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[Ideation 8,216]

To be fair plenty of folk can call their dog off game before it gets into its stride and goes running deaf, just takes training and control, same way you can send your dog onto quarry it doesnt know to chase if you command it. This does not make the dog poor in any way, just well trained. If your dog caught game it shouldnt or where it shouldnt be, the argument is that you should of had the dog under control and if you say 'aw but hes a lurcher its not my fault, he chases stuff and i can't stop him' then the police are obviously going to say 'you just admitted you cant control him off a lead so you were being irresponsible by not having him on one' - it's YOUR dog, what ever it does is YOUR responsibility.

[rob190364 2,594]

i know the dog is suposed to be under control at all times but to call the dog off the game hes hunting i have never seen. i could understand a collie cross doing it but not a sight hound say salukir a deerhound, greyhound.and iwould not want to call him of anyway.keep him under control in public places is diffrent if in doubt keep him on the lead.

what happens if a lion jumps out could you slip the dog or should you let the lion eat you

as long as the lion doesn't run after a hare you'll be fine, and if it does start just tell it "no!"

[fieldsman 51]

Stopping a dog chasing game is as easy as stopping it chasing livestock but the sad truth is many people dont bother to instill basic commands I know many dog men who scoff when I say I need my dog to stop chasing when I say, not when it feels like it ,all you here is cant be much good then .The fact is the better the training the better the dog.I often walk ten lurchers of one type or another through fields of sheep none have leads on none chase all walk to heel all stand and watch rabbits running amongst the sheep none chase untill told.

[Ideation 8,216]

If we are walking in fields near a road and a rabbit jumps up in front of the dog and cuts trough the hedge into the road i would rather my dog didnt go after it into the path of oncoming traffic, if my dog is on a rabbit and the rabbit slips under a dry stone wall i would rather my dog didnt pile into the wall, although it is difficult, training to a whistle where one long blast means 'stop what your f*****g doing NOW' is very handy. No amount of shouting or swearing at the dog will stop it but the whistle cuts through. Obviously the longer its been 'on' the quarry the harder to call it off.

[rob190364 2,594]

Stopping a dog chasing game is as easy as stopping it chasing livestock but the sad truth is many people dont bother to instill basic commands I know many dog men who scoff when I say I need my dog to stop chasing when I say, not when it feels like it ,all you here is cant be much good then .The fact is the better the training the better the dog.I often walk ten lurchers of one type or another through fields of sheep none have leads on none chase all walk to heel all stand and watch rabbits running amongst the sheep none chase untill told.

it's nothing like the same as stopping it chasing livestock, you want it to catch rabbits etc. most of the time, you never want it to chase livestock so it shouldn't run after livestock no matter what.

[Ideation 8,216]

Stopping a dog chasing game is as easy as stopping it chasing livestock but the sad truth is many people dont bother to instill basic commands I know many dog men who scoff when I say I need my dog to stop chasing when I say, not when it feels like it ,all you here is cant be much good then .The fact is the better the training the better the dog.I often walk ten lurchers of one type or another through fields of sheep none have leads on none chase all walk to heel all stand and watch rabbits running amongst the sheep none chase untill told.

it's nothing like the same as stopping it chasing livestock, you want it to catch rabbits etc. most of the time, you never want it to chase livestock so it shouldn't run after livestock no matter what.

 

No but it is kind of similar to the control needed to do the following - take one hungry dog, make him sit, place a bowl of really tasty meat in front of him and watch him sit there for 10-15 mins wanting the food so bad but not moving a muscle, before you give a command and only then does he eat. Not quite but close. It's also how you tell the dog to leave things it doesnt understand yet - if i left my pup with my chickens i'd have dead chickens, but if i'm in their pen and he's with me i can see he wants them bad, and will take a pace toward them, and when i growl he stops dead and looks at me with a guilty look in his eye. If i walked away and came back ten mins later i'd be out of chickens.

[rob190364 2,594]

Stopping a dog chasing game is as easy as stopping it chasing livestock but the sad truth is many people dont bother to instill basic commands I know many dog men who scoff when I say I need my dog to stop chasing when I say, not when it feels like it ,all you here is cant be much good then .The fact is the better the training the better the dog.I often walk ten lurchers of one type or another through fields of sheep none have leads on none chase all walk to heel all stand and watch rabbits running amongst the sheep none chase untill told.

it's nothing like the same as stopping it chasing livestock, you want it to catch rabbits etc. most of the time, you never want it to chase livestock so it shouldn't run after livestock no matter what.

 

No but it is kind of similar to the control needed to do the following - take one hungry dog, make him sit, place a bowl of really tasty meat in front of him and watch him sit there for 10-15 mins wanting the food so bad but not moving a muscle, before you give a command and only then does he eat. Not quite but close. It's also how you tell the dog to leave things it doesnt understand yet - if i left my pup with my chickens i'd have dead chickens, but if i'm in their pen and he's with me i can see he wants them bad, and will take a pace toward them, and when i growl he stops dead and looks at me with a guilty look in his eye. If i walked away and came back ten mins later i'd be out of chickens.

I dunno, I'm not convinced instinct wouldn't take over with a sighthound.

[bendrover 556]

If you were walking along through a national trust woodland with your lurcher and a rabbit bolted you're lurcher would obviously chase it, and I would imagine with most dogs even if you called it back it wouldn't listen. If it caught and killed it but you had been calling it back to no avail, would you still get into trouble for that?

 

Same question if you were walking anywhere and a fox or hare bolted, I know it says that you should make every attempt to stop your dog but surely the level of your attempt to call it back is subjective? you could stand there whistling it and obviously it wouldn't listen, and if it was a lurcher after a hare it'd be miles away by the time it caught it so you couldn't possibly stop it.

 

In both these scenarios you might have just been taking your dog for a walk, it's not like you were intentionally hunting on their ground, even a grannies pet sighthound would chase a rabbit if it ran!

the law on this is quite clear now.THEY MUST prove it was deliberate act on your part to slip the dog or encourage the dog.

[rob190364 2,594]

If you were walking along through a national trust woodland with your lurcher and a rabbit bolted you're lurcher would obviously chase it, and I would imagine with most dogs even if you called it back it wouldn't listen. If it caught and killed it but you had been calling it back to no avail, would you still get into trouble for that?

 

Same question if you were walking anywhere and a fox or hare bolted, I know it says that you should make every attempt to stop your dog but surely the level of your attempt to call it back is subjective? you could stand there whistling it and obviously it wouldn't listen, and if it was a lurcher after a hare it'd be miles away by the time it caught it so you couldn't possibly stop it.

 

In both these scenarios you might have just been taking your dog for a walk, it's not like you were intentionally hunting on their ground, even a grannies pet sighthound would chase a rabbit if it ran!

the law on this is quite clear now.THEY MUST prove it was deliberate act on your part to slip the dog or encourage the dog.

what about if you didn't deliberately encourage or slip the dog, but blatantly didn't discourage it either....i.e. if you stood there like a drip and didn't do anything, I'm quite convincing when it comes to being a drip!

[kev2010 8]

Stopping a dog chasing game is as easy as stopping it chasing livestock but the sad truth is many people dont bother to instill basic commands I know many dog men who scoff when I say I need my dog to stop chasing when I say, not when it feels like it ,all you here is cant be much good then .The fact is the better the training the better the dog.I often walk ten lurchers of one type or another through fields of sheep none have leads on none chase all walk to heel all stand and watch rabbits running amongst the sheep none chase untill told.

it's nothing like the same as stopping it chasing livestock, you want it to catch rabbits etc. most of the time, you never want it to chase livestock so it shouldn't run after livestock no matter what.

 

No but it is kind of similar to the control needed to do the following - take one hungry dog, make him sit, place a bowl of really tasty meat in front of him and watch him sit there for 10-15 mins wanting the food so bad but not moving a muscle, before you give a command and only then does he eat. Not quite but close. It's also how you tell the dog to leave things it doesnt understand yet - if i left my pup with my chickens i'd have dead chickens, but if i'm in their pen and he's with me i can see he wants them bad, and will take a pace toward them, and when i growl he stops dead and looks at me with a guilty look in his eye. If i walked away and came back ten mins later i'd be out of chickens.

Spot on.Its called being the pack leader.I personally think this level of control is inportant if you have your dogs of lead in a public place or work them in the day in full veiw of the genral public as well as the reasons you already said.For me,when you have this level of trust,respect & control from your dog,that is when you can say you really work WITH your dog.Just my opinion.

[shotgunandy 2]

it is a legal requirement for a dog to be under control in public. therefore if your lurcher or any dog for that matter took off chasing anything and does not come back when called, regardless of whether it kills or not, you are liable for prosecution. if your dog will not come back when called it must remail on a lead at all times.

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andy

[hound dog 19]

Any dog man worth his salt should be able to stop his dog from chasing something he doesn't want it to. I'm not talking about calling a dog off mid race although this can also be done with the correct training. I'm talking about stopping a dog in it's first few paces letting it know what it's after in not on the menu at the present time. The simple word NO can save a whole lot of trouble when out and about IMO there is no excuse for letting an out of control poorly trained dog loose in the country side.

 

Barbara wood house wannabe.

[Butler 396]

Look lads take it as it is meant it's just an opinion but one that i believe in. They are your dogs and they will be trained to your standards but please don't put another man down for wanting more from a dog that a point and shoot hound. My dogs earn there keep and account for a little bit of stuff over the course of a season so i will stick to how i do things and you do your thing................................Happy hunting.

[rob190364 2,594]

Stopping a dog chasing game is as easy as stopping it chasing livestock but the sad truth is many people dont bother to instill basic commands I know many dog men who scoff when I say I need my dog to stop chasing when I say, not when it feels like it ,all you here is cant be much good then .The fact is the better the training the better the dog.I often walk ten lurchers of one type or another through fields of sheep none have leads on none chase all walk to heel all stand and watch rabbits running amongst the sheep none chase untill told.

it's nothing like the same as stopping it chasing livestock, you want it to catch rabbits etc. most of the time, you never want it to chase livestock so it shouldn't run after livestock no matter what.

 

No but it is kind of similar to the control needed to do the following - take one hungry dog, make him sit, place a bowl of really tasty meat in front of him and watch him sit there for 10-15 mins wanting the food so bad but not moving a muscle, before you give a command and only then does he eat. Not quite but close. It's also how you tell the dog to leave things it doesnt understand yet - if i left my pup with my chickens i'd have dead chickens, but if i'm in their pen and he's with me i can see he wants them bad, and will take a pace toward them, and when i growl he stops dead and looks at me with a guilty look in his eye. If i walked away and came back ten mins later i'd be out of chickens.

Spot on.Its called being the pack leader.I personally think this level of control is inportant if you have your dogs of lead in a public place or work them in the day in full veiw of the genral public as well as the reasons you already said.For me,when you have this level of trust,respect & control from your dog,that is when you can say you really work WITH your dog.Just my opinion.

all these people that say their dogs are so under control that they come back even when on a chase....what breed/mix of dog have you got? just out of interest? I'm keen to see if any of them are sighthounds or non-collie lurchers.

[Ideation 8,216]

If people can do it with trained attack dogs or guard dogs then you can do it with sight hounds