Albert Ladd 0 Posted November 20, 2006 Report Share Posted November 20, 2006 (edited) Hope these pics clear up and show that the newer style is much more friendly to an trapped animal than the older style, But there are traps that were made even back in the late 1800- early 1900 that are quite humane or foot friendly. Some of these were used to catch wolves for fitting tracking collars recently in our western states. These actually have teeth, but are not sharp, more blunt in design. Old new house traps! Here is one of the more modern design traps that have the laminated jaw and space between the jaws once the trap is closed Same trap closed with my hand in it. A coyotes paw or wrist area wouldn’t be as thick as my hand. Bones can’t be snapped or broken when the trap closes. Here is another style trap showing the space between the jaws. Here is an older style trap with teeth. These are outlawed most every where. But we can use them for beaver under ice and water. Beaver drown so it matters not what kind of trap you use. Another old style trap. These can cause more damage as they can cut into the animals skin and no room for leg bones once the jaw is closed. If I was going to use this trap I’d weld lamination to the top and bottom of the jaw, Plus weld a small nut to one jaw inside. And on each side low to the sides so that when closed it would have the space. Edited November 20, 2006 by Hornhunter Quote Link to post
Guest The Big Fish Posted November 20, 2006 Report Share Posted November 20, 2006 Its a pity that we in the uk cannot buy traps with the same build quality as the ones shown in those pictures. I bet they last out a fair while! Quote Link to post
Albert Ladd 0 Posted November 20, 2006 Author Report Share Posted November 20, 2006 I've told in other posts how every year i catch a few hounds and bird dogs in these trap, The hounds are hunted the next day, and this comes from the owners telling me this. So if the traps did the damage the antis would like you to believe the hounds would bve running around on 3 legs. Damage and the cruel part does come after an animal is in a trap for days, That's why i agree with a law here in the eastern US that has you check every day. Quote Link to post
Guest The Big Fish Posted November 20, 2006 Report Share Posted November 20, 2006 Hi there Hornhunter, i was actually stating that the traps that you guys can purchase are by far a better built trap, they look like they would last out for a lifetime. You should see some of the shit we have to put up with. Poxy old springer mk4's doubt that they would last a couple of years "hard work". Quote Link to post
moley 115 Posted November 20, 2006 Report Share Posted November 20, 2006 Hi there Hornhunter, i was actually stating that the traps that you guys can purchase are by far a better built trap, they look like they would last out for a lifetime.You should see some of the shit we have to put up with. Poxy old springer mk4's doubt that they would last a couple of years "hard work". i have a mk 3 fenn thats as strong , if not stronger than alot of new springers, i was useing it up til a few years back when i found out it had a value, just goes to show that uk workmanship isn,t as good these days as it once was Quote Link to post
Albert Ladd 0 Posted November 21, 2006 Author Report Share Posted November 21, 2006 We started getting coyote in the late 60's early 70's They'd get into a #2 victor and pop the jaws right out of the trap. Trappers went to the #3 victor and other brands, but still coyote were getting out and the larger old style traps were hard on a fox's leg. Some cleaver trappers came up with the ideas for a better holding trap. A fox will get caught high up on the leg, With the space between the jaws he pulls his leg up, but the paw is too big to get through. This is why we can release fox from these newer traps. His leg will be black and blue, but he'll run away on all 4's, Same with most all smaller animals. Quote Link to post
DUCKWING 302 Posted November 21, 2006 Report Share Posted November 21, 2006 GREAT PICTURES AND AN INTERESTING THREAD HORNHUNTER , IVE HEARD THAT THE COYOTE HAS BECOME A HUGE PROBLEM IN THE you.S . , KILLING OFF OR MOVING OUT A LOT OF FOX , BOTH RED AND GREY .......... IS THAT TRUE ? ALL THE BEST DUCKWING Quote Link to post
Albert Ladd 0 Posted November 22, 2006 Author Report Share Posted November 22, 2006 GREAT PICTURES AND AN INTERESTING THREAD HORNHUNTER , IVE HEARD THAT THE COYOTE HAS BECOME A HUGE PROBLEM IN THE you.S . , KILLING OFF OR MOVING OUT A LOT OF FOX , BOTH RED AND GREY .......... IS THAT TRUE ? ALL THE BEST DUCKWING That's true mostly. The fox are few here and never recovered in numbers since the coyote came in. But in other areas it didn't seem to effect the fox at all. But these areas are darn few and far between. Bobcat were effected as well, but seem to be coming back. The large numbers of snow shoe hare is no doybt the reason for the bobcat's return. You'll see at starving bobcat at times in the winter, but you never see a starving coyote. Quote Link to post
pegandgun 52 Posted November 22, 2006 Report Share Posted November 22, 2006 Typical moley,as soon as you find out that the trap is worth a tenner you stop using it,tight arse Great pics hornhunter and great info Quote Link to post
moley 115 Posted November 22, 2006 Report Share Posted November 22, 2006 Typical moley,as soon as you find out that the trap is worth a tenner you stop using it,tight arse Great pics hornhunter and great info when your on my wages , every penny counts, alright for you millionairs Quote Link to post
pegandgun 52 Posted November 22, 2006 Report Share Posted November 22, 2006 Just kidding Moley,i know your skint Quote Link to post
moley 115 Posted November 23, 2006 Report Share Posted November 23, 2006 Just kidding Moley,i know your skint i will be when i buy a new quad Quote Link to post
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