Water Badger 26 Posted June 28, 2010 Report Share Posted June 28, 2010 I need some advice i have only been in the coursing game a short time I have listened and read about people giving good and bad feedback with saluki crosses what is it are they hard to train, headstrong or more of an experienced persons dog? I have just been told of a litter dam 3/4 saluki 1/4 grey sire saluki grey whip grey do i or dont i and what am i potentialy letting myself in for? any advise greatfully recived Quote Link to post
billy bronk 76 Posted June 28, 2010 Report Share Posted June 28, 2010 good alrounders is the right hands Quote Link to post
riohog 5,734 Posted June 28, 2010 Report Share Posted June 28, 2010 if you have a understanding of dogs ,you woll have no problem, some need a bit more time and patiance than other cross , once the bond is there ,the dog will be fine , these salukis and sluki x,s arnt mythical beasts , ,but like all animals /dogs you need to be firm but fair ,you rule the dog ,the dog dosent rule you , im sure alot of folk just aint got the patiance to bring dogs on ,so they get passed on at 7 /12 months , and the dog dosent know whats going on , hence problems ..good luck Quote Link to post
J Darcy 5,871 Posted June 28, 2010 Report Share Posted June 28, 2010 When you get the right one you will end up with a biddable, loyal friend with fantastic feet,speed and stamina aplenty and a natural ability to work out quarry. The problem is when you get a good saluki hybrid it can make a man somewhat blinkered to that type. But, if one were to choose a type of dog to be blinkered about then they could do far worse than the saluki hybrid. Quote Link to post
zigzag dan 784 Posted June 28, 2010 Report Share Posted June 28, 2010 Ive had 3 now , first one jacked on a hare , second one was so stubborn and stupid that i just couldnt bond with , although i admit to not being the most patient of people ! Now ive got a brother to Taffybulls red dog , 14mth old , and hes the most eager to please dog ive ever had .He retrieves , good recall , good kenneller , grubber ,so as JD says its all about getting the right one . Quote Link to post
Casso 1,261 Posted June 28, 2010 Report Share Posted June 28, 2010 if you have a understanding of dogs ,you woll have no problem, some need a bit more time and patiance than other cross , once the bond is there ,the dog will be fine , these salukis and sluki x,s arnt mythical beasts , ,but like all animals /dogs you need to be firm but fair ,you rule the dog ,the dog dosent rule you , im sure alot of folk just aint got the patiance to bring dogs on ,so they get passed on at 7 /12 months , and the dog dosent know whats going on , hence problems ..good luck Good post, you seem to be someone who knows their stuff, something i always wondered about, if saluki lurchers are bred to each other over generations , can some of the unwanted traits be bred out, what im trying to say is, do they become more social and responsive without adding any other any other breeding ,eg collie, bull etc, Just saluki lurcher to saluki lurcher,, Quote Link to post
poacher3161 1,766 Posted June 28, 2010 Report Share Posted June 28, 2010 They can be a bit stubborn and a lot dont have the quik responsive manner that a collie cross would but they are without doubt the iceing on the cake [bANNED TEXT] their added to other hybreds to make awsome pot filling lurchers that all edible quarry is well within their caperbilitys. Quote Link to post
riohog 5,734 Posted June 28, 2010 Report Share Posted June 28, 2010 if you have a understanding of dogs ,you woll have no problem, some need a bit more time and patiance than other cross , once the bond is there ,the dog will be fine , these salukis and sluki x,s arnt mythical beasts , ,but like all animals /dogs you need to be firm but fair ,you rule the dog ,the dog dosent rule you , im sure alot of folk just aint got the patiance to bring dogs on ,so they get passed on at 7 /12 months , and the dog dosent know whats going on , hence problems ..good luck Good post, you seem to be someone who knows their stuff, something i always wondered about, if saluki lurchers are bred to each other over generations , can some of the unwanted traits be bred out, what im trying to say is, do they become more social and responsive without adding any other any other breeding ,eg collie, bull etc, Just saluki lurcher to saluki lurcher,, that may be the case , but good and bad in everything , alot to do with how the dog is brought up ,the more outcross from pure saluki will enevetably mean less sluki blood , mybe less of the salukitraits ..but if you understand why salukis are aloof and headstrong ,it can be in there favour .. !!! Quote Link to post
the pikey poacher 1,157 Posted June 28, 2010 Report Share Posted June 28, 2010 i would run down to that blokes house and buy 1 straight away if i was you you dont know what your missing belive me saluki power all the way ay lads? Quote Link to post
Water Badger 26 Posted June 28, 2010 Author Report Share Posted June 28, 2010 thanks for all that after some phone calls i have had the following comments Headstrong poor recall hard to get retrieving to hand hard to break to stock dont get me wrong i want this cross but i want to know what i am getting into? secondaly any pointers for picking from litter what are key areas to look at feet teeth? the pups are 9 weeks Quote Link to post
riohog 5,734 Posted June 28, 2010 Report Share Posted June 28, 2010 thanks for all that after some phone calls i have had the following comments Headstrong poor recall hard to get retrieving to hand hard to break to stock dont get me wrong i want this cross but i want to know what i am getting into? secondaly any pointers for picking from litter what are key areas to look at feet teeth? the pups are 9 weeks not wanting to take the p..ss but if you dont know what to look for .. take someone who does Quote Link to post
Water Badger 26 Posted June 28, 2010 Author Report Share Posted June 28, 2010 thanks for all that after some phone calls i have had the following comments Headstrong poor recall hard to get retrieving to hand hard to break to stock dont get me wrong i want this cross but i want to know what i am getting into? secondaly any pointers for picking from litter what are key areas to look at feet teeth? the pups are 9 weeks not wanting to take the p..ss but if you dont know what to look for .. take someone who does it was more what to look for in the feet avoid this or that ? Quote Link to post
Meerihunter 7 Posted June 28, 2010 Report Share Posted June 28, 2010 (edited) Unless you are intending on being out in the field with the dog a lot, stay away from heavily Saluki bred dogs. You will only (IMO) get the problems you list if the dog is not getting enough exercise/work to steady it. Clashes of interest between dog and owner are the biggest cause of problems with these Saluki types, ie dog wants/needs to hunt, owner wants to sit on his arse playing Xbox etc or be down the pub or the likes, you have to be out every day with them that doesn't just mean a walk round the block on a lead then back in the kennel. They are full on hunting dogs that don't just switch on and off for convience of their owner, only the knowledge that you will be hunting with them at some point soon through that being the norm, will make them content enough to respond to you against their desire to hunt for themselves to hell with you. As for what to look for in the pups? That is all personal preference, I'd avoid the narrow pups as these tend to be less durable, less stable on rough uneven ground and tend to fall more at the strike, I like good strong fronts, a good gap between the front legs, well sprung ribs as oppose to slab sided ones, again broad hip set, well knuckled feet with large deep, thick pads. Edited June 28, 2010 by Meerihunter 1 Quote Link to post
Tiff 36 Posted June 28, 2010 Report Share Posted June 28, 2010 +1 what meerihunter said Quote Link to post
Water Badger 26 Posted June 28, 2010 Author Report Share Posted June 28, 2010 (edited) Unless you are intending on being out in the field with the dog a lot, stay away from heavily Saluki bred dogs. You will only (IMO) get the problems you list if the dog is not getting enough exercise/work to steady it. Clashes of interest between dog and owner are the biggest cause of problems with these Saluki types, ie dog wants/needs to hunt, owner wants to sit on his arse playing Xbox etc or be down the pub or the likes, you have to be out every day with them that doesn't just mean a walk round the block on a lead then back in the kennel. They are full on hunting dogs that don't just switch on and off for convience of their owner, only the knowledge that you will be hunting with them at some point soon through that being the norm, will make them content enough to respond to you against their desire to hunt for themselves to hell with you. As for what to look for in the pups? That is all personal preference, I'd avoid the narrow pups as these tend to be less durable, less stable on rough uneven ground and tend to fall more at the strike, I like good strong fronts, a good gap between the front legs, well sprung ribs as oppose to slab sided ones, again broad hip set, well knuckled feet with large deep, thick pads. Meerihunter thanks for the advise all my dogs go out first thing for an hour at first light then 1/2 hr with mrs mid day and another hr in everning one day each weekend 8hrs+ hunting thanks for the advise also on what to look for in the pups Edited June 28, 2010 by Water Badger Quote Link to post
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