untested studs

[pbrookes 450]

we all go on about only having pups from dogs that have been tested to the max but how many on here have dogs bred from well bred dogs tht have spent their life on a chain. for example goulds spartacus. there must be thousands of ofspring out there that work and how many times was the dog dug to, not many. not slagging the dog had pups myself from him, some good ones too and used to be good mates with ken when the dog was around, flint too but dosnt it kind of blow the theory out of the water. thoughts please.

[bullethead 4]

there are always going to be breeders around that will use untested stock,,especially if money is involved but folks will always say "bred to produce" as an excuse,,personally the only time i would use an untested stud is if i had first hand knowledge that all or most of its littermates made the grade and this was the only dog bred that way left..

many successful lines of gamedogs been based on untested or cold studs that are"bred to produce" so it comes as no surprise many other working terriers/longdogs etc are formulated this way--in my eyes worker to worker unless you have no other option open to you..

[NBW Terrier 16]

pbrokes please correct me if i'm wrong but some days ago we were talking about with my mates what doe's the 'well tested' or as you said 'tested to the max' means? In former post many of you said it means the dog must be over on at least 3 hard worked seasons. It is a measurable expectation. But what does the 'season' means for you and for me?

You can dig foxes, and that season takes some months long for you and for your dogs. For me the whole year is season. We can dig foxes from the begin of Jan till the end of March. We can dig fox cubs from March till May. We can dig badger from the 1st of June till the 28th of Feb.

If you're considering the above we can dig 3 times more from our dog than you can.

So, I think I understand what does the 'proven worker' mean, but what about season?

How many season should I let my dog work for marking them as 'well proven'?

 

(otherwise I don't know the answer to your original question, but as we were talking about this, it came to mind and I thought I ask)

Edited July 13, 2010 by NBW Terrier

[Guest Leveller]

"Untested stud" are two words that should never go together

[NBW Terrier 16]

True.

[specktacular007 2]

pbrokes please correct me if i'm wrong but some days ago we were talking about with my mates what doe's the 'well tested' or as you said 'tested to the max' means? In former post many of you said it means the dog must be over on at least 3 hard worked seasons. It is a measurable expectation. But what does the 'season' means for you and for me?

You can dig foxes, and that season takes some months long for you and for your dogs. For me the whole year is season. We can dig foxes from the begin of Jan till the end of March. We can dig fox cubs from March till May. We can dig badger from the 1st of June till the 28th of Feb.

If you're considering the above we can dig 3 times more from our dog than you can.

So, I think I understand what does the 'proven worker' mean, but what about season?

How many season should I let my dog work for marking them as 'well proven'?

 

(otherwise I don't know the answer to your original question, but as we were talking about this, it came to mind and I thought I ask)

 

 

Good post sir....

[Guest stewie]

we all go on about only having pups from dogs that have been tested to the max but how many on here have dogs bred from well bred dogs tht have spent their life on a chain. for example goulds spartacus. there must be thousands of ofspring out there that work and how many times was the dog dug to, not many. not slagging the dog had pups myself from him, some good ones too and used to be good mates with ken when the dog was around, flint too but dosnt it kind of blow the theory out of the water. thoughts please.

thousands :icon_eek: get a life man ffs

[smelly dog 16]

You cannot change what has been done before, you can only change what you do yourself

[pbrookes 450]

we all go on about only having pups from dogs that have been tested to the max but how many on here have dogs bred from well bred dogs tht have spent their life on a chain. for example goulds spartacus. there must be thousands of ofspring out there that work and how many times was the dog dug to, not many. not slagging the dog had pups myself from him, some good ones too and used to be good mates with ken when the dog was around, flint too but dosnt it kind of blow the theory out of the water. thoughts please.

thousands :icon_eek: get a life man ffs

what u mean get a life . there are sons, daughters, g sons, gt grandsons all over

the world that go back to that dog. he must have mated hundreds of bitches

it was just a question to see peoples thoughts clever f****r

[dytkos 17,818]

"Untested stud" are two words that should never go together

 

Feck me, first time I've agreed with you. Cheers, D.

[Simoman 110]

"Untested stud" are two words that should never go together

 

 

I agree, although levs has taken it to the next level and has "untested stud" printed on his leopard skin thongs.............

[Cleanspade 3,324]

pbrokes please correct me if i'm wrong but some days ago we were talking about with my mates what doe's the 'well tested' or as you said 'tested to the max' means? In former post many of you said it means the dog must be over on at least 3 hard worked seasons. It is a measurable expectation. But what does the 'season' means for you and for me?

You can dig foxes, and that season takes some months long for you and for your dogs. For me the whole year is season. We can dig foxes from the begin of Jan till the end of March. We can dig fox cubs from March till May. We can dig badger from the 1st of June till the 28th of Feb.

If you're considering the above we can dig 3 times more from our dog than you can.

So, I think I understand what does the 'proven worker' mean, but what about season?

How many season should I let my dog work for marking them as 'well proven'?

 

(otherwise I don't know the answer to your original question, but as we were talking about this, it came to mind and I thought I ask)

 

i believe breeding is the most important factor in produceing good stock. but if you work them for a few seasons. then you know they are sound also.

[Guest Leveller]

I agree, although levs has taken it to the next level and has "untested stud" printed on his leopard skin thongs.............

 

Says the man with the cleanest spade I've ever seen

[Simoman 110]

I agree, although levs has taken it to the next level and has "untested stud" printed on his leopard skin thongs.............

 

Says the man with the cleanest spade I've ever seen

 

Bulldog shovels are expensive, there is no way i'm getting dirt on it!!!! I'll bring it with my darn sarf this season and let you muddy it!! :kiss:

[Cajunrules 8]

I agree, although levs has taken it to the next level and has "untested stud" printed on his leopard skin thongs.............

 

Says the man with the cleanest spade I've ever seen

 

Bulldog shovels are expensive, there is no way i'm getting dirt on it!!!! I'll bring it with my darn sarf this season and let you muddy it!! :kiss:

 

There you go, he's going to let you muddy his tool. Sorry