Quickset longnets and traditional ones

[Hob&Jill 258]

I dont know much, if anything about long netting and would like to know the pros and cons of each type of net.

 

What are the main differences and the pros and cons of each?

 

I have notied that Rabbithunter seems to hate quickset ones lol

 

Josh

[Rabbithunter 456]

here we go again :11:

[The Ferret Tamer 1]

Not this one again :11:

[mole catcher 1]

not again

[Guest craftycarper]

mmmmm.... while we are here, might as well start the one about hemp v nylon eh....

[Ricky-N.p.p 0]

No I'm Sparticus !!!

:11:

[Rabbithunter 456]

Here is a post taken from another site

 

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Well, the debate has been on all the other sites, so i don;t see why this site should be an exception.

 

Im not going to make a massive list here, just a few of the main points

 

quickset

 

advantages

simple to use on your own

fast to RUN OUT

 

dis-advantages

if cord is chewed it is a b@stard to repair

top line sags after a few good hits off the bunnies

 

traditional

 

advantages

lines stay tight ALL the time if set right

line is easy to repair if chewed

 

dis-advantage

ideally two people are required to work these nets

[mole catcher 1]

rabbit hunter,

just how many yrds of quick set have you personaly set? it is planely clear to me that you havnt set that much with this method, quote: top line sags after a few good hits by the bunnies, unquote. so educate me here,does this not happen with the trad set net?

quick set has the disadvantage of being a b@rsted if the top line is chewed, how can that be any worse than if the top line were chewed on the trad set net? surely on the quick set you only have 5yrd of top line between pegs that are fixed were as on the trad net you still have 5yrd of top line between pegs but, in this method regardless if you have the bagging sewn in or not you still have 5yrd of top line.

 

quote: trad net stays tight all the time if set right unquote. what if you set the quick set right,does that not stay tight if set correctly?

 

quote Trad set net is easy to repair if chewed unquote hows that then?

cant one person work the trad net then?

 

Before any of you start shouting about what i have posted just take a good hard look at what has just been said in the previous post. Jesus, talk about the blind leading the blind. I know im more than likely to get some stick over this but lets not forget that i for one use both trad set nets and the quick set method were they are needed. one thing to remember, tools do not the tradesman make

 

Edited November 21, 2006 by mole catcher

[TOMO 26,868]

im with you mole catcher, grew up using the old method. then 2 years ago got my nets on the fixed system .

 

and first thing i thought was why have i been fecking about with that old slow method

 

TOMO

[mapreader 5]

I,m also chucking in with both Mole Catcher and Tomo. Same as you Tomo, started with the trad way of setting nets. First time out i ran 270 yards of net using the back pegging method (beginners and amateurs... night-time anyway), I,d been shown not to bother pegging the bottom line, the result was nine rabbits and the bottom line flipped over the top most way along,due to the howling gale i was working in. After that i pegged both top and bottom as i went, weren,t the quickest at but there it is. Started using the basket method probably some twelve years ago, tried Glen Waters method but i was picking up sooo much crap in nets. Consequently i was trying to use the net out of a bag until i met a good rabbiting man from the Avon area who was already using baskets, he showed me his way and i,ve used it ever since. To me all the respect should go to G. Waters for moving the method forward. Incidentally i make all my own gear, which means my baskets are a lot lighter than commercial baskets. I am going to try to post some lonnetting pics when my son helps me . Regards Mapreader.

[Guest JOEB]

Having read posts from you lads who have much more experience than me using long nets, I am starting to think that I must be getting something wrong.

This could easily happen, as I only had the benefit of a DVD sent by a friend and working it out for myself.

 

I must say, I have a couple of old traditional nets (25s & 50) and I find them very, very easy to set out alone, I have not had any bunnys bounce off, all have been wrapped up just nice.

I have used em around cover and in the open, and I can run all them out in about 5 minutes .

 

I can then pick up correctly in about 10 minutes (maybe not even that), daylight or dark windy night its all the same to me.

 

Am I getting something wrong or is it being made out to be more than it is?

JOEB

 

Think that I had better add how I do it in case one of you lads can educate me, I run the net out peg to peg, then start at one end with my old wooden pole, bottom of pole into bottom line and half hitch or whatever it is, then 2 half hitchs on the top line around the pole, then so on & so on.........is this wrong lads?

[Guest simonw]

not one to go off on an tangent, but, out of all the replys to the "blinkered" one in his wise responce to a simple question, so.

 

Joe b, as long as you are happy and no you are not doinganything wrong in learning and using a net, something of which onlygets better with practice,imo.

 

Hob & Jill, what do you want from your net? What terrain do you ferret/net in, is it bushes or open, flat or inclined, soft or rock??? i would have thought that this has a big bearing on what is suitable for your purpose. Bushes and ditches may require only small 10 yarder hedge nets, going through to catch those sneaky bunnys going left and right. Open ground would require some 25 yarders or 50 or even 100 yarders to make the job worthwhile, but again it has turned into mr Blinkers have a go at something i cannot use thread :11:

 

Both the traditional and not quickset but Fixed pole method, to call it the original name(G.W) have their ups and downs, ask the folk and make your own mind up, get some, practice and share your results

 

But, if you go into it blinkered like some, you will go stale predictable and lose out on the joys you should be experiancing

 

remember as someone on here said, the method is merely the tool to catch and hold the rabbit, you still have to know where to lay it, even for ferreting

 

 

imo, of course

Edited November 22, 2006 by simonw

[Guest JOEB]

Thank you simon.........I think it was you that a friend & I had a good long chat with at a very cold and wet gamefair in Canarfon (wales) a couple of years back....talked sense then and still talking it mate....nice one

JOEB

[mapreader 5]

Fair answer Simonw, hope that I wasn,t coming across as blinkered, I,ve used both and we still use a hemp 50 yarder, set trad way more for daytime,why, just to keep the hand in, so to speak. When i talk of longnets I refer more to night work than day because thats what my main game these days. But let me also say that the basket method is a versatile way to use nets . Square mesh fences are easy to negotiate, so is setting around obsatcles. Each to their own, if your happy to use traditional methods then go for it, I would certainly not suggest that anyone change to the way i use nets purely because they use the traditional way. I also forgot to mention in my original post that using the back pegging method when ferreting is quite usual, only on night-time settings will that way let you down, around here anyway. JOEB if it works for you all well and good. Regards Mapreader.

[mapreader 5]

Hi JOEB, only just noticed that bottom bit to original post. It sounds as though you are using what is called "backpegging" Usually used more for ferreting than for night-time. That is how I started. I will use examples of 100 yard nets, but traditional setting is easier with 50 yarders for the simple reason that even with only a bit of rubbish in the net, picking up 100 yards of even 4z don,t half make your arm ache, arms like popeye...after the spinach thing...if you fill it with crap :11:The problem with that method is that you proceed to walk 100 yards running out the net...you then walk another 100 yards back along the net pegging up ( most sets that I run require a minimum of 2-300 yards of net)...assuming that I,m going to use 200 yards, I now walk another 100 yards back along the same bit of ground ready to set my second net...already , for 100 yards of net I have walked 300 yards...by the time the second net is out I,m on 600 yards for a 200 drop. Where I work with nets the rabbits would be long gone by that time..reflected light ..the DEVIL,S curse on the longnetter would not allow such a method. The only way that I can think it would work is on very browie sets or setting behind the hedge (where rabbits don,t have buries in the hedge..rather beyond) or if you,re lucky enough to have pitch darkness where you operate. However you state that your catching so something must be working...personally I would learn to set as I go if I was you...that,s what I did. Best of luck. Regards Mapreader.