PIGEON SHOOTING

[tillylamp 1,828]

hi,

i went out on the fields today for a bit of pigeon shooting,cos I was gonna try some different cartridges. Out of the seven I got only one was a clean kill and all the others weren't even near dead. One shot just maimed and didn't kill them. I had to kill them my self which I have never had to do before. I really believe that these new cartridges that I got are to blame. In all my time of shooting this had never ever happened until today.

 

I was hitting them at the correct distance and on impact you knew you had hit the bird cos of all the feathers that flew off them and yet they still mananaged to fly away so I had to shot it twice in the air to stop it flying off injured. I know a bad tradesman blames his tools but these cartridges are crap.

 

Has anyone else had the same experience with these cartridges? They are made in Italy and in the picture you can see the box with the name.

 

TL

[watchman 256]

i haven't used those before but iv started using these recently,also made in italy lol,lower end of the market price but don't seem to be having any probs with them,

28gr hard shot

[willum 89]

rc sipe's mate are a good cartridge i havent had any problems with kills mate ? nor have i with rio's which are budget for your bang use 32 5 and 6's and i use rc itallia 30grm no probs try changing your chokes or ya point of aim mate sounds silly but give it a try may work for ya if not put on pattern plate see whats going on compared to your norm cart's any way atb willum

[kobidog 1]

Well thats strange because i have found that these cartridges work great with my 20 bore, maybe your gun just doesn't like them...

[country gent 0]

hi,

i went out on the fields today for a bit of pigeon shooting,cos I was gonna try some different cartridges. Out of the seven I got only one was a clean kill and all the others weren't even near dead. One shot just maimed and didn't kill them. I had to kill them my self which I have never had to do before. I really believe that these new cartridges that I got are to blame. In all my time of shooting this had never ever happened until today.

 

I was hitting them at the correct distance and on impact you knew you had hit the bird cos of all the feathers that flew off them and yet they still mananaged to fly away so I had to shot it twice in the air to stop it flying off injured. I know a bad tradesman blames his tools but these cartridges are crap.

 

Has anyone else had the same experience with these cartridges? They are made in Italy and in the picture you can see the box with the name.

 

TL

 

tbh mate there a pretty good cartridge, i know alot of lads who use them as a 'high bird or roost shooting' cartridge. you maybe just got a bad box? iv used them on driven pheasants and they dont half fold them up. im not saying there the best but just what iv found

[activeviii 8]

snipes are a very good cartridge. it maybe that the smi are close to the speed of your old carts and the snipes are a wee bit slower. because of this you are hitting the bum of the bird and shedding feather or clipping the wind when it is downwards stroke. because their slower cartridge try aiming for the eye of the bird and this will bring you shot up and forward resulting in a dead bird.

 

 

are the smi's the ones with the gas check value in them?

 

 

give the carts another go but take into account what the speed is and shot weight, slower, heavier carts need a little more lead.

 

ATB

Phil.

[badgerboy 3]

hi,

i went out on the fields today for a bit of pigeon shooting,cos I was gonna try some different cartridges. Out of the seven I got only one was a clean kill and all the others weren't even near dead. One shot just maimed and didn't kill them. I had to kill them my self which I have never had to do before. I really believe that these new cartridges that I got are to blame. In all my time of shooting this had never ever happened until today.

 

I was hitting them at the correct distance and on impact you knew you had hit the bird cos of all the feathers that flew off them and yet they still mananaged to fly away so I had to shot it twice in the air to stop it flying off injured. I know a bad tradesman blames his tools but these cartridges are crap.

 

Has anyone else had the same experience with these cartridges? They are made in Italy and in the picture you can see the box with the name.

 

TL

my dads been using sipe in 20 bore and has had no problems with them clean kills in fact he is so inpressed with them he has just brought 10,000 of them greedy git

alot of the pigeon boys i know use the 12 bore ones you show and think they are great

Edited July 24, 2010 by badgerboy

[samearl14 11]

I find the 12 bore sipes to be a superb cartridge. Particularly for high driven pheasants and high pigeons. Just from my own experiences with them.

Sam

[nod 285]

no such thing as a bad cartridge, person behind the gun maybe

[tillylamp 1,828]

hi,

after reading all your replys it seems that my choice of words are wrong about these cartridges for that i appologise,

it must be that this cartridge does not suit my gun or me.i will go back to my original cartridges.

thanks for your input.

TL

[SEAN3513 7]

i would say its down to cartridge speed.........a little bit more in front may cure the problem

 

i always stick to one make/size etc.......you are certainly more consistent if you do.

 

good luck

 

atb

 

sean

[danebrewer10 6]

the carts may be a bit slower or faster so consequently you may be hitting them with the edge of the pattern and not catching them right in the middle, otherwise get some big paper, I'd suggest two widths of wrapping paper taped together and pattern them, the cart/chokes/gun combo may not suit.

also confidence I find plays a big part, if you don't believe in your equipment and aren't confident in it, then you won't do so well...

DB

[clint 45]

When change cartrage, in well loved gun. Sometime take time to see where pattern is from barrel, & maybe you have to change shoot style to suit, this . Thro leaf in river, or water, shoot from bank, see pattern on water, maybe left/right/high/low to ususal.

Edited August 5, 2010 by clint