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[scothunter 12,609]

its pretty obvious some of you dont know anything about being alchohol dependent.i trully and sincerlry hope that none of your friends or family suffer from this illness.cause clearly you will brand them a loser and disown them,cause they brought it on themselfs.lets hope if it does happen to your family there will be sympathetic people and someone who actually knows what there talking about to help them.must be great living the perfect life eh guys.

[tb25 4,627]

its pretty obvious some of you dont know anything about being alchohol dependent.i trully and sincerlry hope that none of your friends or family suffer from this illness.cause clearly you will brand them a loser and disown them,cause they brought it on themselfs.lets hope if it does happen to your family there will be sympathetic people and someone who actually knows what there talking about to help them.must be great living the perfect life eh guys.

well said

[Lab 10,979]

its pretty obvious some of you dont know anything about being alchohol dependent.i trully and sincerlry hope that none of your friends or family suffer from this illness.cause clearly you will brand them a loser and disown them,cause they brought it on themselfs.lets hope if it does happen to your family there will be sympathetic people and someone who actually knows what there talking about to help them.must be great living the perfect life eh guys.

Well that would be completely diff then wouldn't it if it was a friend or family member because you would have an emotional tie with that person. In that case i would do everything in my power to help them. If they threw it back in my face for doing so they would be on there own i'm afraid.

Is Gordon Ramsay a cold hearted prick because he doesn't help his smackhead of a brother..........no!!! He has tried and had it thrown back in his face.

There are people out there who want the help and people who dont and gazza falls into the latter, so he can take his own path as far as i am concerned.

[scothunter 12,609]

its pretty obvious some of you dont know anything about being alchohol dependent.i trully and sincerlry hope that none of your friends or family suffer from this illness.cause clearly you will brand them a loser and disown them,cause they brought it on themselfs.lets hope if it does happen to your family there will be sympathetic people and someone who actually knows what there talking about to help them.must be great living the perfect life eh guys.

Well that would be completely diff then wouldn't it if it was a friend or family member because you would have an emotional tie with that person. In that case i would do everything in my power to help them. If they threw it back in my face for doing so they would be on there own i'm afraid.

Is Gordon Ramsay a cold hearted prick because he doesn't help his smackhead of a brother..........no!!! He has tried and had it thrown back in his face.

There are people out there who want the help and people who dont and gazza falls into the latter, so he can take his own path as far as i am concerned.

 

clearly dont know what your talking about.yea cause alcholics listen to reason and common sence. as for gordon ramsey no he is just a prick in general.well good to see you would try and help a family member,but going by your past post on gazza maybe be better if that family member didnt get help from you and went to someone who actually had some knowledge of the problem.

[gnasher16 30,441]

 

 

Still trying to pigeon hole me eh gnasher? :laugh

Money helped him to get the best re-hab thats what i mean and you cant disagree with that (but you will) , he also had an army of friends to help him along the way....maybe that was part of his downfall?

Oh and al have my say on whatever subject i like and if ever i am wrong with 'facts' then i'm sure you will be there to correct me........sir! You are a fountain of knowledge gnasher, i am not worthy

 

 

Pigeon hole you ...there to correct you ....who are you then do we know each other,to me you are a name on an internet forum nothing more nothing less i wasnt aware we had ever communicated before,to be honest i dont really pay much attention to peoples names,other than a few whos writings i find particularly interesting.......and your not one of them

 

Money can help get the greatest physical and mental help available to man,doctors with letters after their name in pretty white gowns in scenic country grounds like the Priory and the like.......until a person admits to having an addiction its money down the toilet as any person who has been through such lows in life will tell you.Its a mental illness not a physical one no amount of money in the world can change your mental state.

 

 

edited to add.....read the 2 lines below my posts its words i live by and could possibly be of help to you and my guess is you are ignorant as opposed to stupid

Edited July 11, 2010 by gnasher16

[Lab 10,979]

its pretty obvious some of you dont know anything about being alchohol dependent.i trully and sincerlry hope that none of your friends or family suffer from this illness.cause clearly you will brand them a loser and disown them,cause they brought it on themselfs.lets hope if it does happen to your family there will be sympathetic people and someone who actually knows what there talking about to help them.must be great living the perfect life eh guys.

Well that would be completely diff then wouldn't it if it was a friend or family member because you would have an emotional tie with that person. In that case i would do everything in my power to help them. If they threw it back in my face for doing so they would be on there own i'm afraid.

Is Gordon Ramsay a cold hearted prick because he doesn't help his smackhead of a brother..........no!!! He has tried and had it thrown back in his face.

There are people out there who want the help and people who dont and gazza falls into the latter, so he can take his own path as far as i am concerned.

 

clearly dont know what your talking about.yea cause alcholics listen to reason and common sence. as for gordon ramsey no he is just a prick in general.well good to see you would try and help a family member,but going by your past post on gazza maybe be better if that family member didnt get help from you and went to someone who actually had some knowledge of the problem.

Used Gordon Ramsay as an example thats all. Like how you dodged that and just thought "f**k it al just call him a prick"

And when did i say i was this world famous expert on alcohlism, i never. I gave an opinion on something and a couple of you decided to take offence to that.

Since you like your scenarios heres 1 then. An alcoholic jumps in his car, crashes and kills a few innocent people........still feel sorry for him now?

[scothunter 12,609]

gordon ramsey is a prick.i didnt dodge anything! good for him if helped him.but he clearly isnt a family orenintated person now is he/never saw or spoke to his sister in years.so i have my doubts to actually how far he went in helping his brother.as for your scenario well i wouldnt class it any diffrent from any drunk driver,who got in his car and killed a load of people.same as there loads who walk about a building sites everyday.either under the influence of drink or weed.that was a weak attempt at a scenario.

[Lab 10,979]

 

 

Still trying to pigeon hole me eh gnasher? :laugh

Money helped him to get the best re-hab thats what i mean and you cant disagree with that (but you will) , he also had an army of friends to help him along the way....maybe that was part of his downfall?

Oh and al have my say on whatever subject i like and if ever i am wrong with 'facts' then i'm sure you will be there to correct me........sir! You are a fountain of knowledge gnasher, i am not worthy

 

 

Pigeon hole you ...there to correct you ....who are you then do we know each other,to me you are a name on an internet forum nothing more nothing less i wasnt aware we had ever communicated before,to be honest i dont really pay much attention to peoples names,other than a few whos writings i find particularly interesting.......and your not one of them

 

Money can help get the greatest physical and mental help available to man,doctors with letters after their name in pretty white gowns in scenic country grounds like the Priory and the like.......until a person admits to having an addiction its money down the toilet as any person who has been through such lows in life will tell you.Its a mental illness not a physical one no amount of money in the world can change your mental state.

 

 

edited to add.....read the 2 lines below my posts its words i live by and could possibly be of help to you and my guess is you are ignorant as opposed to stupid

"There to correct me" as i said you are fountain of knowlede mate. Face it if you dont like it then that person must be..wrong. In this post i have been ignorant, jealous, a child and heartless...all because i have no sympathy for a man who is an alcoholic and refuses to get the help.

[scothunter 12,609]

You two should meet up & have a DRINK

 

not a good idea lol

[poacher3161 1,766]

I wish i could understand alcholisim better as i have seen wat its done to close freinds i just thank my lucky stars that i have not got an addictive personality despite having to have had to put up with my fair share of shit in my life it just saddens me nowadays [bANNED TEXT] you see young people thats dependant on drink were as 30 years ago it was unheard of maybe nowadays its because they are better looked after by the state in terms of sickness benefits but i am still of the opinion its an illness that you have got to be cruel to be kind to some people to get their state of mind to kick the habit.

[Guest AngelicAcid]

Some take to help, some dont.

Some find SOMETHING they always wanted and searched using chemicals, Beleive me, im an alchoholic , and have been since my first drink.

 

I did 2 detoxes :sick: , and lost close friends and family , and I Drank even more , STRANGE how the human Mind works though.

 

I was on and off the stuff for 20 odd years, and only stopped since getting me self a family sorted.

 

Ive got a lot nmore open mind now, but still couldnt give 2 fucks about most things, and love to Touch the edge.

[scothunter 12,609]

agreed angela some people like dell said have a very addictive personality.whether it be drink drugs anything really.and here a fact most people that are alchol dependant dont even realise it.a man comes home everyday after a hard days graft and has a few beers and a cpl halfs thinks he is ok.ask him to go a week without that drink.then he will soon realise if he craves it or not.the youth of today are no diffrent than i was when i was growing up in the 80s.f**k all to do but get pissed with your mates.as there were f**k all jobs and no prospect of one.granted the young ones nowadys are a certainly out of control in some areas,but thats a lot to do with not handling your drink.i aint touched a drink in years now.but i quite easily go to the boozer right now and a have a sesh.but the cons outweight the pros.and i wasnt exactly the nicest person with a drink in me.

[Guest AngelicAcid]

Ive been lucky mate, Infact very lucky indeed.

I fell out with all my so called mates, and all of my family, lost some ok jobs, and basically went mental at the same time.

 

Love life now, and couldnt give 2 fucks about else anything but my family and what i have left hunting wise.

 

Just additcted to good stuff now though.

[poacher3161 1,766]

I still think the opening hours had a lot to do with it or it seemed that way it was o.k wile the goverment was rakeing all the exstra cash in creating a culture of binge drinking but [bANNED TEXT] they realised the cost of treating the problem started complaining about it

[Guest AngelicAcid]

I was told by a very clever bloke about 10 years ago, that this country would have an epidemic of alcholism in the next 5 years, and he was bang on the money.