rob190364 2,594 Posted July 21, 2010 Report Share Posted July 21, 2010 If you were walking along through a national trust woodland with your lurcher and a rabbit bolted you're lurcher would obviously chase it, and I would imagine with most dogs even if you called it back it wouldn't listen. If it caught and killed it but you had been calling it back to no avail, would you still get into trouble for that? Same question if you were walking anywhere and a fox or hare bolted, I know it says that you should make every attempt to stop your dog but surely the level of your attempt to call it back is subjective? you could stand there whistling it and obviously it wouldn't listen, and if it was a lurcher after a hare it'd be miles away by the time it caught it so you couldn't possibly stop it. In both these scenarios you might have just been taking your dog for a walk, it's not like you were intentionally hunting on their ground, even a grannies pet sighthound would chase a rabbit if it ran! Quote Link to post
ferret-boy 44 Posted July 21, 2010 Report Share Posted July 21, 2010 well u cant win really can you because if u say that it just bolted then theyl just say prove it atb Quote Link to post
rob190364 2,594 Posted July 21, 2010 Author Report Share Posted July 21, 2010 well u cant win really can you because if u say that it just bolted then theyl just say prove it atb that's what I don't understand, if you're walking any sighthound and a rabbit bolts it will chase, even non sighthounds probably would....surely walking a sighthound off a lead isn't breaking the law! Quote Link to post
jambay5 191 Posted July 21, 2010 Report Share Posted July 21, 2010 You need to check local bylaws about dog being off the lead Quote Link to post
Guest deerhound hunter Posted July 21, 2010 Report Share Posted July 21, 2010 i don,t realy know ,but them laws have been but in place so the law will take action Quote Link to post
poacher3161 1,766 Posted July 21, 2010 Report Share Posted July 21, 2010 Due to past exspierince of a similar scenario you will get prosecuted as they will just say your dog SHOULD have been on the lead wich realy you have no excuse if it wasent. Though the magistrates will look at the circumstances and realy its in their hands the punishment they hand out i was lucky in only getting a £30 fine for the dog accidently catching an hare but this was before the stupid ban as i would dread to think wat it would be now with all the bad publicity lurchermen have had recently plus it didnt help i had previouse convictions for poaching.atb dell Quote Link to post
runforyourlife 361 Posted July 21, 2010 Report Share Posted July 21, 2010 You cant get into trouble for ccatching a rabbit! And if you dont want to say your dog caught it, say you did! and that it had mixi... As for the hare case, they need concrete evidence.. usually video footage... Proof at your home that you course hares etc.... Therer are very very few cases which axctually someone had got prosecuted for hare courseing... Quote Link to post
Butler 396 Posted July 21, 2010 Report Share Posted July 21, 2010 Any dog man worth his salt should be able to stop his dog from chasing something he doesn't want it to. I'm not talking about calling a dog off mid race although this can also be done with the correct training. I'm talking about stopping a dog in it's first few paces letting it know what it's after in not on the menu at the present time. The simple word NO can save a whole lot of trouble when out and about IMO there is no excuse for letting an out of control poorly trained dog loose in the country side. 1 Quote Link to post
poacher3161 1,766 Posted July 21, 2010 Report Share Posted July 21, 2010 You cant get into trouble for ccatching a rabbit! And if you dont want to say your dog caught it, say you did! and that it had mixi... As for the hare case, they need concrete evidence.. usually video footage... Proof at your home that you course hares etc.... Therer are very very few cases which axctually someone had got prosecuted for hare courseing... Thats proberbly so this day and age as years ago just the keepers say so could land you in court even if you wernt doing no wrong as false accusations once landed me in crown court even though i was only picking chesnuts at the time. Quote Link to post
rob190364 2,594 Posted July 21, 2010 Author Report Share Posted July 21, 2010 Any dog man worth his salt should be able to stop his dog from chasing something he doesn't want it to. I'm not talking about calling a dog off mid race although this can also be done with the correct training. I'm talking about stopping a dog in it's first few paces letting it know what it's after in not on the menu at the present time. The simple word NO can save a whole lot of trouble when out and about IMO there is no excuse for letting an out of control poorly trained dog loose in the country side. I'm not talking about some wild dog rampaging round the countryside, I mean it you were just on a park or something and a rabbit pops up. Thousands of people walk their dogs off the leads around parks and countryside!! If your dog was 30 yards away from you and a rabbit it appeared next to it, you're telling me that you saying "no" would stop it chasing it??? Quote Link to post
Butler 396 Posted July 21, 2010 Report Share Posted July 21, 2010 Any dog man worth his salt should be able to stop his dog from chasing something he doesn't want it to. I'm not talking about calling a dog off mid race although this can also be done with the correct training. I'm talking about stopping a dog in it's first few paces letting it know what it's after in not on the menu at the present time. The simple word NO can save a whole lot of trouble when out and about IMO there is no excuse for letting an out of control poorly trained dog loose in the country side. I'm not talking about some wild dog rampaging round the countryside, I mean it you were just on a park or something and a rabbit pops up. Thousands of people walk their dogs off the leads around parks and countryside!! If your dog was 30 yards away from you and a rabbit it appeared next to it, you're telling me that you saying "no" would stop it chasing it??? YES! Quote Link to post
rob190364 2,594 Posted July 21, 2010 Author Report Share Posted July 21, 2010 Any dog man worth his salt should be able to stop his dog from chasing something he doesn't want it to. I'm not talking about calling a dog off mid race although this can also be done with the correct training. I'm talking about stopping a dog in it's first few paces letting it know what it's after in not on the menu at the present time. The simple word NO can save a whole lot of trouble when out and about IMO there is no excuse for letting an out of control poorly trained dog loose in the country side. I'm not talking about some wild dog rampaging round the countryside, I mean it you were just on a park or something and a rabbit pops up. Thousands of people walk their dogs off the leads around parks and countryside!! If your dog was 30 yards away from you and a rabbit it appeared next to it, you're telling me that you saying "no" would stop it chasing it??? YES! OK, in that case forgive me for being so irresponsible as to let my dog have a bit of a wander in the park. No if you'll excuse me, I'm just off to give my ferrets a bollocking for removing biscuits from their dish when I distinctly told them not to this morning! Quote Link to post
Malt 379 Posted July 21, 2010 Report Share Posted July 21, 2010 Any dog man worth his salt should be able to stop his dog from chasing something he doesn't want it to. I'm not talking about calling a dog off mid race although this can also be done with the correct training. I'm talking about stopping a dog in it's first few paces letting it know what it's after in not on the menu at the present time. The simple word NO can save a whole lot of trouble when out and about IMO there is no excuse for letting an out of control poorly trained dog loose in the country side. I'm not talking about some wild dog rampaging round the countryside, I mean it you were just on a park or something and a rabbit pops up. Thousands of people walk their dogs off the leads around parks and countryside!! If your dog was 30 yards away from you and a rabbit it appeared next to it, you're telling me that you saying "no" would stop it chasing it??? YES! I agree. My lurcher stops dead in his tracks when I bark: 'LEAVE IT!!' at him, but my little bitch of a terrier just kind of slows down in the hope she can get far away enough from me to act deaf before I get to her and pick her up, does my fecking head in.. Hard headed little bitch.. Quote Link to post
rob190364 2,594 Posted July 21, 2010 Author Report Share Posted July 21, 2010 Any dog man worth his salt should be able to stop his dog from chasing something he doesn't want it to. I'm not talking about calling a dog off mid race although this can also be done with the correct training. I'm talking about stopping a dog in it's first few paces letting it know what it's after in not on the menu at the present time. The simple word NO can save a whole lot of trouble when out and about IMO there is no excuse for letting an out of control poorly trained dog loose in the country side. I'm not talking about some wild dog rampaging round the countryside, I mean it you were just on a park or something and a rabbit pops up. Thousands of people walk their dogs off the leads around parks and countryside!! If your dog was 30 yards away from you and a rabbit it appeared next to it, you're telling me that you saying "no" would stop it chasing it??? YES! I agree. My lurcher stops dead in his tracks when I bark: 'LEAVE IT!!' at him, but my little bitch of a terrier just kind of slows down in the hope she can get far away enough from me to act deaf before I get to her and pick her up, does my fecking head in.. Hard headed little bitch.. is that a collie lurcher? surely more dogs aren't that obedient when out and about are they??? Quote Link to post
rob190364 2,594 Posted July 21, 2010 Author Report Share Posted July 21, 2010 Any dog man worth his salt should be able to stop his dog from chasing something he doesn't want it to. I'm not talking about calling a dog off mid race although this can also be done with the correct training. I'm talking about stopping a dog in it's first few paces letting it know what it's after in not on the menu at the present time. The simple word NO can save a whole lot of trouble when out and about IMO there is no excuse for letting an out of control poorly trained dog loose in the country side. what a load of codswallop if you can call a dog of the game he was to catch he not much of a dog a you sure its not a gun dog you have. Thank you!! Quote Link to post
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