hancock dogs

[taff3915 2]

My pup is 4 months now and I know what people on here say about his dogs and the conditions they live in. Some of his dogs probably dont go to homes much better after leaving him. But anyways I have got her and Im a firm believer that a dog is what you make it. Since day one she has fitted right in with my shepherd , cats and kiddies. She was crate broken in an hour and house trained in a day. Retrieving too hand from the first day i got her , sits , down position and walking to the heel. Not saying she is 100% yet but she is clever and out on walks if she does clock birds, rabbits and squirrels she is straight on them. Before anyone jumps down my throat I do not encourage her and dont go looking. But from what I am seeing at this age she is looking very promising. Dont know if this is of any help

[Ideation 8,216]

My pup is 4 months now and I know what people on here say about his dogs and the conditions they live in. Some of his dogs probably dont go to homes much better after leaving him. But anyways I have got her and Im a firm believer that a dog is what you make it. Since day one she has fitted right in with my shepherd , cats and kiddies. She was crate broken in an hour and house trained in a day. Retrieving too hand from the first day i got her , sits , down position and walking to the heel. Not saying she is 100% yet but she is clever and out on walks if she does clock birds, rabbits and squirrels she is straight on them. Before anyone jumps down my throat I do not encourage her and dont go looking. But from what I am seeing at this age she is looking very promising. Dont know if this is of any help

 

 

Sounds like a good pup you have mate and thats great. However just because you MAY get a good one is no reason to buy an animal that will hopefully be with you for ten years or more. I'd want good grafting parents. Also i think that to continue to support his puppy farm whist in the knowledge of what goes in there shows a lack of respect for lurchers and dogs in general. There are so many other options of where to get a pup from out there - why pick this one? Honestly - i think it's due to lack of knowledge or experience.

 

 

Out of interest what initially led you to Hancocks door?

[undisputed 1,664]

My pup is 4 months now and I know what people on here say about his dogs and the conditions they live in. Some of his dogs probably dont go to homes much better after leaving him. But anyways I have got her and Im a firm believer that a dog is what you make it. Since day one she has fitted right in with my shepherd , cats and kiddies. She was crate broken in an hour and house trained in a day. Retrieving too hand from the first day i got her , sits , down position and walking to the heel. Not saying she is 100% yet but she is clever and out on walks if she does clock birds, rabbits and squirrels she is straight on them. Before anyone jumps down my throat I do not encourage her and dont go looking. But from what I am seeing at this age she is looking very promising. Dont know if this is of any help

 

 

Sounds like a good pup you have mate and thats great. However just because you MAY get a good one is no reason to buy an animal that will hopefully be with you for ten years or more. I'd want good grafting parents. Also i think that to continue to support his puppy farm whist in the knowledge of what goes in there shows a lack of respect for lurchers and dogs in general. There are so many other options of where to get a pup from out there - why pick this one? Honestly - i think it's due to lack of knowledge or experience.

 

 

Out of interest what initially led you to Hancocks door?

 

Just how does buying a pup from Hancock show a lack of respect to lurchers in general? Have you owned a dog from his kennel?...as for options they're pretty limited when looking for a particular cross. Unless you breed one yourself there's no telling what's in a pup. Seen plenty of back door sellers with very poor conditions so bit of a lottery anyway you look at it

[mackay 3,328]

My pup is 4 months now and I know what people on here say about his dogs and the conditions they live in. Some of his dogs probably dont go to homes much better after leaving him. But anyways I have got her and Im a firm believer that a dog is what you make it. Since day one she has fitted right in with my shepherd , cats and kiddies. She was crate broken in an hour and house trained in a day. Retrieving too hand from the first day i got her , sits , down position and walking to the heel. Not saying she is 100% yet but she is clever and out on walks if she does clock birds, rabbits and squirrels she is straight on them. Before anyone jumps down my throat I do not encourage her and dont go looking. But from what I am seeing at this age she is looking very promising. Dont know if this is of any help

 

 

Sounds like a good pup you have mate and thats great. However just because you MAY get a good one is no reason to buy an animal that will hopefully be with you for ten years or more. I'd want good grafting parents. Also i think that to continue to support his puppy farm whist in the knowledge of what goes in there shows a lack of respect for lurchers and dogs in general. There are so many other options of where to get a pup from out there - why pick this one? Honestly - i think it's due to lack of knowledge or experience.

 

 

Out of interest what initially led you to Hancocks door?

 

The rescue centres are full of dogs bred from good grafting parents.. fact.

The majority of people I know who have Hancock bred dogs are happy with them, probably a higher average than people going to the real deal breeders but that's not likely to be compared or proven.

Whilst I don't agree with the volume of pups bred in his kennels the fact remains, you get what it says on the tin, ie half cross border collie greyhound is just that, and whilst I agree you can't make a silk purse from a sows ear an owners influence cetainly has a bearing on the finished item, sadly however the average lurcherman is a complete and utter tosspot who will ruin many dogs of various breeding before he admits defeat and moves on to anotheer pastime but will however claim to be an authority on lurchers and claim to be an expert and the twenty, thirty or more lurchers that have passed through their hands have been substandard, nothing to do with them. I have an equation, the fewer the dogs the better the man, for a good dogman will succeed where a lesser man will fail..

[taff3915 2]

My pup is 4 months now and I know what people on here say about his dogs and the conditions they live in. Some of his dogs probably dont go to homes much better after leaving him. But anyways I have got her and Im a firm believer that a dog is what you make it. Since day one she has fitted right in with my shepherd , cats and kiddies. She was crate broken in an hour and house trained in a day. Retrieving too hand from the first day i got her , sits , down position and walking to the heel. Not saying she is 100% yet but she is clever and out on walks if she does clock birds, rabbits and squirrels she is straight on them. Before anyone jumps down my throat I do not encourage her and dont go looking. But from what I am seeing at this age she is looking very promising. Dont know if this is of any help

 

 

Sounds like a good pup you have mate and thats great. However just because you MAY get a good one is no reason to buy an animal that will hopefully be with you for ten years or more. I'd want good grafting parents. Also i think that to continue to support his puppy farm whist in the knowledge of what goes in there shows a lack of respect for lurchers and dogs in general. There are so many other options of where to get a pup from out there - why pick this one? Honestly - i think it's due to lack of knowledge or experience.

 

 

Out of interest what initially led you to Hancocks door?

 

To be honest I wanted this particular breed which I may not have got from else where, I still waited for her. The comment about support and lack of respect is rubbish. If I had not stepped up and bought her someone else on his waiting list would of the guy has been round years and i dont think the odd person buying else where will put him out of business.

Edited July 18, 2010 by taff3915

[uno 62]

has any one had pup from hancock where a dog called luke was sire or grandsire,beardie :kiss:

[watchman 256]

has any one had pup from hancock where a dog called luke was sire or grandsire,beardie :kiss:

the grandsire to my pup is luke,sire was cyril

luke

cyril

my bitch pup

[turbotyke 62]

has anyone got a pup sired by alfie bearded collie border collie greyhound

[uno 62]

has any one had pup from hancock where a dog called luke was sire or grandsire,beardie :kiss:

the grandsire to my pup is luke,sire was cyril

im looking for pic of luke,cant see much on his website,its shite,will have to look in his marvelous book,lol.cheers.

[uno 62]

cheers watchman

[watchman 256]

cheers watchman

no prob mate

[KittleRox 2,147]

My pup is 4 months now and I know what people on here say about his dogs and the conditions they live in. Some of his dogs probably dont go to homes much better after leaving him. But anyways I have got her and Im a firm believer that a dog is what you make it. Since day one she has fitted right in with my shepherd , cats and kiddies. She was crate broken in an hour and house trained in a day. Retrieving too hand from the first day i got her , sits , down position and walking to the heel. Not saying she is 100% yet but she is clever and out on walks if she does clock birds, rabbits and squirrels she is straight on them. Before anyone jumps down my throat I do not encourage her and dont go looking. But from what I am seeing at this age she is looking very promising. Dont know if this is of any help

 

 

Sounds like a good pup you have mate and thats great. However just because you MAY get a good one is no reason to buy an animal that will hopefully be with you for ten years or more. I'd want good grafting parents. Also i think that to continue to support his puppy farm whist in the knowledge of what goes in there shows a lack of respect for lurchers and dogs in general. There are so many other options of where to get a pup from out there - why pick this one? Honestly - i think it's due to lack of knowledge or experience.

 

 

Out of interest what initially led you to Hancocks door?

 

The rescue centres are full of dogs bred from good grafting parents.. fact.

The majority of people I know who have Hancock bred dogs are happy with them, probably a higher average than people going to the real deal breeders but that's not likely to be compared or proven.

Whilst I don't agree with the volume of pups bred in his kennels the fact remains, you get what it says on the tin, ie half cross border collie greyhound is just that, and whilst I agree you can't make a silk purse from a sows ear an owners influence cetainly has a bearing on the finished item, sadly however the average lurcherman is a complete and utter tosspot who will ruin many dogs of various breeding before he admits defeat and moves on to anotheer pastime but will however claim to be an authority on lurchers and claim to be an expert and the twenty, thirty or more lurchers that have passed through their hands have been substandard, nothing to do with them. I have an equation, the fewer the dogs the better the man, for a good dogman will succeed where a lesser man will fail..

well said mackay,i think alot of lurchermen don,t know what working a dog means

[Ideation 8,216]

My pup is 4 months now and I know what people on here say about his dogs and the conditions they live in. Some of his dogs probably dont go to homes much better after leaving him. But anyways I have got her and Im a firm believer that a dog is what you make it. Since day one she has fitted right in with my shepherd , cats and kiddies. She was crate broken in an hour and house trained in a day. Retrieving too hand from the first day i got her , sits , down position and walking to the heel. Not saying she is 100% yet but she is clever and out on walks if she does clock birds, rabbits and squirrels she is straight on them. Before anyone jumps down my throat I do not encourage her and dont go looking. But from what I am seeing at this age she is looking very promising. Dont know if this is of any help

 

 

Sounds like a good pup you have mate and thats great. However just because you MAY get a good one is no reason to buy an animal that will hopefully be with you for ten years or more. I'd want good grafting parents. Also i think that to continue to support his puppy farm whist in the knowledge of what goes in there shows a lack of respect for lurchers and dogs in general. There are so many other options of where to get a pup from out there - why pick this one? Honestly - i think it's due to lack of knowledge or experience.

 

 

Out of interest what initially led you to Hancocks door?

 

The rescue centres are full of dogs bred from good grafting parents.. fact.

The majority of people I know who have Hancock bred dogs are happy with them, probably a higher average than people going to the real deal breeders but that's not likely to be compared or proven.

Whilst I don't agree with the volume of pups bred in his kennels the fact remains, you get what it says on the tin, ie half cross border collie greyhound is just that, and whilst I agree you can't make a silk purse from a sows ear an owners influence cetainly has a bearing on the finished item, sadly however the average lurcherman is a complete and utter tosspot who will ruin many dogs of various breeding before he admits defeat and moves on to anotheer pastime but will however claim to be an authority on lurchers and claim to be an expert and the twenty, thirty or more lurchers that have passed through their hands have been substandard, nothing to do with them. I have an equation, the fewer the dogs the better the man, for a good dogman will succeed where a lesser man will fail..

 

Thats a good point matey and very true. All i was saying was that when i pick a dog i expect it to be about with me for the duration of its life. As such i feel its ok to spend some time, as long as it takes, seeking out the right pup. Hancock is an easy answer. The respect thing is this - i don't think wanting a certain cross and the fact that other people also go to him would be enough of a reason for me to go and buy a pup from a bloke who not only does not work his dogs but actually never even excercises them? I would count this as animal cruelty. It's a puppy farm simple and i would not support it.

[taff3915 2]

My pup is 4 months now and I know what people on here say about his dogs and the conditions they live in. Some of his dogs probably dont go to homes much better after leaving him. But anyways I have got her and Im a firm believer that a dog is what you make it. Since day one she has fitted right in with my shepherd , cats and kiddies. She was crate broken in an hour and house trained in a day. Retrieving too hand from the first day i got her , sits , down position and walking to the heel. Not saying she is 100% yet but she is clever and out on walks if she does clock birds, rabbits and squirrels she is straight on them. Before anyone jumps down my throat I do not encourage her and dont go looking. But from what I am seeing at this age she is looking very promising. Dont know if this is of any help

 

 

Sounds like a good pup you have mate and thats great. However just because you MAY get a good one is no reason to buy an animal that will hopefully be with you for ten years or more. I'd want good grafting parents. Also i think that to continue to support his puppy farm whist in the knowledge of what goes in there shows a lack of respect for lurchers and dogs in general. There are so many other options of where to get a pup from out there - why pick this one? Honestly - i think it's due to lack of knowledge or experience.

 

 

Out of interest what initially led you to Hancocks door?

 

The rescue centres are full of dogs bred from good grafting parents.. fact.

The majority of people I know who have Hancock bred dogs are happy with them, probably a higher average than people going to the real deal breeders but that's not likely to be compared or proven.

Whilst I don't agree with the volume of pups bred in his kennels the fact remains, you get what it says on the tin, ie half cross border collie greyhound is just that, and whilst I agree you can't make a silk purse from a sows ear an owners influence cetainly has a bearing on the finished item, sadly however the average lurcherman is a complete and utter tosspot who will ruin many dogs of various breeding before he admits defeat and moves on to anotheer pastime but will however claim to be an authority on lurchers and claim to be an expert and the twenty, thirty or more lurchers that have passed through their hands have been substandard, nothing to do with them. I have an equation, the fewer the dogs the better the man, for a good dogman will succeed where a lesser man will fail..

 

Thats a good point matey and very true. All i was saying was that when i pick a dog i expect it to be about with me for the duration of its life. As such i feel its ok to spend some time, as long as it takes, seeking out the right pup. Hancock is an easy answer. The respect thing is this - i don't think wanting a certain cross and the fact that other people also go to him would be enough of a reason for me to go and buy a pup from a bloke who not only does not work his dogs but actually never even excercises them? I would count this as animal cruelty. It's a puppy farm simple and i would not support it.

 

Fully respect what your saying I dont like the conditions either, I personally didnt go to his kennels a friend went on my behalf we are both dog handlers in the services so know a little about kennel conditions. My friend obviously told about the conditions and smell which both by all accounts were shocking. But I have her now and wouldnt change it for the world. Its the inspectors who look over his kennels regular who keep him going.

[poacher3161 1,766]

My pup is 4 months now and I know what people on here say about his dogs and the conditions they live in. Some of his dogs probably dont go to homes much better after leaving him. But anyways I have got her and Im a firm believer that a dog is what you make it. Since day one she has fitted right in with my shepherd , cats and kiddies. She was crate broken in an hour and house trained in a day. Retrieving too hand from the first day i got her , sits , down position and walking to the heel. Not saying she is 100% yet but she is clever and out on walks if she does clock birds, rabbits and squirrels she is straight on them. Before anyone jumps down my throat I do not encourage her and dont go looking. But from what I am seeing at this age she is looking very promising. Dont know if this is of any help

 

 

Sounds like a good pup you have mate and thats great. However just because you MAY get a good one is no reason to buy an animal that will hopefully be with you for ten years or more. I'd want good grafting parents. Also i think that to continue to support his puppy farm whist in the knowledge of what goes in there shows a lack of respect for lurchers and dogs in general. There are so many other options of where to get a pup from out there - why pick this one? Honestly - i think it's due to lack of knowledge or experience.

 

 

Out of interest what initially led you to Hancocks door?

 

The rescue centres are full of dogs bred from good grafting parents.. fact.

The majority of people I know who have Hancock bred dogs are happy with them, probably a higher average than people going to the real deal breeders but that's not likely to be compared or proven.

Whilst I don't agree with the volume of pups bred in his kennels the fact remains, you get what it says on the tin, ie half cross border collie greyhound is just that, and whilst I agree you can't make a silk purse from a sows ear an owners influence cetainly has a bearing on the finished item, sadly however the average lurcherman is a complete and utter tosspot who will ruin many dogs of various breeding before he admits defeat and moves on to anotheer pastime but will however claim to be an authority on lurchers and claim to be an expert and the twenty, thirty or more lurchers that have passed through their hands have been substandard, nothing to do with them. I have an equation, the fewer the dogs the better the man, for a good dogman will succeed where a lesser man will fail..

 

Thats a good point matey and very true. All i was saying was that when i pick a dog i expect it to be about with me for the duration of its life. As such i feel its ok to spend some time, as long as it takes, seeking out the right pup. Hancock is an easy answer. The respect thing is this - i don't think wanting a certain cross and the fact that other people also go to him would be enough of a reason for me to go and buy a pup from a bloke who not only does not work his dogs but actually never even excercises them? I would count this as animal cruelty. It's a puppy farm simple and i would not support it.

I totally agree.I have nothing against his dogs watso ever just his methods and plummers back in the day to make out the cross was some thing it was not to boost sales by writeing a book full of exsagerated claims about the start of hancocks puppy pedling dynasty.The reason i never got one back then [early 80s] one i had my own lurcher to lurcher bred dogs that i was more than happy with and i could sense some of the bullshit surrounding these dogs as they were being peddled to be superior to most mongrely bred lurchers at the time and after seeing one of the first wat was ever bred on a couple of occasions coursing it was evident they were no better than most lurcher to lurcher bred dogs despite the adverts saying different.atb dell