poacher3161 1,766 Posted July 29, 2010 Report Share Posted July 29, 2010 Now that post really shown how childish you are, I bought one as I couldn't find anyone reputable elsewhere and knew no different and I haven't said I support him or his business, but I don't bitch like an old dear, oh and Plummer again? Well you seem to be doing a good job of sticking up for him to say you dont support his business maybe he his a nice chap still no reason to buy a pup though. Quote Link to post
undisputed 1,664 Posted July 29, 2010 Report Share Posted July 29, 2010 we do our talking in the field pal. Same as hancock then we can prove to [NO TEXT TALK] what we do, by invitation only. what exactly is it that you do that makes your honest opinion count for shit? your always trying to pull people down, who's it going to be next? If pulling a puppy farmer down like hancock so be it if it stops only one person not buying one of him its job done Do you honestly think that you will stop anyone going to his yard...why does no one comment on all the dumped dogs in RSPCA kennels...lost count of the lurchers in their pens hardly ever see a Hancock dog there. There's pedlars all over the dog world...bullshitters & wasters who'll tell you anything to make a sale at least you know where you stand with Hancock. Quote Link to post
elpc69 0 Posted July 29, 2010 Report Share Posted July 29, 2010 Now that post really shown how childish you are, I bought one as I couldn't find anyone reputable elsewhere and knew no different and I haven't said I support him or his business, but I don't bitch like an old dear, oh and Plummer again? Well you seem to be doing a good job of sticking up for him to say you dont support his business maybe he his a nice chap still no reason to buy a pup though. Its not about sticking up for him, I gave my honest opinion on what I saw and how I was treated etc which in some respect differs from yours and the others wingers, mates who went once view on him and his dogs. Your just winging like a jillted lover about one puppy peddler, most dogs are bred in puppy farms these days, supply and demand dictates that weather you or anyone else agrees or not with it. The fact remains people like me and others have there lurcher bred by Hancock for one reason or other and quite happy with them. Quote Link to post
Casso 1,261 Posted July 30, 2010 Report Share Posted July 30, 2010 we do our talking in the field pal. Same as hancock then we can prove to [NO TEXT TALK] what we do, by invitation only. what exactly is it that you do that makes your honest opinion count for shit? your always trying to pull people down, who's it going to be next? If pulling a puppy farmer down like hancock so be it if it stops only one person not buying one of him its job done Do you honestly think that you will stop anyone going to his yard...why does no one comment on all the dumped dogs in RSPCA kennels...lost count of the lurchers in their pens hardly ever see a Hancock dog there. There's pedlars all over the dog world...bullshitters & wasters who'll tell you anything to make a sale at least you know where you stand with Hancock. The man just dont like dogs been farmed, i can see his point, dont think much of it either, There also is a lot of lads out there who live for their dogs and will bred an odd litter , fair enough and make a few bob, but i dont think the hancock yard are really bothered where the pups end up when they leave , any decent lurcher man will be more than interested in the progress of any pup that leaves his premises ,,and maybe if it stops someone going to their yard , it will be a job well done,, Quote Link to post
poacher3161 1,766 Posted July 30, 2010 Report Share Posted July 30, 2010 Now that post really shown how childish you are, I bought one as I couldn't find anyone reputable elsewhere and knew no different and I haven't said I support him or his business, but I don't bitch like an old dear, oh and Plummer again? Well you seem to be doing a good job of sticking up for him to say you dont support his business maybe he his a nice chap still no reason to buy a pup though. Its not about sticking up for him, I gave my honest opinion on what I saw and how I was treated etc which in some respect differs from yours and the others wingers, mates who went once view on him and his dogs. Your just winging like a jillted lover about one puppy peddler, most dogs are bred in puppy farms these days, supply and demand dictates that weather you or anyone else agrees or not with it. The fact remains people like me and others have there lurcher bred by Hancock for one reason or other and quite happy with them. TBH i dont give a shit about hancock the reason being i would never buy a pup off him though i would buy a pup off one of his dogs that some one had bred for the right reasons not just out of ex track dogs that are just used and abused to supply puppies for his business and if most dogs are bred in puppy farms it dosent make it right imho. Quote Link to post
whin 463 Posted July 30, 2010 Report Share Posted July 30, 2010 puppy peddlars are the worst evil for working lurchers at times i bought a dog of hanckock twenty years ago ,she was a good bitch but due to me not her i grafted traind her etc , got to the 92 hunting trails, but when i look at the dogs ive bred and had and worked the hanckcks are no were as good ,the lurcher world dont need peddlara i wished the were more scarce lke 25 years ago and less idiots with them its a sad fact lurchers ferrets atract the idiots of life and then you meet the odd genune person ,any body who thinks going to apuppy farm is the way forward aint never bred or had good dogs as non worker to non worker is definitly not the way forward Quote Link to post
whin 463 Posted July 30, 2010 Report Share Posted July 30, 2010 puppy peddlars are the worst evil for working lurchers at times i bought a dog of hanckock twenty years ago ,she was a good bitch but due to me not her i grafted traind her etc , got to the 92 hunting trails, but when i look at the dogs ive bred and had and worked the hanckcks are no were as good ,the lurcher world dont need peddlara i wished the were more scarce lke 25 years ago and less idiots with them its a sad fact lurchers ferrets atract the idiots of life and then you meet the odd genune person ,any body who thinks going to apuppy farm is the way forward aint never bred or had good dogs as non worker to non worker is definitly not the way forward Quote Link to post
Ideation 8,216 Posted July 30, 2010 Report Share Posted July 30, 2010 Now that post really shown how childish you are, I bought one as I couldn't find anyone reputable elsewhere and knew no different and I haven't said I support him or his business, but I don't bitch like an old dear, oh and Plummer again? Well you seem to be doing a good job of sticking up for him to say you dont support his business maybe he his a nice chap still no reason to buy a pup though. Its not about sticking up for him, I gave my honest opinion on what I saw and how I was treated etc which in some respect differs from yours and the others wingers, mates who went once view on him and his dogs. Your just winging like a jillted lover about one puppy peddler, most dogs are bred in puppy farms these days, supply and demand dictates that weather you or anyone else agrees or not with it. The fact remains people like me and others have there lurcher bred by Hancock for one reason or other and quite happy with them. Quote Link to post
Ashover rabbit dogs 76 Posted July 30, 2010 Report Share Posted July 30, 2010 all puppy farms should be shut down, but its not just puppy farms that need to be stopped, my friend recently got ripped off with a pup they where buying from a GENUINE place, they went paid good money for the pup. when they got home and checked the envelope they got with the pup the docking papers and vacc cert where no where to be seen. the pup was supposed to be legaly docked, chipped and vaccinated it wasnt poor thing hadnt even been wormed. at least hancock parvo vaccinates his pups and iv never seen a worm riddled pup from him. Quote Link to post
elpc69 0 Posted July 30, 2010 Report Share Posted July 30, 2010 Well said ash! You want a lurcher you know your getting it from him, how many add's for lurchers, that are not what they claim to be, where are people supposed to go if there starting out just like you did once upon a time or one man hunters? Even in the for sale section of this site and can't be sure if you ould of get ripped off, end up with a dud and thats even after wading through the ones with replies calling them peddlers for selling pups! Being full of hate doesnt solve the problem, do something constructive about it! Quote Link to post
Ashover rabbit dogs 76 Posted July 30, 2010 Report Share Posted July 30, 2010 Well said ash! You want a lurcher you know your getting it from him, how many add's for lurchers, that are not what they claim to be, where are people supposed to go if there starting out just like you did once upon a time or one man hunters? Even in the for sale section of this site and can't be sure if you ould of get ripped off, end up with a dud and thats even after wading through the ones with replies calling them peddlers for selling pups! Being full of hate doesnt solve the problem, do something constructive about it! well said mate. Quote Link to post
Casso 1,261 Posted July 30, 2010 Report Share Posted July 30, 2010 Well said ash! You want a lurcher you know your getting it from him, how many add's for lurchers, that are not what they claim to be, where are people supposed to go if there starting out just like you did once upon a time or one man hunters? Even in the for sale section of this site and can't be sure if you ould of get ripped off, end up with a dud and thats even after wading through the ones with replies calling them peddlers for selling pups! Being full of hate doesnt solve the problem, do something constructive about it! I've always hunted on my todd, and what i've found is, their are some really decent people in this game, very willing to help a fella out with a pup among other things, i detect a certain snobbery and a fear of having one pulled over you in some posts on this thread, Picking a pup from handcock also shows a little inexperience of the lurcher world ,and the hancock bought pup seems like one way of addressing that lack of knowledge,and dealing with lurchermen, The fact that people are still buying out of his yard,after all these years, probably says more about the state of the lurcher world rather than the ability of his dogs, Never should anyone with an ounce of compassion for dogs buy from a dog breeding farm , Their are decent people in the game, communication and common sense are the key,, Quote Link to post
Guest reload Posted July 30, 2010 Report Share Posted July 30, 2010 I would buy one because I love to support puppy farming Quote Link to post
graham4877 1,181 Posted July 30, 2010 Report Share Posted July 30, 2010 all puppy farms should be shut down, but its not just puppy farms that need to be stopped, my friend recently got ripped off with a pup they where buying from a GENUINE place, they went paid good money for the pup. when they got home and checked the envelope they got with the pup the docking papers and vacc cert where no where to be seen. the pup was supposed to be legaly docked, chipped and vaccinated it wasnt poor thing hadnt even been wormed. at least hancock parvo vaccinates his pups and iv never seen a worm riddled pup from him. was the dog's born in the uk? All this papers n chip's is all for the vet's to make£££££ Have you seen the vet's dock a pup before I have and its was like been in the butchers! They love the blood don't they as that mean's it need's stitches So thats more ££££ for the vet! Where is i have seen many dog's docked by my dad and his old man and not one bit of blood or a yelp!! This was all before the law was changed! end of the day This hancock Dose not even WALK his dog's, stuck in a kennel 24/7 soon as they come in to heat they get raped year in year out!! You's can all say well i did not no anyone with the X i wanted till your blue in the face! If you wanted a X like that so much you would wait for the right one! 1 Quote Link to post
Sully 3 Posted July 30, 2010 Report Share Posted July 30, 2010 Some people really do live in dream land, have you seen the state of some litters, reportedly from real deal lurcher men, full of flea's, skinny as hell, full of worms, in a real sh1t state, in some allotment somewhere, Ive seen them advertised on this very forum !!! I make no bones that I know very little pro rata to many on this site, but what I do know is what I want !, not even you can tell me that ! I wanted a specific make up of a dog, I'd looked everywhere and couldnt find a litter that I 100% believed to be what I required, I drove all the way to Winsford, Cheshire, £ in hand, me and the kids were excited as hell, was told " yea sire and dam will be here for you to see" well I looked at the litter and cant be 100% sure but I know bull x's when I see them, and guess what the GH dam was there but the collie sire was out, all this when I was promised both parents could be seen at this time. So off I went to Hancocks kennels, In truth I dont agree with his methods, that shouldnt surprise you as I cry at lassie films, but what you get is open and transparant, what you see is what you get, I had a 45 min tour, David Hancock told me that the RSPCA visited every 6 to 12 Months, now come on are we saying that the RSPCA would let Hancock's continue to trade if the dogs wernt in reasonable conditions, they are prolific in taking on people whom are treating there dogs / animals badly, both my dogs are 100% what I wanted, they will not be the best coursing dogs and Im sure they wont bring down any biison, but for a loyal companion, which loves to fill the pot and gives me the hours of pleasure, they are spot on, in my opinion too many people buy a pup and expect it to train itself, for your pup to achieve it's potential......you have to give it the time and effort it deserves. Ps Ive turned my lights off at home and put me flack jacket on and me tin hat, I await the lambasting Im bound to get. Craig. Quote Link to post
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