Catcher 1 639 Posted August 1, 2010 Report Share Posted August 1, 2010 Every time this thread comes up i think of a good reason why would i like a dog of this man. I can never come up with one.Untried lines and breeding on that scale to me is a no no.So why do people keep buying them.At least 50% has to be down to ego.A lot of people will buy a dog just for the name.They think the dog will come pre trained and get a shock when they relise its just like any other they could have bred them self.Seen many a Hancock dogs over the years most were just your normal working dog.Apart from Udisputed Blaze.Has to be one if not the best all round worker i have ever seen.I would put that down to the man who trained it.Good dogs only become great in the right hands. Quote Link to post
elpc69 0 Posted August 1, 2010 Report Share Posted August 1, 2010 yes but you only say that cause hancock and plummer blew you out, you wasn't good enough for there gang, still not good enough for any gang really, except the "poachers arse ticklers society"! HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH. . . . moron. I wondered when poachers head arse tickler was coming out to save him, I'd hoped you'd washed your fingers ideation, but no, your still typing shite! *Poacher* Not suprising other people have said the same, its the way you come across! Jealous knob with nothing better to do than moan on a forum about someone else, i would rather have dog from hancock that turbo who treats his dogs like the previous posts suggest, genuine dog man, yeah right, genuine knob! Quote Link to post
turbotyke 62 Posted August 1, 2010 Report Share Posted August 1, 2010 yes but you only say that cause hancock and plummer blew you out, you wasn't good enough for there gang, still not good enough for any gang really, except the "poachers arse ticklers society"! HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH. . . . moron. I wondered when poachers head arse tickler was coming out to save him, I'd hoped you'd washed your fingers ideation, but no, your still typing shite! *Poacher* Not suprising other people have said the same, its the way you come across! Jealous knob with nothing better to do than moan on a forum about someone else, i would rather have dog from hancock that turbo who treats his dogs like the previous posts suggest, genuine dog man, yeah right, genuine knob! think what you want im a lass by the way Quote Link to post
watchman 256 Posted August 1, 2010 Report Share Posted August 1, 2010 Every time this thread comes up i think of a good reason why would i like a dog of this man. I can never come up with one.Untried lines and breeding on that scale to me is a no no.So why do people keep buying them.At least 50% has to be down to ego.A lot of people will buy a dog just for the name.They think the dog will come pre trained and get a shock when they relise its just like any other they could have bred them self.Seen many a Hancock dogs over the years most were just your normal working dog.Apart from Udisputed Blaze.Has to be one if not the best all round worker i have ever seen.I would put that down to the man who trained it.Good dogs only become great in the right hands. complete bollox,i got mine off another member from this site,the right breeding for the right price,yes i know that statement in itself sais it all,we not all lucky enough to know untold dog lads that work them hard and make us think now there is a dog and i want a pup from it,ego,dont make me f*****g laugh,dont claim to have a good dog myself they just my dogs and do what i want them to end of,bold statement from a guy not even started his HANCOCK pup but i mean generally with any type of x,pre-trained,dont be a knob ,im a shit dog trainer but i get by,recall and retrieve thats all im interested in,a normal working dog is ok for a lot of people,sorry we dont all fit into the my dogs better than yours,and yes a good dog man will always get more from a dog than your average joe,ffs about time we give up this shite,kept bullx for 18 years and even im sick of the shite spouted on here about them,your drunkenly rob, Quote Link to post
poacher3161 1,766 Posted August 1, 2010 Report Share Posted August 1, 2010 yes but you only say that cause hancock and plummer blew you out, you wasn't good enough for there gang, still not good enough for any gang really, except the "poachers arse ticklers society"! what a reply . how old are you poacher i dont know why you bother with this lot. I know tomo i must be going daft in my old age either that or these fekin pain killers am on. Quote Link to post
Simoman 110 Posted August 1, 2010 Report Share Posted August 1, 2010 So off I went to Hancocks kennels, In truth I dont agree with his methods, that shouldnt surprise you as I cry at lassie films, but what you get is open and transparant, what you see is what you get, I had a 45 min tour, David Hancock told me that the RSPCA visited every 6 to 12 Months, now come on are we saying that the RSPCA would let Hancock's continue to trade if the dogs wernt in reasonable conditions, they are prolific in taking on people whom are treating there dogs / animals badly, both my dogs are 100% what I wanted, they will not be the best coursing dogs and Im sure they wont bring down any biison, but for a loyal companion, which loves to fill the pot and gives me the hours of pleasure, they are spot on, in my opinion too many people buy a pup and expect it to train itself, for your pup to achieve it's potential......you have to give it the time and effort it deserves. So you don't agree with his methods but paid for two of his pups, just a little hypocritical isn't it? You say your dogs are 100% what you want, well different folks have diiferent levels of expectation from there dogs. Its not about buying a pup and expecting it to train itself, if you wanted a working gundog/terrier/guard dog/sled dog etc etc you wouldn't trawl the free ads and its the same with a working lurcher. Answer this question, if you wanted a pup you would invest time and investigate litters for the best choice, would you A) purchase a pup from parents who have been tested and found to be good working dogs or B, Buy a pup from an ex-racer sired by a dog that has never been grafted and spends its life ina kennel or chain and is only let off to line bitches? Anybody who answers B is either a liar or a total messer............ Well I've had three so I guess that makes me a liar & a messer and dumb....I'm of to lie in a dark room. I've ripped all my Hancock posters of the wall and removed my I love Hancock sticker from my car....I'm crushed. Dog peddling has always gone on regardless of whether or not they come from someones back yard or a commercial breeder like DH. There may be the odd person that only breeds to keep lines going and only give pups to the chosen few. The vast majority of folk who breed dogs sell on excess pups...you only need to look in the adds in CMW. Sure Hancock does it on a grander scale but if he stopped trading tomorrow there would be a que a mile long to replace him. The thing that irks me the most about these posts are the majority of people who criticise the man haven't owned a dog from him. The argument about any good dogs coming from him being flukes due to the amount of pups he breeds is also flawed. As I said the vast majority of criticism comes from folk with little or no experience of his dogs. Undi, I agree peddling has always gone on, but hat doesnt make it right! As for the odd person breeding to keep lines going only and selling pups, well I guess Im lucky as most of my mates ONLY breed to replace and never sell yet gift the pups to working homes, but even if they did sell a couple of surplus pups the litter was never bred for ££££££££ No matter which way I look at it I can't find any way to justify breeding pups soley for profit from non working parents. P.S. I dont know poacher and dont aspire to lick his arse or join a club but I find his posts sensible.......... Quote Link to post
Catcher 1 639 Posted August 1, 2010 Report Share Posted August 1, 2010 Every time this thread comes up i think of a good reason why would i like a dog of this man. I can never come up with one.Untried lines and breeding on that scale to me is a no no.So why do people keep buying them.At least 50% has to be down to ego.A lot of people will buy a dog just for the name.They think the dog will come pre trained and get a shock when they relise its just like any other they could have bred them self.Seen many a Hancock dogs over the years most were just your normal working dog.Apart from Udisputed Blaze.Has to be one if not the best all round worker i have ever seen.I would put that down to the man who trained it.Good dogs only become great in the right hands. complete bollox,i got mine off another member from this site,the right breeding for the right price,yes i know that statement in itself sais it all,we not all lucky enough to know untold dog lads that work them hard and make us think now there is a dog and i want a pup from it,ego,dont make me f*****g laugh,dont claim to have a good dog myself they just my dogs and do what i want them to end of,bold statement from a guy not even started his HANCOCK pup but i mean generally with any type of x,pre-trained,dont be a knob ,im a shit dog trainer but i get by,recall and retrieve thats all im interested in,a normal working dog is ok for a lot of people,sorry we dont all fit into the my dogs better than yours,and yes a good dog man will always get more from a dog than your average joe,ffs about time we give up this shite,kept bullx for 18 years and even im sick of the shite spouted on here about them,your drunkenly rob, hI BUD If you disagree thats fine.And i will stick by my guns saying a lot of people only buy Hancock for the name.Ask yourself why would you buy a pup from a guy you dont know.Shit i can do that on line atb Catcher Quote Link to post
watchman 256 Posted August 1, 2010 Report Share Posted August 1, 2010 Every time this thread comes up i think of a good reason why would i like a dog of this man. I can never come up with one.Untried lines and breeding on that scale to me is a no no.So why do people keep buying them.At least 50% has to be down to ego.A lot of people will buy a dog just for the name.They think the dog will come pre trained and get a shock when they relise its just like any other they could have bred them self.Seen many a Hancock dogs over the years most were just your normal working dog.Apart from Udisputed Blaze.Has to be one if not the best all round worker i have ever seen.I would put that down to the man who trained it.Good dogs only become great in the right hands. complete bollox,i got mine off another member from this site,the right breeding for the right price,yes i know that statement in itself sais it all,we not all lucky enough to know untold dog lads that work them hard and make us think now there is a dog and i want a pup from it,ego,dont make me f*****g laugh,dont claim to have a good dog myself they just my dogs and do what i want them to end of,bold statement from a guy not even started his HANCOCK pup but i mean generally with any type of x,pre-trained,dont be a knob ,im a shit dog trainer but i get by,recall and retrieve thats all im interested in,a normal working dog is ok for a lot of people,sorry we dont all fit into the my dogs better than yours,and yes a good dog man will always get more from a dog than your average joe,ffs about time we give up this shite,kept bullx for 18 years and even im sick of the shite spouted on here about them,your drunkenly rob, hI BUD If you disagree thats fine.And i will stick by my guns saying a lot of people only buy Hancock for the name.Ask yourself why would you buy a pup from a guy you dont know.Shit i can do that on line atb Catcher im just piss bored with it mate and ego defo not the way for me thats all Quote Link to post
Catcher 1 639 Posted August 1, 2010 Report Share Posted August 1, 2010 Every time this thread comes up i think of a good reason why would i like a dog of this man. I can never come up with one.Untried lines and breeding on that scale to me is a no no.So why do people keep buying them.At least 50% has to be down to ego.A lot of people will buy a dog just for the name.They think the dog will come pre trained and get a shock when they relise its just like any other they could have bred them self.Seen many a Hancock dogs over the years most were just your normal working dog.Apart from Udisputed Blaze.Has to be one if not the best all round worker i have ever seen.I would put that down to the man who trained it.Good dogs only become great in the right hands. complete bollox,i got mine off another member from this site,the right breeding for the right price,yes i know that statement in itself sais it all,we not all lucky enough to know untold dog lads that work them hard and make us think now there is a dog and i want a pup from it,ego,dont make me f*****g laugh,dont claim to have a good dog myself they just my dogs and do what i want them to end of,bold statement from a guy not even started his HANCOCK pup but i mean generally with any type of x,pre-trained,dont be a knob ,im a shit dog trainer but i get by,recall and retrieve thats all im interested in,a normal working dog is ok for a lot of people,sorry we dont all fit into the my dogs better than yours,and yes a good dog man will always get more from a dog than your average joe,ffs about time we give up this shite,kept bullx for 18 years and even im sick of the shite spouted on here about them,your drunkenly rob, hI BUD If you disagree thats fine.And i will stick by my guns saying a lot of people only buy Hancock for the name.Ask yourself why would you buy a pup from a guy you dont know.Shit i can do that on line atb Catcher im just piss bored with it mate and ego defo not the way for me thats all Quote Link to post
watchman 256 Posted August 1, 2010 Report Share Posted August 1, 2010 Every time this thread comes up i think of a good reason why would i like a dog of this man. I can never come up with one.Untried lines and breeding on that scale to me is a no no.So why do people keep buying them.At least 50% has to be down to ego.A lot of people will buy a dog just for the name.They think the dog will come pre trained and get a shock when they relise its just like any other they could have bred them self.Seen many a Hancock dogs over the years most were just your normal working dog.Apart from Udisputed Blaze.Has to be one if not the best all round worker i have ever seen.I would put that down to the man who trained it.Good dogs only become great in the right hands. complete bollox,i got mine off another member from this site,the right breeding for the right price,yes i know that statement in itself sais it all,we not all lucky enough to know untold dog lads that work them hard and make us think now there is a dog and i want a pup from it,ego,dont make me f*****g laugh,dont claim to have a good dog myself they just my dogs and do what i want them to end of,bold statement from a guy not even started his HANCOCK pup but i mean generally with any type of x,pre-trained,dont be a knob ,im a shit dog trainer but i get by,recall and retrieve thats all im interested in,a normal working dog is ok for a lot of people,sorry we dont all fit into the my dogs better than yours,and yes a good dog man will always get more from a dog than your average joe,ffs about time we give up this shite,kept bullx for 18 years and even im sick of the shite spouted on here about them,your drunkenly rob, hI BUD If you disagree thats fine.And i will stick by my guns saying a lot of people only buy Hancock for the name.Ask yourself why would you buy a pup from a guy you dont know.Shit i can do that on line atb Catcher im just piss bored with it mate and ego defo not the way for me thats all i completely understand where your coming from but we aint all got one for the same reasons thats all i meant mate,cheers rob Quote Link to post
undisputed 1,664 Posted August 1, 2010 Report Share Posted August 1, 2010 Simo it's not the morality of selling pups on the scale he does that I'm arguing about. Your extremely fortunate to have access to pups the way you do. When I got my first pup from DH there were no sites around like this or even the Internet. So the only places open were theCMW or exchange & mart. Anyway it's the criticism levelled at folk who buy from him that's annoying. Yeah I might be a messer to some but the dogs I've owned from hm have done consistently well for me on anything I've used them on. I used to run one specific quarry and they've never been found wanting. Quote Link to post
Sully 3 Posted August 1, 2010 Report Share Posted August 1, 2010 hancock dogs arnt bred for work , there bred for money. am not saying you wont get a goodun off him but wouldnt you lads rather have one bred out of parents that were chosen because they were good at the job you want a pup for? What a crock of sh1te !!! Quote Link to post
Sully 3 Posted August 1, 2010 Report Share Posted August 1, 2010 Every time this thread comes up i think of a good reason why would i like a dog of this man. I can never come up with one.Untried lines and breeding on that scale to me is a no no.So why do people keep buying them.At least 50% has to be down to ego.A lot of people will buy a dog just for the name.They think the dog will come pre trained and get a shock when they relise its just like any other they could have bred them self.Seen many a Hancock dogs over the years most were just your normal working dog.Apart from Udisputed Blaze.Has to be one if not the best all round worker i have ever seen.I would put that down to the man who trained it.Good dogs only become great in the right hands. Sorry Catcher, but your talking rubbish, ego's !!! are you serious, ego's, down to us buying a dog from a specific breeder, now I know, your either pizzed up, or have simply lost the argument, an ego dog, is the nob eds walking the streets, we pitt bulls and staffy's, there jeans round their arses, baseball caps on wrong way, n a gold tooth, listening to Dizzy Rascal n N Dubz, Im a usual fella, love me food, women, dogs and football, oh and a pint every now and again, after reflecting, dont you think it was a bit silly to say that folk who buy from Mr Hancoick's do so because of our ego's, lol, made me giggle. Quote Link to post
Simoman 110 Posted August 1, 2010 Report Share Posted August 1, 2010 Simo it's not the morality of selling pups on the scale he does that I'm arguing about. Your extremely fortunate to have access to pups the way you do. When I got my first pup from DH there were no sites around like this or even the Internet. So the only places open were theCMW or exchange & mart. Anyway it's the criticism levelled at folk who buy from him that's annoying. Yeah I might be a messer to some but the dogs I've owned from hm have done consistently well for me on anything I've used them on. I used to run one specific quarry and they've never been found wanting. I think the messer phrase I used earlier was too strong, perhaps I am lucky knowing some great fellas, im sure your dogs have served you admirably and good luck for the future mate , I guess I just have a big problem breeding dogs purely for profit Quote Link to post
mackay 3,404 Posted August 1, 2010 Report Share Posted August 1, 2010 Every time this thread comes up i think of a good reason why would i like a dog of this man. I can never come up with one.Untried lines and breeding on that scale to me is a no no.So why do people keep buying them.At least 50% has to be down to ego.A lot of people will buy a dog just for the name.They think the dog will come pre trained and get a shock when they relise its just like any other they could have bred them self.Seen many a Hancock dogs over the years most were just your normal working dog.Apart from Udisputed Blaze.Has to be one if not the best all round worker i have ever seen.I would put that down to the man who trained it.Good dogs only become great in the right hands. You should be in politics mate, in one post you manage to down Hancock, anyone who goes to him, but at the same time claim that your mate (who I assume went to Hancock)has one of the best all rounders you've seen due to him and nothing to do with the dog or the breeding, whilst we're told daily on here breeding is all. Feck me, talk about wanting your cake and eating it. Quote Link to post
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