best choke cart for foxes

[scorpion156 10]

i am thinking of getting a semi auto 3 shot just for foxing. can anyone tell me the best choke to use i was thinking full choke because of the tighter patter. also what cartrage e.g no1s BB AAA or what. Also the cartrage i normaly use 32 gram for my normal shooting will this be big enough?. i am also on the loo out for a semi auto can anyone recomend one ill have about £300-£400 to spend

 

Tom

[Terryorr 27]

i am thinking of getting a semi auto 3 shot just for foxing. can anyone tell me the best choke to use i was thinking full choke because of the tighter patter. also what cartrage e.g no1s BB AAA or what. Also the cartrage i normaly use 32 gram for my normal shooting will this be big enough?. i am also on the loo out for a semi auto can anyone recomend one ill have about £300-£400 to spend

 

Tom

Hello mate, I have a beretta 303 semi and a browning fusion gold semi which are ideal for foxing but you would need around £500/£600 for either second hand. I use the 1/2 choke for the simple reason it is a good all rounder, i.e. foxy could be bolting from a terrier 15/20 yards away from me or he could be 30/40 yards away fleeing from hounds. As for cartridges, you need to move up to at least 36grm loads of say BBs.Good Luck, hope this helps.

[scorpion156 10]

i am thinking of getting a semi auto 3 shot just for foxing. can anyone tell me the best choke to use i was thinking full choke because of the tighter patter. also what cartrage e.g no1s BB AAA or what. Also the cartrage i normaly use 32 gram for my normal shooting will this be big enough?. i am also on the loo out for a semi auto can anyone recomend one ill have about £300-£400 to spend

 

Tom

Hello mate, I have a beretta 303 semi and a browning fusion gold semi which are ideal for foxing but you would need around £500/£600 for either second hand. I use the 1/2 choke for the simple reason it is a good all rounder, i.e. foxy could be bolting from a terrier 15/20 yards away from me or he could be 30/40 yards away fleeing from hounds. As for cartridges, you need to move up to at least 36grm loads of say BBs.Good Luck, hope this helps.

 

 

thanks mate whats the max range i could be looking at with a shotgun

 

Tom

[Terryorr 27]

i am thinking of getting a semi auto 3 shot just for foxing. can anyone tell me the best choke to use i was thinking full choke because of the tighter patter. also what cartrage e.g no1s BB AAA or what. Also the cartrage i normaly use 32 gram for my normal shooting will this be big enough?. i am also on the loo out for a semi auto can anyone recomend one ill have about £300-£400 to spend

 

Tom

Hello mate, I have a beretta 303 semi and a browning fusion gold semi which are ideal for foxing but you would need around £500/£600 for either second hand. I use the 1/2 choke for the simple reason it is a good all rounder, i.e. foxy could be bolting from a terrier 15/20 yards away from me or he could be 30/40 yards away fleeing from hounds. As for cartridges, you need to move up to at least 36grm loads of say BBs.Good Luck, hope this helps.

 

 

thanks mate whats the max range i could be looking at with a shotgun

 

Tom

Tom mate, I have heard stories of foxes being dropped at 50/60 plus yards with a shotgun, I dont know I cant argue but I certainly would like to have my foxes at a maximon of say 40/45 yards or I dont think I would be shooting at them, maybe other members will disagree but thats my opinion. CHEERS

[foxbasher 0]

i am thinking of getting a semi auto 3 shot just for foxing. can anyone tell me the best choke to use i was thinking full choke because of the tighter patter. also what cartrage e.g no1s BB AAA or what. Also the cartrage i normaly use 32 gram for my normal shooting will this be big enough?. i am also on the loo out for a semi auto can anyone recomend one ill have about £300-£400 to spend

 

Tom

Hello mate, I have a beretta 303 semi and a browning fusion gold semi which are ideal for foxing but you would need around £500/£600 for either second hand. I use the 1/2 choke for the simple reason it is a good all rounder, i.e. foxy could be bolting from a terrier 15/20 yards away from me or he could be 30/40 yards away fleeing from hounds. As for cartridges, you need to move up to at least 36grm loads of say BBs.Good Luck, hope this helps.

 

I use 50g loads of bb's through 3/4 choke-will drop 'em stone dead at 50yrds. Some mates use spsg's-this in theory increases range up to 70+yrds but due to the limited number of bb's in this load the pattern can have big gaps in it, but huge stopping power if one does connect. Personally use a webley and scott 810 semi-brill gun that will cycle the big 3'' heavy loads down to 2 3/4'' 28g loads. You should be able to pick one of these up for around £300 s/h. Hope this helps mate.

 

 

thanks mate whats the max range i could be looking at with a shotgun

 

Tom

Tom mate, I have heard stories of foxes being dropped at 50/60 plus yards with a shotgun, I dont know I cant argue but I certainly would like to have my foxes at a maximon of say 40/45 yards or I dont think I would be shooting at them, maybe other members will disagree but thats my opinion. CHEERS

[scorpion156 10]

thanks for all the advice. What is peoples views on hatsan escorts for a foxing gun and how do they handle the heavier rounds?

 

Tom

[Terryorr 27]

thanks for all the advice. What is peoples views on hatsan escorts for a foxing gun and how do they handle the heavier rounds?

 

Tom

Again pal I can only speak of what I heard, other members will have their say. Escort semis are cheap to buy new and the old addage is you get what you pay for.

[younggun 0]

i am thinking of getting a semi auto 3 shot just for foxing. can anyone tell me the best choke to use i was thinking full choke because of the tighter patter. also what cartrage e.g no1s BB AAA or what. Also the cartrage i normaly use 32 gram for my normal shooting will this be big enough?. i am also on the loo out for a semi auto can anyone recomend one ill have about £300-£400 to spend

 

Tom

Hi mate; my answer to your question is as follows - the choke you are using depends massively on what type of foxing you are doing, for example, terrier work where you are challenged with a bolting fox demands a wide spread choke (An open or 1/4 choke), rough shooting, where any range can occur demands an all-rounder (A 1/2 choke), and hunting with hounds where a long range shot may occur demands a tight choke (A 1/1 choke). So basically what i'm saying is that situations vary massively.

Another thing to remember is that you may/may not be a skilled enough marksman to use a full choke all the time, so i advise that you also get out and test them all so that you can always be using one you will be confident you can hit with!

In my experience the lightest cartridge you should use is a four and the heaviest you should use is a AAA (as any heavier is simply unnecessary). The lightest load you should be using is 35Gms/36Gms and the heaviest being 50Gms

(again, as any heavier is simply unnecessary)

Thanks, hope this helps

[moses 5]

i use 50gr bb with a three quarter choke in my hatsan semi auto have never had a problem with it a little heavier than your better brand, but you get what you pay for.

[kingnewport 19]

dont bother with a hatsan escort, save your money and get a beretta 301/302/303 , they can start from £200 and up . I found when I had my escort it was very plastic and just didnt feel sturdy enough (but thats me). For shells I use 32g AAA in a extra tight choke but that is the type of shooting I do , it might be different for you

[Born Hunter 17,751]

Balistically, the bb shot is the best size for foxing, taking into consideration minimum required penetration for a humane kill and pattern density. Everybody has their preference, but ill stick to what does the job the best. Also a max of half choke is widely regarded to be the most appropriate for the larger shot sizes (and bb deffinately falls into the larger shot size catagory), as tighter chokes cause the pattern to blow up due to the tight constriction for the large pellets giving stray pellets and a f****d pattern. Ive used 36grm loads in my auto to great effect out to 35 yards (which i feel is the max really) and currently have some 50grm (but i wouldnt recomend these for anything other than an auto, after the first shot you wouldnt be taking a second weather the fox was dead or alive! lol).

 

Buy a second hand Berreta or Bennelli would be my advise.

 

But meh..... what the feck do i know, jmho

[foxbasher 0]

Say's it all really-everyone got their own preference. Main thing is to test your shot pattern on a plate or large piece of cardboard using adequate sized shot at various ranges. Once your happy with the results just get out there and do the bizz. One last word about the Hatsans-they're very much budget guns but at the end of the day if your on a budget they'll do the job just fine

[magyarman 0]

dont bother with a hatsan escort, save your money and get a beretta 301/302/303 , they can start from £200 and up . I found when I had my escort it was very plastic and just didnt feel sturdy enough (but thats me). For shells I use 32g AAA in a extra tight choke but that is the type of shooting I do , it might be different for you

Couldn't agree more re a Beretta - the 303 is, in my opinion, probably the best ever semi auto they've made. Like most of the responses re choke and cartridges, it's so very dependant upon what type of shooting you'll be doing, shooting flushed foxes, calling them in etc; whatever you decide upon, try patterning the shot first (shoot at a large piece of cardboard or similar)as all guns are different and prefer different loads/pellet sizes. Enjoy!

[COMPO 54]

From what i have heard and seen Hatsans are crap and would struggle to cycle a variety of carts as would be needed....i have just sold my baikal mp153 that was a great gun for cycling heavy loads.....see if you could get one second hand....

 

I use 42gm of BB's, they work

 

I think BASC did some tests on fox carcasses and found that BB's in a 12gauge were the best load (they compared different shot sizes,gauge guns, and levels of expertise with shooters)