KC REGISTERD WHIPPETS AS WORKERS?

[marko 30]

my friend has a black whippet dog of laguna+ nimrodel lines his pedigree is something else aswell all i can say is he is a little bit headstrong because all he wants to do is hunt up all the time working cover he can dissapear for a few minutes and you will see him working fields 200 yds away quite a dog he does come back though so it aint all bad when you whistle him up,good all round dog does bunnies ,rats, squirrelwhatever movesand marks very well,also he is a quiet dog and no bother with his temperament he has also helped enormously bring on my lurcher bitch.wil put up some pics if you want just ask.i might add he has stamina to burn and has more than his fair share of runs on shall we say other things however he does recover quickly so he is a bit of a gem this is down to my mate keeping him in top shape.

Edited November 24, 2006 by marko

[parkstone 24]

my friend has a black whippet dog of laguna+ nimrodel lines his pedigree is something else aswell all i can say is he is a little bit headstrong because all he wants to do is hunt up all the time working cover he can dissapear for a few minutes and you will see him working fields 200 yds away quite a dog he does come back though so it aint all bad when you whistle him up,good all round dog does bunnies ,rats, squirrelwhatever movesand marks very well,also he is a quiet dog and no bother with his temperament he has also helped enormously bring on my lurcher bitch.wil put up some pics if you want just ask.i might add he has stamina to burn and has more than his fair share of runs on shall we say other things however he does recover quickly so he is a bit of a gem this is down to my mate keeping him in top shape.

 

 

A typicle whippet

[juckler123 707]

Check out the size of the whippets on the old pics on the whippet forum http://www.thewhippetforum.com/ thats the size you want if its gonna be an allrounder at bunnies i.e work cover effectively and catching bolters ive found no bigger than 18 inches has been ideal the best daytime dogs ive ever had for rabbits were little whippets hard as nails strike in bramle and thorn and guarranteed to catch one or two on a walk round on their own where a bigger dog would be lucky to get one in a week theres a trend now for bigger whippets with the addition of greyhound blood if i were to go for one id go for pure whippet blood from a genuine line of workers there is a lot of difference in strains ive seen some useless pedigree dogs but that was 20 years ago things might have changed a lot since then but id go for non ped myself really enjoyed this thread and great to see pics of some handy little dogs all the best juckler

[parkstone 24]

if i were to go for one id go for pure whippet blood from a genuine line of workers there is a lot of difference in strains ive seen some useless pedigree dogs but that was 20 years ago things might have changed a lot since then

 

The thing is like in any other breed I think a lot is down to the training, over the years ive owned/bred some cracking workers (KC reg Whippets) with great noses ect.

 

I now concentrate mainly on racing so most of my dogs arnt worked from an early age which IMO is when they develope their scent skills/marking ect.

 

but the 1's I use for working are great little dogs happy to sit in the cold/rain/snow for hours while ferreting arnt frightened to go into brambles ect ect.

and pups weve sold to working homes have more than proved themselves (in the right hands) as have pups from our stud dogs.

 

Like I said a bad trainer can ruine the best bred pup in the world then the line/breed gets blaimed.

[juckler123 707]

like you say a lot is down to the trainer but nose and toughness should come through naturaly as i said its over 20 years since i was out with the little dogs just mooching but if i was going for one again it would definitely have to come from working stock same as if i was going for a racing dog id get one from racing stock their probably is some good strains that dont get tested because of their worth but if it was for bunnies id like to see the parents doing it. definitely a sport on its own bushing with one two or three little flying machines

[Tina 1]

like you say a lot is down to the trainer but nose and toughness should come through naturaly as i said its over 20 years since i was out with the little dogs just mooching but if i was going for one again it would definitely have to come from working stock same as if i was going for a racing dog id get one from racing stock their probably is some good strains that dont get tested because of their worth but if it was for bunnies id like to see the parents doing it. definitely a sport on its own bushing with one two or three little flying machines

 

I agree, I've got a racing bred whippet, and a non-ped whippet, I'd never get a racing whippet again for hunting IMO they just don't compare, maybe it's the fact that my racing bred whippet had to have his 2 retained testicals removed (lower testosterone may play a part) I don't know?

 

but my non-ped has been a dream to own and train, (learn't very quickly and had that basic killing instinct from the moment I walked her onto a field, she went straight into hunting mode by herself!)

 

I trained my racing whippet exactly the same and he's just a coward when it comes to bad weather and hedges etc.......open runs he's great, but hunting threw bushes, hedges, etc deffo not! and it's frustrating sometimes as they have both been trained exactly the same way to start with! (and my racing whippet is trained more so now, but he's still the same)

 

I've got a fair weather hunter with my racing bred whippet :11:

[marko 30]

lets see if these pics work.

 

the pic in the water is two whippets the black demon and sandy bitch also my lurcher and border terrier she beat them to the rat well done to her they are normally a bit quicker some of the others of the dogs working various areas.

Edited November 24, 2006 by marko

[BITCH 135]

ANY BREEDERS WHO KEEP A CLOSED GENE POOL , IS GOING TO FAIL TO IMPROVE THE WORKING ATTRIBUTES

 

bollocks.if blood is working to a high standard you line bred to try and lock in the trait.

 

Sorry for the interjection gents...but while we are on the subject can somebody explain to me what a "hard blood" whippet is?

 

Oneredtrim.

 

i,d say a line that takes fox mate.

 

 

WELL BITCH ,

 

IVE KEPT SOME FAMILIES OF COMPETITION BRED ANIMALS AT THE TOP FOR 20 YRS ,

IVE LINE BRED , INBRED AND JUST PLAIN BRED , ..... SO DONT TRY AND LECTURE ON BREEDING PLEASE BELIVE ME .........OPEN CLASS ............ COMPETITION IS THE ONLY WAY FORWARD , ITS SAD BUT TRUE THAT MONEY DRIVES MOST COMPETITION , AND WHERE THE BIG MONEY.... IS .....THE BEST..... ARE !!

 

CHALKIE , AS YOU SAID , .. RABBIT " CATCHERS " SUPREME ,

 

RIGHT ITS BLOWING A HOOLIE , IAM OFF LAMPING

 

 

ALL THE BEST DUCKWING

 

to be honest i,ve never had a whippet,they wouldn,t suit my line of work,but as you prob already know i,ve advertised pups for a mate.the pups have been line bred for a bit more than rabbit control and imo and my mates you cant outcross each time and mentain this trait.

[brother fox 1]

Got a KC bred bitch that takes rabbit and fox. Bred her to the fastest racing KC dog in Australia and have four pups I wouldn't part with. All have good stamina and can work out of a vehicle. As long as you remember a whippet is for short sharp bursts you won't be disappointed.

[whin 463]

the best hunting types of dog ive had have had whippet blood in them ,im running awhippet grey at the moment nice little bitch retreives no problem and has abrain to which suits me for running allsorts good dogs these grew crosses

[parkstone 24]

I trained my racing whippet exactly the same

 

Exactly every dogs has differant needs unfortunatly its those with very little experiance that will never get the best out of a dog, but then go on to blaim the dog.

[marko 30]

Exactly every dogs has differant needs unfortunatly its those with very little experiance that will never get the best out of a dog, but then go on to blaim the dog.(quote)

 

exactly each to their own you find this mainly in younger dog handlers but obviously not all of them are impatient,given time and the right encouragement and the right training patience is the key,then you should have the right balance ,remember not all of us have had the luck to be brought on by older more knowledgeable hunters who show us the way forward so sometimes you have to learn from mistakes,and getting advice were possible.

[parkstone 24]

exactly each to their own you find this mainly in younger dog handlers but obviously not all of them are impatient,given time and the right encouragement and the right training patience is the key,then you should have the right balance ,remember not all of us have had the luck to be brought on by older more knowledgeable hunters who show us the way forward so sometimes you have to learn from mistakes,and getting advice were possible.

 

Hi Marko

 

I don't think age has anything to do with the ability to train a working dog, I know a lot of the more mature lads who cant train a dog to save their lives as they rush them to much they are far to eager to show how good thier dogs are.

 

i've seen some younger owners who have got great patiance and bring their dogs on very slowly who have worked on the dog at the dogs paced not pushed it into things it wasnt ready for.

 

every dog needs differant training at differant rates its very rare to get 2 dogs that require exactly the same training/food ect.

 

A true dog man trains the dog in carefull stages (ie: call back, retrieving ect) given the correct training I believe that 99.9% of dogs in the right hands will make up into good workers (what ever the breed)

[Tina 1]

both been trained exactly the same way to start with!

 

you missed off the TO START WITH! bit,

 

my friend of 20 years took over with Binx for a while (he's been hunting since he was 14 years old and is now 56 so i'd say a very experianced hunter) even he said that the dog was a wuss! he did however say he was a damn good runner when the ferrets bolted the rabbits, just not good with bushes, hedges, bad weather, so I have my do anything non-ped bitch to do all the work Binx don't want to do and then Binx to catch them in the open, he's very good at that bit, if my bitch is still in the bushes/hedges.

 

so it's NOT always down to being trained badly, some dogs are just born like that, no matter what training is given by an expert or novice IMO.