airrifle

[clint 45]

what is difrens between 22 & 25 calibre when shot from rifle of air power , uk power. Is any advantage ? larger pellet drop faster with less distans, unless more power ,yes ?. Or is 25 for fac rate airrifle only ? Thank you

Edited June 26, 2010 by clint

[andyfr1968 772]

Hi, Clint.

 

Yup, .25 does drop quickly in a non FAC gun.

 

There's a really useful program that you can down load called chairgun pro. It's free and it's a really good little tool that allows you to compare different cals, pellet weights, power etc.

 

It's a doddle to use (even I can use it and I'm sh1te with technology ) .

 

It's not perfect but as a fairly close guide, it's very good.

 

Good luck, fella.

 

Cheers.

[slingshot82 32]

what is difrens between 22 & 25 calibre when shot from rifle of air power , uk power. Is any advantage ? larger pellet drop faster with less distans, unless more power ,yes ?. Or is 25 for fac rate airrifle only ? Thank you

.25 is good for close range rat bashing, but they drop too quickly at range in 12ft.lbs

Kyle

[Phantom 631]

Of course the biggest differance and some wouldsay disadvantage is the lack of choice of both guns and pellets

 

Phantom

[clint 45]

Thank you for teply, so which is best power for airrifle to be good for .25 cal pellet? (minimum & maximum please) for say 50-70 metre, is this good distans ?

[masmiffy 82]

Thank you for teply, so which is best power for airrifle to be good for .25 cal pellet? (minimum & maximum please) for say 50-70 metre, is this good distans ?

 

Buy a rimfire!!!!!!!

[Phantom 631]

Thank you for teply, so which is best power for airrifle to be good for .25 cal pellet? (minimum & maximum please) for say 50-70 metre, is this good distans ?

 

50 to 70 Mtrs is a fair old distance to be asking from an air rifle, especially a large slug such as a .25 cal

 

As far as power goes if you want non FAC then 11 to 11.5 ft/llbs will allow you a nominal air gun range for a of 30 to 35 yards

(I'm only just adopting meters mhyself!)

 

Phantom

[clint 45]

Thank you for teply, so which is best power for airrifle to be good for .25 cal pellet? (minimum & maximum please) for say 50-70 metre, is this good distans ?

 

Buy a rimfire!!!!!!!

 

I have , also c/f. A firend has a rapid 7 i was amaise , by this rifle for air power &i buy form nice fellow here, in 22 cal. Is perfect ,very super accurate , i use for mess in barn & pigeon in loft area. I was wonder about 25 becas friend also hace BSA XL.25 but ,i wonder of smash thru steel roof of barn ! i no want leak

[andyfr1968 772]

For the close range barn kind of stuff, .25's OK but you'll not really gain anything over .22.

 

Airgun pellet ballisitc's is a funny old science and .25 pellets really don't tend to fly well. Wrong ratio as regards to frontal area vs. length vs. mass. They come out of the end of the gun slow, then slow down even faster....

 

If you need one gun to shoot stuff at very short range then fair do's, give it a go but as has been said there's a very limited supply of pellets and guns.

 

My advice would be to go with .22 for what you've said. Far move versatile.

 

Cheers.

Edited June 28, 2010 by andyfr1968

[zini 1,939]

Hi Clint,

 

I moved house in late Feb this year from 3 miles from Richmond, Catterick Garrison, lovely part of the world buddy.

 

Its a shame i didnt know you then buddy because i had a fair bit of permission you could of shared with me, Festa, Marksman, Reggaeman and Garfield.

 

Anyway just been reading the thread and i think what Andy said is spot on buddy

 

A .22 will do the job 99.9% of the time if you do your part with the rifle on everything that you just explained.

 

If you really wanted to take the .22 to the extreme for close range rat busting you could zero with something like a RWS Hollow Point, which are good out to 15 to 20 metres in most rifles, further in some barrels too.

 

Rats and feral tend not to live long when hit in the KZ with a .22 hollow point (HP) mate. The good thing about the HP is that it doesnt penetrate as much as a domed so tends not to damage farm buildings etc.

 

When shooting ferals at close range i also tend to go for heart shots just to be double save that i dont get over penetration. This is only done though if your sure you can hit the heart KZ and not wound the bird.

 

At 10 metres which is my first zero point i find that I dont make a mistake and hit the heart ok, but that depends on the experience of the shot i suppose and ive practiced it long enough first on paper etc to be confident.

 

At longer ranges i always use a domed pellet as i find a AA Field / FX pellet is very accurate and if the weather is perfect, ie no wind and im feeling confident in my shooting and i know the range to the target (vermin) due to using my LRF i can achieve shots a bit further than what people say are average sub 12 FP rifle ranges.

 

I have no doubt that a .25 is devastating on close range rats and ferals pal, but unless you are really good at applying HO and HU and can estimate ranges really well you only have a close range rifle and will need another rifle for bunnies at longer ranges.

 

I hope this helps a bit pal.

 

Si

Edited June 28, 2010 by zini

[matt_hooks 188]

Si. I use the RWS Super Hollow Point in all my rifles, and find them a really good pellet, and accurate out past 30 metres in all of my rifles. At my primary zero, 25 yards, I shoot one hole groups with both my PCP and my ancient Theoben Scirocco gas ram! They're a decent weight too, and kill reliably and quickly at all sensible airgun ranges.

 

I don't see much benefit from a .25 at non-FAC powers, indeed even FAC rated air rifles really don't give much benefit, certainly nothing that can't be done as safely, and more efficiently with a .22lr!

[zini 1,939]

Yep Matt ,

 

That’s a good example mate of the RWS Super Hollow Point working well at range too buddy .

 

I’ve heard of guys using them as their primary bunny pellet at range too in the past but ive never been lucky enough to find a barrel that likes then past about 15 to 20 metres mate.

 

If i could find a barrel that liked them, Id defo use them for bunny and corvid bashing.

 

I tried them about 2 weeks a go in my .22 Pro Sport and they were devastating out to 18 metres which was the furthest range to my second rat bait.

 

I was getting about a 20mm centre of group with a 3 shot cluster which wasn’t any where near as good as i would of got with a AA / FX domed at that range, but was good enough and within a KZ for the rats i was hunting.

 

I agree about the .25 not being that beneficial in regards to being better for vermin in sub 12FP calibre despite what some people like Terry Doe will write in the Air Gun magazines.

 

A shot in the brain with any calibre will kill any of the UK legal air gun species.

 

Si