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[Butler 396]

Stopping a dog chasing game is as easy as stopping it chasing livestock but the sad truth is many people dont bother to instill basic commands I know many dog men who scoff when I say I need my dog to stop chasing when I say, not when it feels like it ,all you here is cant be much good then .The fact is the better the training the better the dog.I often walk ten lurchers of one type or another through fields of sheep none have leads on none chase all walk to heel all stand and watch rabbits running amongst the sheep none chase untill told.

it's nothing like the same as stopping it chasing livestock, you want it to catch rabbits etc. most of the time, you never want it to chase livestock so it shouldn't run after livestock no matter what.

 

No but it is kind of similar to the control needed to do the following - take one hungry dog, make him sit, place a bowl of really tasty meat in front of him and watch him sit there for 10-15 mins wanting the food so bad but not moving a muscle, before you give a command and only then does he eat. Not quite but close. It's also how you tell the dog to leave things it doesnt understand yet - if i left my pup with my chickens i'd have dead chickens, but if i'm in their pen and he's with me i can see he wants them bad, and will take a pace toward them, and when i growl he stops dead and looks at me with a guilty look in his eye. If i walked away and came back ten mins later i'd be out of chickens.

Spot on.Its called being the pack leader.I personally think this level of control is inportant if you have your dogs of lead in a public place or work them in the day in full veiw of the genral public as well as the reasons you already said.For me,when you have this level of trust,respect & control from your dog,that is when you can say you really work WITH your dog.Just my opinion.

all these people that say their dogs are so under control that they come back even when on a chase....what breed/mix of dog have you got? just out of interest? I'm keen to see if any of them are sighthounds or non-collie lurchers.

 

I will not own a dog with collie blood in it nothing agains't them that do just not my kind of dog. My dog's are made up of 99.99999999999999% running/sighthound blood.

[rob190364 2,594]

If people can do it with trained attack dogs or guard dogs then you can do it with sight hounds

German Shepherds etc. are renown for their obedience and intellegence though, not sure that's the same for sighthounds is it?

[bendrover 556]

Look lads take it as it is meant it's just an opinion but one that i believe in. They are your dogs and they will be trained to your standards but please don't put another man down for wanting more from a dog that a point and shoot hound. My dogs earn there keep and account for a little bit of stuff over the course of a season so i will stick to how i do things and you do your thing................................Happy hunting.

thats a fair enough comment mate.but for me ,if i can shout my dog off its quarry.im worried about its prey drive.just my opinion.ps i have tried many times to call my dogs off,ie a road etc and had limmited success.the ones that stopped havent stayed with me that long.and NOT because it stopped when i called.more because it didnt want it enough.atb benny

[whin 463]

had dogs i could call of but lots of traing and hard training ,to much for some dogs but you can do it

[tomburras 2,729]

i have wondered this exact same question as i had my 18 week old whippet (at the time) chase a rabbit in an urban park and despite lots of shouting recalls wouldn't stop (thank god, the rabbit got away). she responds to all recalls but not on this occasion and i have often thought that when I'm on public footpaths i will have to keep her on a long lead. i have also wondered if she did catch a rabbit when I'm walking her on public footpaths e.c.t would i be in trouble? i have put in many many hours training her (she is my first rabbiting dog) but she did not listen on this occasion and doubt she would now (if it happened again) i maybe a bad trainer but iv tried very very hard!!.

[matmorgan 49]

Any dog man worth his salt should be able to stop his dog from chasing something he doesn't want it to. I'm not talking about calling a dog off mid race although this can also be done with the correct training. I'm talking about stopping a dog in it's first few paces letting it know what it's after in not on the menu at the present time. The simple word NO can save a whole lot of trouble when out and about IMO there is no excuse for letting an out of control poorly trained dog loose in the country side.

I'm not talking about some wild dog rampaging round the countryside, I mean it you were just on a park or something and a rabbit pops up. Thousands of people walk their dogs off the leads around parks and countryside!! If your dog was 30 yards away from you and a rabbit it appeared next to it, you're telling me that you saying "no" would stop it chasing it???

 

YES!

I agree.

 

My lurcher stops dead in his tracks when I bark: 'LEAVE IT!!' at him, but my little bitch of a terrier just kind of slows down in the hope she can get far away enough from me to act deaf before I get to her and pick her up, does my fecking head in.. Hard headed little bitch..

i also agree.my bitch is just over 8 months and i can stop her with a gruff NO!.

[shushycatcher 219]

Stopping a dog chasing game is as easy as stopping it chasing livestock but the sad truth is many people dont bother to instill basic commands I know many dog men who scoff when I say I need my dog to stop chasing when I say, not when it feels like it ,all you here is cant be much good then .The fact is the better the training the better the dog.I often walk ten lurchers of one type or another through fields of sheep none have leads on none chase all walk to heel all stand and watch rabbits running amongst the sheep none chase untill told.

it's nothing like the same as stopping it chasing livestock, you want it to catch rabbits etc. most of the time, you never want it to chase livestock so it shouldn't run after livestock no matter what.

 

No but it is kind of similar to the control needed to do the following - take one hungry dog, make him sit, place a bowl of really tasty meat in front of him and watch him sit there for 10-15 mins wanting the food so bad but not moving a muscle, before you give a command and only then does he eat. Not quite but close. It's also how you tell the dog to leave things it doesnt understand yet - if i left my pup with my chickens i'd have dead chickens, but if i'm in their pen and he's with me i can see he wants them bad, and will take a pace toward them, and when i growl he stops dead and looks at me with a guilty look in his eye. If i walked away and came back ten mins later i'd be out of chickens.

Spot on.Its called being the pack leader.I personally think this level of control is inportant if you have your dogs of lead in a public place or work them in the day in full veiw of the genral public as well as the reasons you already said.For me,when you have this level of trust,respect & control from your dog,that is when you can say you really work WITH your dog.Just my opinion.

all these people that say their dogs are so under control that they come back even when on a chase....what breed/mix of dog have you got? just out of interest? I'm keen to see if any of them are sighthounds or non-collie lurchers.

My dog is a saluki greyhound x bull whip greyhound,she chases what i want her to chase,if i lit your eyes up in the field she would chase you,if i told her to,if she was halfway down a beam and i wanted her to stop,i tell her and she would stop! If you have a slip and run dog that you cant control once slipped then its not(in my opinion)trained to a reasonable standard. And farmers would be reluctant to give you permission to run on thier ground! That said,Happy hunting

[matmorgan 49]

Stopping a dog chasing game is as easy as stopping it chasing livestock but the sad truth is many people dont bother to instill basic commands I know many dog men who scoff when I say I need my dog to stop chasing when I say, not when it feels like it ,all you here is cant be much good then .The fact is the better the training the better the dog.I often walk ten lurchers of one type or another through fields of sheep none have leads on none chase all walk to heel all stand and watch rabbits running amongst the sheep none chase untill told.

it's nothing like the same as stopping it chasing livestock, you want it to catch rabbits etc. most of the time, you never want it to chase livestock so it shouldn't run after livestock no matter what.

 

No but it is kind of similar to the control needed to do the following - take one hungry dog, make him sit, place a bowl of really tasty meat in front of him and watch him sit there for 10-15 mins wanting the food so bad but not moving a muscle, before you give a command and only then does he eat. Not quite but close. It's also how you tell the dog to leave things it doesnt understand yet - if i left my pup with my chickens i'd have dead chickens, but if i'm in their pen and he's with me i can see he wants them bad, and will take a pace toward them, and when i growl he stops dead and looks at me with a guilty look in his eye. If i walked away and came back ten mins later i'd be out of chickens.

Spot on.Its called being the pack leader.I personally think this level of control is inportant if you have your dogs of lead in a public place or work them in the day in full veiw of the genral public as well as the reasons you already said.For me,when you have this level of trust,respect & control from your dog,that is when you can say you really work WITH your dog.Just my opinion.

all these people that say their dogs are so under control that they come back even when on a chase....what breed/mix of dog have you got? just out of interest? I'm keen to see if any of them are sighthounds or non-collie lurchers.

My dog is a saluki greyhound x bull whip greyhound,she chases what i want her to chase,if i lit your eyes up in the field she would chase you,if i told her to,if she was halfway down a beam and i wanted her to stop,i tell her and she would stop! If you have a slip and run dog that you cant control once slipped then its not(in my opinion)trained to a reasonable standard. And farmers would be reluctant to give you permission to run on thier ground! That said,Happy hunting

spot on.i took my bitch to watch my mate ferreting and the farmer joined us.she done as she was told all day.the farmer then gave me permission to take her anywhere on his land.theres 5000 acres.a bit off obedience is good manners and you never know were it will lead.she mouthed a couple of netted rabbits and looked keen as mustad so fingers crossed for this first season.

[shushycatcher 219]

Stopping a dog chasing game is as easy as stopping it chasing livestock but the sad truth is many people dont bother to instill basic commands I know many dog men who scoff when I say I need my dog to stop chasing when I say, not when it feels like it ,all you here is cant be much good then .The fact is the better the training the better the dog.I often walk ten lurchers of one type or another through fields of sheep none have leads on none chase all walk to heel all stand and watch rabbits running amongst the sheep none chase untill told.

it's nothing like the same as stopping it chasing livestock, you want it to catch rabbits etc. most of the time, you never want it to chase livestock so it shouldn't run after livestock no matter what.

good luck with her mate!

 

No but it is kind of similar to the control needed to do the following - take one hungry dog, make him sit, place a bowl of really tasty meat in front of him and watch him sit there for 10-15 mins wanting the food so bad but not moving a muscle, before you give a command and only then does he eat. Not quite but close. It's also how you tell the dog to leave things it doesnt understand yet - if i left my pup with my chickens i'd have dead chickens, but if i'm in their pen and he's with me i can see he wants them bad, and will take a pace toward them, and when i growl he stops dead and looks at me with a guilty look in his eye. If i walked away and came back ten mins later i'd be out of chickens.

Spot on.Its called being the pack leader.I personally think this level of control is inportant if you have your dogs of lead in a public place or work them in the day in full veiw of the genral public as well as the reasons you already said.For me,when you have this level of trust,respect & control from your dog,that is when you can say you really work WITH your dog.Just my opinion.

all these people that say their dogs are so under control that they come back even when on a chase....what breed/mix of dog have you got? just out of interest? I'm keen to see if any of them are sighthounds or non-collie lurchers.

My dog is a saluki greyhound x bull whip greyhound,she chases what i want her to chase,if i lit your eyes up in the field she would chase you,if i told her to,if she was halfway down a beam and i wanted her to stop,i tell her and she would stop! If you have a slip and run dog that you cant control once slipped then its not(in my opinion)trained to a reasonable standard. And farmers would be reluctant to give you permission to run on thier ground! That said,Happy hunting

spot on.i took my bitch to watch my mate ferreting and the farmer joined us.she done as she was told all day.the farmer then gave me permission to take her anywhere on his land.theres 5000 acres.a bit off obedience is good manners and you never know were it will lead.she mouthed a couple of netted rabbits and looked keen as mustad so fingers crossed for this first season.

[kev2010 8]

Stopping a dog chasing game is as easy as stopping it chasing livestock but the sad truth is many people dont bother to instill basic commands I know many dog men who scoff when I say I need my dog to stop chasing when I say, not when it feels like it ,all you here is cant be much good then .The fact is the better the training the better the dog.I often walk ten lurchers of one type or another through fields of sheep none have leads on none chase all walk to heel all stand and watch rabbits running amongst the sheep none chase untill told.

it's nothing like the same as stopping it chasing livestock, you want it to catch rabbits etc. most of the time, you never want it to chase livestock so it shouldn't run after livestock no matter what.

 

No but it is kind of similar to the control needed to do the following - take one hungry dog, make him sit, place a bowl of really tasty meat in front of him and watch him sit there for 10-15 mins wanting the food so bad but not moving a muscle, before you give a command and only then does he eat. Not quite but close. It's also how you tell the dog to leave things it doesnt understand yet - if i left my pup with my chickens i'd have dead chickens, but if i'm in their pen and he's with me i can see he wants them bad, and will take a pace toward them, and when i growl he stops dead and looks at me with a guilty look in his eye. If i walked away and came back ten mins later i'd be out of chickens.

Spot on.Its called being the pack leader.I personally think this level of control is inportant if you have your dogs of lead in a public place or work them in the day in full veiw of the genral public as well as the reasons you already said.For me,when you have this level of trust,respect & control from your dog,that is when you can say you really work WITH your dog.Just my opinion.

all these people that say their dogs are so under control that they come back even when on a chase....what breed/mix of dog have you got? just out of interest? I'm keen to see if any of them are sighthounds or non-collie lurchers.

Ive a deerhound/greyhound with abit of collie in him & a beddy/whippet x whippet.

I wouldnt say i can stop them mid chase 10 out of 10 but thats my goal.I would rather walk home with my dogs than have to carry them home & bury them for the sake of chasing a rabbit out onto a road.Or getting done for catching a rabbit on a country park.

As for the dog not being as keen,i dont think it makes any difference.It just means your in control of the situation & not the dog.Everybody has thier own way of doing things.

Atb Kev.

[Helen 2]

If people can do it with trained attack dogs or guard dogs then you can do it with sight hounds

German Shepherds etc. are renown for their obedience and intellegence though, not sure that's the same for sighthounds is it?

 

I can call my Shepherd off a running man or a rabbit not my Deerhound, once he's in full stride no chance I've even tried an electric collar he just ran faster totally different mentality and not because the Deerhound wants to get the rabbit he doesn't it's the chase.

[runforyourlife 361]

i know the dog is suposed to be under control at all times but to call the dog off the game hes hunting i have never seen. i could understand a collie cross doing it but not a sight hound say salukir a deerhound, greyhound.and iwould not want to call him of anyway.keep him under control in public places is diffrent if in doubt keep him on the lead.

 

 

Why keep going on about a "collie cross" One of mine is a collie cross, and he is more stubborn that the others! The one i dont even have to shout at but just a click of the fingers, is a "saluki" cross! Its all in the training pal, why argue with guys who do it everyday...

[whin 463]

stoping dogs is fine but it can sour them and they dont try the same for one , some cant take the mental training to get the to down full tilt, if im out in the dark beam on i lamp if i dont want them on it switch beam of and walkthe other way roughly simple as ,to be a good dog man you raly have to be agood hunter which alot of use fail before you get out the house ,if your dogs to keen leash him and a few long runs heel get chance to calm down ,i used to have a dog luke and fallon both stopped at the wistle and one the vioce done it at a country fair years ago ,to control a dog properly if he is highly bred for the chase takes time and know how not for begginers etc

[rob190364 2,594]

Stopping a dog chasing game is as easy as stopping it chasing livestock but the sad truth is many people dont bother to instill basic commands I know many dog men who scoff when I say I need my dog to stop chasing when I say, not when it feels like it ,all you here is cant be much good then .The fact is the better the training the better the dog.I often walk ten lurchers of one type or another through fields of sheep none have leads on none chase all walk to heel all stand and watch rabbits running amongst the sheep none chase untill told.

it's nothing like the same as stopping it chasing livestock, you want it to catch rabbits etc. most of the time, you never want it to chase livestock so it shouldn't run after livestock no matter what.

good luck with her mate!

 

No but it is kind of similar to the control needed to do the following - take one hungry dog, make him sit, place a bowl of really tasty meat in front of him and watch him sit there for 10-15 mins wanting the food so bad but not moving a muscle, before you give a command and only then does he eat. Not quite but close. It's also how you tell the dog to leave things it doesnt understand yet - if i left my pup with my chickens i'd have dead chickens, but if i'm in their pen and he's with me i can see he wants them bad, and will take a pace toward them, and when i growl he stops dead and looks at me with a guilty look in his eye. If i walked away and came back ten mins later i'd be out of chickens.

Spot on.Its called being the pack leader.I personally think this level of control is inportant if you have your dogs of lead in a public place or work them in the day in full veiw of the genral public as well as the reasons you already said.For me,when you have this level of trust,respect & control from your dog,that is when you can say you really work WITH your dog.Just my opinion.

all these people that say their dogs are so under control that they come back even when on a chase....what breed/mix of dog have you got? just out of interest? I'm keen to see if any of them are sighthounds or non-collie lurchers.

My dog is a saluki greyhound x bull whip greyhound,she chases what i want her to chase,if i lit your eyes up in the field she would chase you,if i told her to,if she was halfway down a beam and i wanted her to stop,i tell her and she would stop! If you have a slip and run dog that you cant control once slipped then its not(in my opinion)trained to a reasonable standard. And farmers would be reluctant to give you permission to run on thier ground! That said,Happy hunting

spot on.i took my bitch to watch my mate ferreting and the farmer joined us.she done as she was told all day.the farmer then gave me permission to take her anywhere on his land.theres 5000 acres.a bit off obedience is good manners and you never know were it will lead.she mouthed a couple of netted rabbits and looked keen as mustad so fingers crossed for this first season.

So anyway, back to the original question....assuming you try to stop the dog but it doesn't stop and catches the rabbit, what would be the outcome?

[rob190364 2,594]

i know the dog is suposed to be under control at all times but to call the dog off the game hes hunting i have never seen. i could understand a collie cross doing it but not a sight hound say salukir a deerhound, greyhound.and iwould not want to call him of anyway.keep him under control in public places is diffrent if in doubt keep him on the lead.

 

 

Why keep going on about a "collie cross" One of mine is a collie cross, and he is more stubborn that the others! The one i dont even have to shout at but just a click of the fingers, is a "saluki" cross! Its all in the training pal, why argue with guys who do it everyday...

I mention collie cross because either pure collies or dogs with collies in them are generally more obedient and easier to train are they not? basically I was just trying to find out what dogs people were referring to when they were saying how their dog stops with one word. I'm not arguing, I'm just asking questions because some people are saying sighthounds wouldn't stop and some are saying they would. And another reason for questioning is because like any internet forum, there will be people on here that basically lie or talk out of their ar'e! Not accusing anyone specific but it's just the nature of internet forums.