Leeview 791 Posted July 5, 2010 Report Share Posted July 5, 2010 At the end of the day if the lads are doing it to keep their permission fair play as who wouldent want to keep a permission in a rabbiting paradise like the dales as lets face it their not the hardest of rabbits to catch with nice spongey ground in some areas for the dogs to run on and some warrens that can be dug with a desert spoon [bANNED TEXT] the ferret kills in.The first time i went up their in the 80s ferreting it was like landing on another planet [bANNED TEXT] all i had been used to ferreting was woodland and thick gorse and bramble coverd bankings. Im up there weekly Dell and at present the ground is far from spongey the sphagnum moss is dried and deep cracks are appearing in what used to be like walking across a waterbed it was that spongey, not hard to get big bags due to the numbers of rabbits up there but exerting dogs to several runs in the current heatwave shows little respect for the dogs and ferrets Y.I.S Leeview Quote Link to post
blackwhippet 7 Posted July 5, 2010 Report Share Posted July 5, 2010 At the end of the day if the lads are doing it to keep their permission fair play as who wouldent want to keep a permission in a rabbiting paradise like the dales as lets face it their not the hardest of rabbits to catch with nice spongey ground in some areas for the dogs to run on and some warrens that can be dug with a desert spoon [bANNED TEXT] the ferret kills in.The first time i went up their in the 80s ferreting it was like landing on another planet [bANNED TEXT] all i had been used to ferreting was woodland and thick gorse and bramble coverd bankings. Im up there weekly Dell and at present the ground is far from spongey the sphagnum moss is dried and deep cracks are appearing in what used to be like walking across a waterbed it was that spongey, not hard to get big bags due to the numbers of rabbits up there but exerting dogs to several runs in the current heatwave shows little respect for the dogs and ferrets Y.I.S Leeview You do it your way Leeview , we do it ours , as for lack of respect for the dogs and ferrets that`s bollocks, these dogs have the desire and stamina to do it, we don`t run them anywhere near as hard as we do in winter and as soon as we get back to the truck they have electrlyte and a rinse down. How do you think whippets are worked in Australia or other hot climates? we have a job to do and the whippets do it well for us. It must be working as I`ve picked up 3 big farms in the Dales so far this year by recomendation from other farmers Quote Link to post
supersam 64 Posted July 5, 2010 Report Share Posted July 5, 2010 At the end of the day if the lads are doing it to keep their permission fair play as who wouldent want to keep a permission in a rabbiting paradise like the dales as lets face it their not the hardest of rabbits to catch with nice spongey ground in some areas for the dogs to run on and some warrens that can be dug with a desert spoon [bANNED TEXT] the ferret kills in.The first time i went up their in the 80s ferreting it was like landing on another planet [bANNED TEXT] all i had been used to ferreting was woodland and thick gorse and bramble coverd bankings. Im up there weekly Dell and at present the ground is far from spongey the sphagnum moss is dried and deep cracks are appearing in what used to be like walking across a waterbed it was that spongey, not hard to get big bags due to the numbers of rabbits up there but exerting dogs to several runs in the current heatwave shows little respect for the dogs and ferrets Y.I.S Leeview i agree, i got slated in a previous post by the usual no it alls as it is called at this time of year by some "pest control" can be carried out by different method,s.surely snaring or shootin them is preferable than using ferrets and running dogs at this time of year where temps are over 20 degrees and the ground is like concrete? Quote Link to post
Chickens4ever05 22 Posted July 5, 2010 Author Report Share Posted July 5, 2010 as for other methods niegther of us shoot and we all know snaring has to be check morning and night and a 2 hour drive aint feesable, as for winter crop its called grass used to make silage, haylage and hay. dontr worry about us if you dont like it dont post if you had the permission to go on you would be at it yourself, why is it always leeview on working whippet post having ago, think you need to spend more time in the field letting the dogs and ferrte do the job they love the ground at this place is nice ground for running on and one the more piecs still very wet. happy hunting all Tom Quote Link to post
Leeview 791 Posted July 5, 2010 Report Share Posted July 5, 2010 At the end of the day if the lads are doing it to keep their permission fair play as who wouldent want to keep a permission in a rabbiting paradise like the dales as lets face it their not the hardest of rabbits to catch with nice spongey ground in some areas for the dogs to run on and some warrens that can be dug with a desert spoon [bANNED TEXT] the ferret kills in.The first time i went up their in the 80s ferreting it was like landing on another planet [bANNED TEXT] all i had been used to ferreting was woodland and thick gorse and bramble coverd bankings. Im up there weekly Dell and at present the ground is far from spongey the sphagnum moss is dried and deep cracks are appearing in what used to be like walking across a waterbed it was that spongey, not hard to get big bags due to the numbers of rabbits up there but exerting dogs to several runs in the current heatwave shows little respect for the dogs and ferrets Y.I.S Leeview You do it your way Leeview , we do it ours , as for lack of respect for the dogs and ferrets that`s bollocks, these dogs have the desire and stamina to do it, we don`t run them anywhere near as hard as we do in winter and as soon as we get back to the truck they have electrlyte and a rinse down. How do you think whippets are worked in Australia or other hot climates? we have a job to do and the whippets do it well for us. It must be working as I`ve picked up 3 big farms in the Dales so far this year by recomendation from other farmers How on earth "dont your whippets run anywhere near as hard a we do in winter" and it takes 2 of them to catch a young rabbit do you miss many this way through bolting while your dogs are after the same rabbit? Or do they bolt differently in summer as opposed to winter? Id be carrying the electrolytes with me not waiting till they get back to the car Y.I.S Leeview Quote Link to post
Leeview 791 Posted July 5, 2010 Report Share Posted July 5, 2010 as for other methods niegther of us shoot and we all know snaring has to be check morning and night and a 2 hour drive aint feesable, as for winter crop its called grass used to make silage, haylage and hay. dontr worry about us if you dont like it dont post if you had the permission to go on you would be at it yourself, why is it always leeview on working whippet post having ago, think you need to spend more time in the field letting the dogs and ferrte do the job they love the ground at this place is nice ground for running on and one the more piecs still very wet. happy hunting all Tom Quite aware what winter fodder is but the fields in your picture have never been cut for fodder have they look at the rushes your dogs are going through bit high arent they and the land is too steep for a tractor and bailer to work those fields are grazed all year round not harvested As for my dogs and ferrets they work right through and earn their summer to recover oh and breed a litter of kitts 2 jills for next season how many have you bred tom? and how many dogs 3 oldest what 3yrs, one 18month both offered for stud the younger after one season of work and another pup how long before thats out ferreting? as for getting out more bless it dont seem like 2minutes since you were asking some novice questions was it really 2008 how time flies Y.I.S Leeview 1 Quote Link to post
blackwhippet 7 Posted July 5, 2010 Report Share Posted July 5, 2010 How on earth "dont your whippets run anywhere near as hard a we do in winter" and it takes 2 of them to catch a young rabbit do you miss many this way through bolting while your dogs are after the same rabbit? Or do they bolt differently in summer as opposed to winter? Id be carrying the electrolytes with me not waiting till they get back to the car Y.I.S Leeview We choosenot to run the whippets as hard in the summer, i.e we don`t stay out as long and do a lot early morning before the sun gets out - if the dogs start to get too warm we pack up You should know what the crack is you reckon you rabbit up in the Dales - there are no easy rabbits- they all have to be caught . We run doubled up sometimes , sometimes single , if we miss a couple they are there for next time . We do what we can during the summer to keep the farmers happy , and it is obviously working for me , times change once I wouldn`t have dreamt of ferreting during the summer months but with the land I have now it keeps me in ferret food for the young kits and gives the whippets a bit of sport. Quote Link to post
Chickens4ever05 22 Posted July 5, 2010 Author Report Share Posted July 5, 2010 get over it my dogs are more than capeable and have proved it. At least we all know where we stand with the whippets. good quality proven dog good stamina, nose, FEET ect why not offer him out to stud, i have not let him be used yet as i dont feel the [bANNED TEXT] bitch has come along that deserve what this firey young dog can offer. As for kits i bred 2 jill last year and kept 2 jills back for myself, i have some cracking young kits on at the minute which alot have gone to pet homes and a few for working i dont breed anything i dont have a demand for. your [bANNED TEXT] these fields arent the crop fields but they all border them, the crop fields dont have the warrens in but the rabbit runs that look like the M62 leading into them are a sure sign where the culprits live. dont worry about my dogs and how many i have they are much loved pets which reward me in the field doing what they love and e superb at. they might not be the best but they do all i ask and more, All my dogs will be with me till they end and live out there retirement here not like some who swap and change all the time. thanks for all the positive comments from the people who understand what needs to be done for real ferreters week in week out. Tom Quote Link to post
Ideation 8,216 Posted July 5, 2010 Report Share Posted July 5, 2010 real ferreters? Quote Link to post
Green Island Hunter 28 Posted July 6, 2010 Report Share Posted July 6, 2010 Leeview, you allways seem to have a smart answer for everything on here, your a smart c**t. What the feck, is it got to do with you anyhow? Black whippet and Tom, top work lads, you know your ground and whippets, keep up the good work and keep posting. I don't know, this forum is mad. Dan. Quote Link to post
blacktabs 3 Posted July 6, 2010 Report Share Posted July 6, 2010 Fair play lads great pics and posts imo love the wippets mate beats sitting in or playing ball during the summer months years back most folks worked right through on rabbit as most folks needed to for the cash all this sporting malarkey is ok but shushies do breed like mad atb. Quote Link to post
DUCKWING 302 Posted July 6, 2010 Report Share Posted July 6, 2010 get over it my dogs are more than capeable and have proved it. At least we all know where we stand with the whippets. good quality proven dog good stamina, nose, FEET ect why not offer him out to stud, i have not let him be used yet as i dont feel the [bANNED TEXT] bitch has come along that deserve what this firey young dog can offer. As for kits i bred 2 jill last year and kept 2 jills back for myself, i have some cracking young kits on at the minute which alot have gone to pet homes and a few for working i dont breed anything i dont have a demand for. your [bANNED TEXT] these fields arent the crop fields but they all border them, the crop fields dont have the warrens in but the rabbit runs that look like the M62 leading into them are a sure sign where the culprits live. dont worry about my dogs and how many i have they are much loved pets which reward me in the field doing what they love and e superb at. they might not be the best but they do all i ask and more, All my dogs will be with me till they end and live out there retirement here not like some who swap and change all the time. thanks for all the positive comments from the people who understand what needs to be done for real ferreters week in week out. Tom KID YER TALKING SHITE ............ AN 18 MONTH OLD DOG OFFERED AT STUD ?????? GIVE YER FECKIN HEAD A SHAKE WHAT MAKES THIS POST .....SOOOOOOO BAD IS THE FACT THAT I GET THE FEELING YOU ACTUALLY BELIVE THE ABOVE REAL FERRETERS MY FECKIN ARSE DUCKWING Quote Link to post
Chickens4ever05 22 Posted July 6, 2010 Author Report Share Posted July 6, 2010 we know the land and our limits. what i dont understand is if the ground is 2 hard now when do you run the dogs. in england we have about 5 days a year with ideal ferrting weather the rest would be to hot, 2 cold,ground baked 2 hard, frozen solid to muddy, 2 boggy, 2 dusty, grass 2 sharp nettle to high. to many rushes, to many hedge rows, 2 many rabbit holes, when would you take your dog out for a run in ideal conditions we just dont get them. THE WAY SOME ON HERE GO ON YIOU WOULD THINK THEY WERE ANTIS. tell me what is wrong with this dog, he is mega kean and loves every minute will never jack or open up in frustration this dog knows his job and loves every minute. and for those who say whippets cant take a fall because there frigile. this is the last i will say on the matter happy hunting all Quote Link to post
stabba 10,745 Posted July 6, 2010 Report Share Posted July 6, 2010 Rabbits are a pest and should be treated as such....If that means all year round control then so be it...Its the lads land..dogs..ferrets so let him decide if he should summer hunt or not...Just because most of us dont do it doesnt make it wrong....Rabbits need to be controlled whether its summer or winter What you going to do when the farmer rings and says he needs em shifting..tell him no you,ll wait till winter..a sure fire way to lose land. Pest control is pest control whether its with guns..snares..ferrets or dogs...let the lads get on with it because its their land..atb stabba 1 Quote Link to post
Leeview 791 Posted July 6, 2010 Report Share Posted July 6, 2010 Leeview, you allways seem to have a smart answer for everything on here, your a smart c**t. What the feck, is it got to do with you anyhow? Black whippet and Tom, top work lads, you know your ground and whippets, keep up the good work and keep posting. I don't know, this forum is mad. Dan. GIH you tried to discredit myself last week contacting Chalkwarren but sort of backfired on you did nt it my answers come from experience yours come from trying to look clever but your failing badly, the topic is about the Dales and your experience of working up here is? Y.I.S Leeview Quote Link to post
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