Wolly 4 Posted June 29, 2010 Author Report Share Posted June 29, 2010 i dont mean timmed as in nervus bag off bones i mean just keep out of the way when people are loud . she isnt a bag of bones she is actually firey as f**k lol she will bark at people if there hanging round house and shes not scared off going upto people or anything like that ,,, Quote Link to post
stroller 341 Posted June 30, 2010 Report Share Posted June 30, 2010 put some work into her mate get her socialised take her into town, give her a wide range of experiences, take her to a game fair.she is probably a very intelligent dog by the sounds of it. You need to be responsible for her future so do your best take her to a training class. You need to be consistent with this little dog mate to get the best out of her. some dogs are easy to rear up others like this one and the two ive got need work be inventive, be patient, cos your being f****d off will make her worse. be gentle and forget about macho lurcher man training methods. its up to you in the end you are responsible for your dogs future. Some of the best socialisation for my dogs was when i went to pick the kids up from school it was also a chance to eye up the totty (The mothers not the kids)if you havent got kids i wouldnt reccomend hanging round school gates, you could get arrested or beasten up by the kids crack dealer . good luck Quote Link to post
saxonmaster 74 Posted June 30, 2010 Report Share Posted June 30, 2010 when i first got my lurcher he was a bit nervous and still is a bit funny in the kennel wont always come out dont like parked cars or shouting and dont overly like being on the lead but once out and off the lead he is completly different dog. but if your getting annoyed the dog will pick up on this and probably get worse. maybe start again with training as if you just got it and work on the basics and give plenty of praise or try to only take it out when your not feeling to stressed and had a good day so your in a good frame of mind but im sure you have tried most of this but if u think that your not going to work out with this dog then maybe its in the best interest for both of u to call it a day and find a good home maybe a non working home but i hope u come up with a solution mate and it all works out for u. Quote Link to post
kev2010 8 Posted June 30, 2010 Report Share Posted June 30, 2010 put some work into her mate get her socialised take her into town, give her a wide range of experiences, take her to a game fair.she is probably a very intelligent dog by the sounds of it. You need to be responsible for her future so do your best take her to a training class. You need to be consistent with this little dog mate to get the best out of her. some dogs are easy to rear up others like this one and the two ive got need work be inventive, be patient, cos your being f****d off will make her worse. be gentle and forget about macho lurcher man training methods. its up to you in the end you are responsible for your dogs future. Some of the best socialisation for my dogs was when i went to pick the kids up from school it was also a chance to eye up the totty (The mothers not the kids)if you havent got kids i wouldnt reccomend hanging round school gates, you could get arrested or beasten up by the kids crack dealer . good luck when i first got my lurcher he was a bit nervous and still is a bit funny in the kennel wont always come out dont like parked cars or shouting and dont overly like being on the lead but once out and off the lead he is completly different dog. but if your getting annoyed the dog will pick up on this and probably get worse. maybe start again with training as if you just got it and work on the basics and give plenty of praise or try to only take it out when your not feeling to stressed and had a good day so your in a good frame of mind but im sure you have tried most of this but if u think that your not going to work out with this dog then maybe its in the best interest for both of u to call it a day and find a good home maybe a non working home but i hope u come up with a solution mate and it all works out for u. Spot on.Timmid dogs are so,so,sensetive to your moods.They know your in a bad mood before you do.Just need a different aproach.As above,calm,relaxed & lots of patience.Not for everybody but very rewarding when youve built that trust. Atb.Kev. Quote Link to post
Wolly 4 Posted June 30, 2010 Author Report Share Posted June 30, 2010 i couldnt and wouldnt get rid of this dog we have too much bond she is a totally differant dog in the field and her prey drive is getting immence i just neally lost her about an hour ago because i was walking the old lines and a young bunny jumped up so she chased it and down a banking so i followed her like a tit and the dog went to were i was so i was looking for the dog and the dog was looking for me i was looking on the fields and the dog when home me been me i was looking for an hour got home said ive lost dog then they disided to tell me she was in the kitchen all hot and bothed Quote Link to post
slsteele 1 Posted June 30, 2010 Report Share Posted June 30, 2010 has anyone ever had a timmid lurcher thats been anygood cos mine proper fuk's me off i mess abrt with it and it shits itself proper scared and i never hit it or harm it any info ?? yeah i had one drives you crazy but kept my cool with it and it come a good dog Best advise on here, only a real dog person can guide a dog toward greatness, anyone who believes a dog is no good because they need to earn their trust is a mere amatuer. Patience is the key............ Could have guessed that was a women's reply. In my experience timid/quiet dogs can be fine. shit scared dogs are no use in the field. I don't need a cock to know dogs...... Quote Link to post
saxonmaster 74 Posted June 30, 2010 Report Share Posted June 30, 2010 i couldnt and wouldnt get rid of this dog we have too much bond she is a totally differant dog in the field and her prey drive is getting immence i just neally lost her about an hour ago because i was walking the old lines and a young bunny jumped up so she chased it and down a banking so i followed her like a tit and the dog went to were i was so i was looking for the dog and the dog was looking for me i was looking on the fields and the dog when home me been me i was looking for an hour got home said ive lost dog then they disided to tell me she was in the kitchen all hot and bothed how old is this dog mate Quote Link to post
Wolly 4 Posted June 30, 2010 Author Report Share Posted June 30, 2010 10 month old Quote Link to post
skycat 6,173 Posted June 30, 2010 Report Share Posted June 30, 2010 (edited) I've got a lurcher here who is now 6 years old: I bred her, socialised her and she has always been timid of people and strange dogs. Out in the field she is unstoppable and takes all game including vermin. There are some lines of Saluki types which are inherently nervous of strangers: I don't mind that at all, at least she won't get stolen by running up to the wrong person when we're out. She is also very submissive to me, bottom of the pecking order and easily upset if I shout at one of the other dogs. How can I fault a dog like that when she performs brilliantly in the field? I can't fault her and wouldn't change her for the world. Neither is she gun shy or frightened of cows, cars, tractors or anything else she meets when out: just doesn't 'do' people or strange dogs. A chilled out, bomb proof temperament is great, but there's plenty of dogs who do have quirks and phobias which work just as well or better in the field. As long as you can live with the dog as she is then don't worry about her fears. She will get slightly better in time, but you won't completely 'cure' her. If your's doesn't like people shouting then she's probably picking up on the vibes: some dogs are very tuned in to people's emotions and hate it if people get angry or upset. Others are just plain sound sensitive. Others need routine and order in their lives and get worried if strange things happen, events which aren't everyday occurences. The thing to remember is that she only has to please you, not everyone else, and as long as she's happy in herself and with you that is all that counts. If she is generally apprehensive most of the time you can treat her with some herbal type remedies, which do work on dogs: I've sent you a pm. Edited to say that I couldn't send you a pm as it said you couldn't receive any messages Edited June 30, 2010 by skycat Quote Link to post
kev2010 8 Posted June 30, 2010 Report Share Posted June 30, 2010 has anyone ever had a timmid lurcher thats been anygood cos mine proper fuk's me off i mess abrt with it and it shits itself proper scared and i never hit it or harm it any info ?? yeah i had one drives you crazy but kept my cool with it and it come a good dog Best advise on here, only a real dog person can guide a dog toward greatness, anyone who believes a dog is no good because they need to earn their trust is a mere amatuer. Patience is the key............ Could have guessed that was a women's reply. In my experience timid/quiet dogs can be fine. shit scared dogs are no use in the field. I don't need a cock to know dogs...... Your right,you dont need a cock to know dogs.But i know plenty of cocks with dogs. I've got a lurcher here who is now 6 years old: I bred her, socialised her and she has always been timid of people and strange dogs. Out in the field she is unstoppable and takes all game including vermin. There are some lines of Saluki types which are inherently nervous of strangers: I don't mind that at all, at least she won't get stolen by running up to the wrong person when we're out. She is also very submissive to me, bottom of the pecking order and easily upset if I shout at one of the other dogs. How can I fault a dog like that when she performs brilliantly in the field? I can't fault her and wouldn't change her for the world. Neither is she gun shy or frightened of cows, cars, tractors or anything else she meets when out: just doesn't 'do' people or strange dogs. A chilled out, bomb proof temperament is great, but there's plenty of dogs who do have quirks and phobias which work just as well or better in the field. As long as you can live with the dog as she is then don't worry about her fears. She will get slightly better in time, but you won't completely 'cure' her. If your's doesn't like people shouting then she's probably picking up on the vibes: some dogs are very tuned in to people's emotions and hate it if people get angry or upset. Others are just plain sound sensitive. Others need routine and order in their lives and get worried if strange things happen, events which aren't everyday occurences. The thing to remember is that she only has to please you, not everyone else, and as long as she's happy in herself and with you that is all that counts. If she is generally apprehensive most of the time you can treat her with some herbal type remedies, which do work on dogs: I've sent you a pm. Edited to say that I couldn't send you a pm as it said you couldn't receive any messages Very well put that.I personally think all dogs are very in tune with are emotions,but the more timmed natured dogs show it more.And all are expert at reading our body language.As for routine & order I think that is good for all dogs of any nature or type.Just my opinion.Atb Kev. Quote Link to post
bird 9,873 Posted June 30, 2010 Report Share Posted June 30, 2010 I've got a lurcher here who is now 6 years old: I bred her, socialised her and she has always been timid of people and strange dogs. Out in the field she is unstoppable and takes all game including vermin. There are some lines of Saluki types which are inherently nervous of strangers: I don't mind that at all, at least she won't get stolen by running up to the wrong person when we're out. She is also very submissive to me, bottom of the pecking order and easily upset if I shout at one of the other dogs. How can I fault a dog like that when she performs brilliantly in the field? I can't fault her and wouldn't change her for the world. Neither is she gun shy or frightened of cows, cars, tractors or anything else she meets when out: just doesn't 'do' people or strange dogs. A chilled out, bomb proof temperament is great, but there's plenty of dogs who do have quirks and phobias which work just as well or better in the field. As long as you can live with the dog as she is then don't worry about her fears. She will get slightly better in time, but you won't completely 'cure' her. If your's doesn't like people shouting then she's probably picking up on the vibes: some dogs are very tuned in to people's emotions and hate it if people get angry or upset. Others are just plain sound sensitive. Others need routine and order in their lives and get worried if strange things happen, events which aren't everyday occurences. The thing to remember is that she only has to please you, not everyone else, and as long as she's happy in herself and with you that is all that counts. If she is generally apprehensive most of the time you can treat her with some herbal type remedies, which do work on dogs: I've sent you a pm. Edited to say that I couldn't send you a pm as it said you couldn't receive any messages ive always thought a dog that cower's,and is very sensitive animal, is not deep down a happy dog. When you see wolves and they are like that, they are always bottom of the pack, eat last, made to look after the young cubs. And if there is a lack of food, (they become food). Bottom line is dont have sensitive pup, go for a bold pup, if not there go some where else. Ive had them ,and i find them very hard to live with. Infact of all dog breeds+types lurchers of any x , are i think more of a sensitive nature.And if i didnt work them, i would have differnt type of dog.Lets face it if you just shout at a dog like that and it fecks off and hides from you, its no good is it if we are honest about .Colliexs do my head in, ok good pot fillers but feck me it like walking on egg shells. Bullxs or deerhoundxs might not be the best pot fillers, but alot easier to live with. Quote Link to post
kev2010 8 Posted June 30, 2010 Report Share Posted June 30, 2010 I think its each to thier own.My deerhound x has a sensetive nature & tone of voice is enough.But then should you really have to shout at your dog. Yes your right about wolf packs.But its up to you as pack leader how you structure your own pack. Quote Link to post
bird 9,873 Posted June 30, 2010 Report Share Posted June 30, 2010 I think its each to thier own.My deerhound x has a sensetive nature & tone of voice is enough.But then should you really have to shout at your dog. Yes your right about wolf packs.But its up to you as pack leader how you structure your own pack. yes you should be able to shout at your dog,had dogs 30 years all types of breeds, and you voice is you tool to train any dog. Of all the dogs ive delt with, sensetive ones are easy to train, but i get no pleasure from a dog with this temp. if people like a cowering dogs ok, but not for me.!!! Quote Link to post
Daveo 61 Posted June 30, 2010 Report Share Posted June 30, 2010 has anyone ever had a timmid lurcher thats been anygood cos mine proper fuk's me off i mess abrt with it and it shits itself proper scared and i never hit it or harm it any info ?? yeah i had one drives you crazy but kept my cool with it and it come a good dog Best advise on here, only a real dog person can guide a dog toward greatness, anyone who believes a dog is no good because they need to earn their trust is a mere amatuer. Patience is the key............ Could have guessed that was a women's reply. In my experience timid/quiet dogs can be fine. shit scared dogs are no use in the field. I don't need a cock to know dogs...... Im not interested in your genitals I simply ment that I think it would be unlikely that a man with a cock would post such an understanding response. You might be a woman but your no lady.....Enjoy your vagina Quote Link to post
kev2010 8 Posted June 30, 2010 Report Share Posted June 30, 2010 I think its each to thier own.My deerhound x has a sensetive nature & tone of voice is enough.But then should you really have to shout at your dog. Yes your right about wolf packs.But its up to you as pack leader how you structure your own pack. yes you should be able to shout at your dog,had dogs 30 years all types of breeds, and you voice is you tool to train any dog. Of all the dogs ive delt with, sensetive ones are easy to train, but i get no pleasure from a dog with this temp. if people like a cowering dogs ok, but not for me.!!! Im not saying you should not be able to shout at your dog.Its your dog after all.Yes your voice is a tool to train a dog.What i am saying is if the dog is working with you should you really have to shout & ball at him to do what you want him to. I wouldnt for one miniute question your experience with dogs just offering a different view. I think theres a world of difference between a dog thats sensetive/timmed to a cowering wreck. As i said each to their own. Atb.Kev Quote Link to post
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