth his salt should be able to stop his dog from chasing something he doesn't want it to. I'm not talking about calling a dog off mid race although this can also be done with the correct training. I'm talking about stopping a dog in it's first few paces letting it know what it's after in not on the menu at the present time. The simple word NO can save a whole lot of trouble when out and about IMO there is no excuse for letting an out of control poorly trained dog loose in the country side. what a load of codswallop if you can call a dog of the game he was to catch he not much of a dog a you sure its not a gun dog you have. your talking the codswallop mate you obviously dnt no what your talking about i go out with 2 other guys and between 3 to 6 dogs most days and we can stop them. your obviously not training your dogs properly your telling me a hare or rabbit gets up the dog has say got up to the quarry put a few turns in and there haeding towards a gateway that goes straight onto a road you shout no stop and your dog stops if so mate you should open your own dog training buisness up cause you are good and i mean real good atb biza Quote Link to post
shushycatcher 219 Posted July 24, 2010 Report Share Posted July 24, 2010 so you cant stop your dogs at all? Quote Link to post
conor.k 2 Posted July 24, 2010 Report Share Posted July 24, 2010 Any dog man worth his salt should be able to stop his dog from chasing something he doesn't want it to. I'm not talking about calling a dog off mid race although this can also be done with the correct training. I'm talking about stopping a dog in it's first few paces letting it know what it's after in not on the menu at the present time. The simple word NO can save a whole lot of trouble when out and about IMO there is no excuse for letting an out of control poorly trained dog loose in the country side. I'm not talking about some wild dog rampaging round the countryside, I mean it you were just on a park or something and a rabbit pops up. Thousands of people walk their dogs off the leads around parks and countryside!! If your dog was 30 yards away from you and a rabbit it appeared next to it, you're telling me that you saying "no" would stop it chasing it??? YES! I agree. My lurcher stops dead in his tracks when I bark: 'LEAVE IT!!' at him, but my little bitch of a terrier just kind of slows down in the hope she can get far away enough from me to act deaf before I get to her and pick her up, does my fecking head in.. Hard headed little bitch.. is that a collie lurcher? surely more dogs aren't that obedient when out and about are they??? :no:its deffenitaly not a bull X Quote Link to post
shushycatcher 219 Posted July 24, 2010 Report Share Posted July 24, 2010 whats not a bull cross? Quote Link to post
shushycatcher 219 Posted July 24, 2010 Report Share Posted July 24, 2010 sorry,gting carried away!!!!!!!!!! Quote Link to post
conor.k 2 Posted July 24, 2010 Report Share Posted July 24, 2010 whats not a bull cross? YOUR DOG CAUSE IV SEEN QUITE A FEW PLUS MY OWN CHASING AND TRYING TO STOP IN MID CHASE BUT NO NO NO THEY DONT FEKIN LISTEN JMO Quote Link to post
shushycatcher 219 Posted July 24, 2010 Report Share Posted July 24, 2010 whats not a bull cross? YOUR DOG CAUSE IV SEEN QUITE A FEW PLUS MY OWN CHASING AND TRYING TO STOP IN MID CHASE BUT NO NO NO THEY DONT FEKIN LISTEN JMO no need to shout! she is a bull cross back 3 gens,and she does listen! like i said,maybe im lucky.but in my opinion you can stop any dog with the right training .atb Quote Link to post
brianL84 11 Posted July 24, 2010 Report Share Posted July 24, 2010 Any dog man worth his salt should be able to stop his dog from chasing something he doesn't want it to. I'm not talking about calling a dog off mid race although this can also be done with the correct training. I'm talking about stopping a dog in it's first few paces letting it know what it's after in not on the menu at the present time. The simple word NO can save a whole lot of trouble when out and about IMO there is no excuse for letting an out of control poorly trained dog loose in the country side. what a load of codswallop if you can call a dog of the game he was to catch he not much of a dog a you sure its not a gun dog you have. your talking the codswallop mate you obviously dnt no what your talking about i go out with 2 other guys and between 3 to 6 dogs most days and we can stop them. your obviously not training your dogs properly your telling me a hare or rabbit gets up the dog has say got up to the quarry put a few turns in and there haeding towards a gateway that goes straight onto a road you shout no stop and your dog stops if so mate you should open your own dog training buisness up cause you are good and i mean real good atb biza well im tellin u i can and if you dont believe me i would be more than happy to put a video up to show u i can Quote Link to post
rob190364 2,594 Posted July 24, 2010 Author Report Share Posted July 24, 2010 Any dog man worth his salt should be able to stop his dog from chasing something he doesn't want it to. I'm not talking about calling a dog off mid race although this can also be done with the correct training. I'm talking about stopping a dog in it's first few paces letting it know what it's after in not on the menu at the present time. The simple word NO can save a whole lot of trouble when out and about IMO there is no excuse for letting an out of control poorly trained dog loose in the country side. what a load of codswallop if you can call a dog of the game he was to catch he not much of a dog a you sure its not a gun dog you have. your talking the codswallop mate you obviously dnt no what your talking about i go out with 2 other guys and between 3 to 6 dogs most days and we can stop them. your obviously not training your dogs properly your telling me a hare or rabbit gets up the dog has say got up to the quarry put a few turns in and there haeding towards a gateway that goes straight onto a road you shout no stop and your dog stops if so mate you should open your own dog training buisness up cause you are good and i mean real good atb biza well im tellin u i can and if you dont believe me i would be more than happy to put a video up to show u i can Yes! put the video on... Quote Link to post
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