puppy fat ?????

[davey&ace 1]

ive got a 9 month old bull breed and she seems to have realy thick skin, is this fat and will she still carry puppy fat at 9 months old? any ideas lads

Edited July 15, 2010 by davey&ace

[phil_h 53]

put some pics up mate.

[davey&ace 1]

i havent got any at the moment sorry mate, do you no anything about puppy fat tho and when they start losing it?

[Guest OUT FOXING]

i normally keep them fat till they around 12month pal

[skycat 6,173]

Puppy fat will disappear of its own accord when the pup finishes growing, PROVIDING the dog is getting the right amount of exercise and it is not being overfed or fed the wrong type of food. Raw fed dogs which are not being filled with a lot of cereal will have a leaner appearance generaly. Cereal fed dogs often appear 'stodgy'.

 

Different types of lurcher have different thickness of skin depending on their breeding. Bull crosses will have thicker skin than Whippet/Greys for example. The 'thickness' of the skin you describe may also be due to the fact that the pup has yet to grow into its skin: heavy breeds seem to have more loose skin than the more sighthoundy lurchers, and this skin will appear to shrink to fit the adult body: actually, the dog has just grown into its skin.

[Casso 1,261]

ive got a 9 month old bull breed and she seems to have realy thick skin, is this fat and will she still carry puppy fat at 9 months old? any ideas lads

 

 

Puppy fat is just a phrase, its just that pups are conditioned to eat huge amounts of grub, its in there nature, its whether they get a chance to balance that intake with exercise , if not , you'll get a pup carrying a bit, walking on its own wont shift it , playing and free running with another pup and work will burn up huge reserves of fat, in saying that its completly natural for a pup to be carrying a bit at that age , i would go as far as say, well done sounds like you've done a good job with the pup,,best of luck with her,,

[dirty twister 31]

Puppy fat will disappear of its own accord when the pup finishes growing, PROVIDING the dog is getting the right amount of exercise and it is not being overfed or fed the wrong type of food. Raw fed dogs which are not being filled with a lot of cereal will have a leaner appearance generaly. Cereal fed dogs often appear 'stodgy'.

 

Different types of lurcher have different thickness of skin depending on their breeding. Bull crosses will have thicker skin than Whippet/Greys for example. The 'thickness' of the skin you describe may also be due to the fact that the pup has yet to grow into its skin: heavy breeds seem to have more loose skin than the more sighthoundy lurchers, and this skin will appear to shrink to fit the adult body: actually, the dog has just grown into its skin.

Elaborate please how cereal fed dogs appear "stodgy"

[poacher9991 10]

DOGS GROW TILLABUOT 18 MONTHS OLD BEST KEEP THEN FAT TILL 12 MONTHS OLD THEN START EXERCISEING THEM A BIT HARDER IT WILL SOON GO

[skycat 6,173]

Puppy fat will disappear of its own accord when the pup finishes growing, PROVIDING the dog is getting the right amount of exercise and it is not being overfed or fed the wrong type of food. Raw fed dogs which are not being filled with a lot of cereal will have a leaner appearance generaly. Cereal fed dogs often appear 'stodgy'.

 

Different types of lurcher have different thickness of skin depending on their breeding. Bull crosses will have thicker skin than Whippet/Greys for example. The 'thickness' of the skin you describe may also be due to the fact that the pup has yet to grow into its skin: heavy breeds seem to have more loose skin than the more sighthoundy lurchers, and this skin will appear to shrink to fit the adult body: actually, the dog has just grown into its skin.

Elaborate please how cereal fed dogs appear "stodgy"

 

I just knew that someone would pick up on this and I'm not against all cereals, but as they're mostly carbs they do tend to make a dog put on weight more easily. Since I have been feeding 99% raw I've noticed that my pups don't carry that extra weight when they're growing up. They're leaner, lighter in weight and more active, grow just as well, muscle up when they should but never seem to have the 'puppy fat' look mentioned by the original poster.

 

Even my Airedale, which I would class as heavy, was never puppy fat when growing up, though she did have loads of extra skin: being originally a sort of water dog they do have more subcutaneous fat than sighthounds, but I made sure I could always feel her ribs.

 

When I used to feed high protein/carb very expensive complete foods I noticed that the pups always carried more blubber under their skin, no matter how little I fed them. I can't state categorically or scientifically why this is but I put it down to unnecessary carbs. Of course some pups will put on weight more easily than others, just like people, but I don't believe that pups should be kept fat whilst growing as too much weight can put unnecessary strain on growing joints and bones.

 

Heavy breed lurchers like Bull crosses will of course carry more puppy fat as I said before, but they shouldn't be podgy, roly poly fat.

[Casso 1,261]

Balance is the key, a working dog needs a balanced diet not excesses one way or another,, the canine body has a marvelous escape chanel for what is termed excesses,, too much protein and the body converts it to nitogen waste and eliminates it in its urine,, other signs of excesses in the diet are runny eyes or tear stains, extreme shedding and itchy skin, chewing its feet is another one, So its not just the physical appearance of the animal , look for other signs as well , a chubby pup does not mean a bad diet, ,A full protein diet can produce fast growth in bone . which can leave the rest of the body playing catch up because its not developing at the same rate, tendons , ligments etc which can lead to probs in later life,,

[davey&ace 1]

thanks for all your replys they`ve been more than helpful, i dont think im over feeding her and i take her out twice a day once on the bike and a walk later, im giving her wainwright from pets at home is this food good for her and im giving her thr recomended amount in 2 meals.

[Night Hunter 109]

ive got a 9 month old bull breed and she seems to have realy thick skin, is this fat and will she still carry puppy fat at 9 months old? any ideas lads

My wifes 42year old and shes still carrying loads...lol

[dirty twister 31]

Puppy fat will disappear of its own accord when the pup finishes growing, PROVIDING the dog is getting the right amount of exercise and it is not being overfed or fed the wrong type of food. Raw fed dogs which are not being filled with a lot of cereal will have a leaner appearance generaly. Cereal fed dogs often appear 'stodgy'.

 

Different types of lurcher have different thickness of skin depending on their breeding. Bull crosses will have thicker skin than Whippet/Greys for example. The 'thickness' of the skin you describe may also be due to the fact that the pup has yet to grow into its skin: heavy breeds seem to have more loose skin than the more sighthoundy lurchers, and this skin will appear to shrink to fit the adult body: actually, the dog has just grown into its skin.

Elaborate please how cereal fed dogs appear "stodgy"

 

 

I just knew that someone would pick up on this and I'm not against all cereals, but as they're mostly carbs they do tend to make a dog put on weight more easily. Since I have been feeding 99% raw I've noticed that my pups don't carry that extra weight when they're growing up. They're leaner, lighter in weight and more active, grow just as well, muscle up when they should but never seem to have the 'puppy fat' look mentioned by the original poster.

 

Even my Airedale, which I would class as heavy, was never puppy fat when growing up, though she did have loads of extra skin: being originally a sort of water dog they do have more subcutaneous fat than sighthounds, but I made sure I could always feel her ribs.

 

When I used to feed high protein/carb very expensive complete foods I noticed that the pups always carried more blubber under their skin, no matter how little I fed them. I can't state categorically or scientifically why this is but I put it down to unnecessary carbs. Of course some pups will put on weight more easily than others, just like people, but I don't believe that pups should be kept fat whilst growing as too much weight can put unnecessary strain on growing joints and bones.

 

Heavy breed lurchers like Bull crosses will of course carry more puppy fat as I said before, but they shouldn't be podgy, roly poly fat.

ahh! I see it was just YOUR opinion,IMHO cereal fed dogs don't appear "stodgy".Infact i'm off to my local greyhound track in an hour or two to see my mate he will have some hounds in the back of his van that are fed on cereal/kibble(as are most racers) and there wont be a "stodgy" one amongst them, and there's acouple sat in my kennel that aren't "stodgy" either.Dont get me wrong skycat i do agree with alot of what Dr Billinghurst says its just i feed kibble in my feeding structure alongside raw human grade minced beef(with various supplements) and they run very well on it and look very well on it.

[jacko 1]

this ones the same mate , 9 months next week , hes got a thick layer of fat all over , was going to cut his food a bit , i think i'll leave it till hes a bit older after reading this thread. . jacko.

[whip x grey 276]

its nice to see fatt on pups right up to 12/14months,,,,,,,dont worry she will run it off

 

when adults feed is sightly cut,,,,cos a fatt dog not a healthy dog ,,,,ull know what ur dogs running weight will be,,,,as ur the owner,,and what she will run/work at