johnny boy68 11,726 Posted June 25, 2010 Report Share Posted June 25, 2010 err..maybe when you asked how many get left to bleed out without being finished off,as if most do I know a lot run and bleed out but how many dont get tracked and finished.......just wondering Thats my exact words!!Like i said was just wondering how many "if any" dont get tracked for whatever the reason could be and theres a lot of reasons.....the animal could run onto ground you've no permission on etc Why do people misconstrue what people say.......then come out with stupid remarks like your an anti Did anybody tell me if any did you and SGS came out with RSPCA lover and sheep shagger.........so "my friend" who's the childish one Your question apply's just as much to deer stalking in the UK as it does in that video the same situation arise's when animals are shot by rifle many deer run after the shot and it is up to the hunter to be able to track an animal that is shot be it by bow or rifle I would imagine that some are lost despite the best efforts to find the animal. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
scothunter 12,609 Posted June 25, 2010 Report Share Posted June 25, 2010 well he has the right to wind you up then? i didnt even have one serious reply to that thread and then it dissapeared that happens to a lot of my threads and posts,even the ones were i ask why they went lol no offence blan but were you really expecting a serious reply?if my memory serves me correctly.you said do you think a 100 down syndromes could take over the town you live in. how the hell can someone seriously give you an answer to that? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Hannah4181 260 Posted June 25, 2010 Report Share Posted June 25, 2010 well he has the right to wind you up then? i didnt even have one serious reply to that thread and then it dissapeared that happens to a lot of my threads and posts,even the ones were i ask why they went lol no offence blan but were you really expecting a serious reply?if my memory serves me correctly.you said do you think a 100 down syndromes could take over the town you live in. how the hell can someone seriously give you an answer to that? Blan's random posts crack me up! I missed that one! But yes as scothunter has suggested, who in their right mind would give you a serious reply to that! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Hannah4181 260 Posted June 25, 2010 Report Share Posted June 25, 2010 whatever johny boy,im not taking anything written here personally unlike you,it just happens that being pro-hunting i agree with him here Blan, Johnny's post was not disagreeing with the method of hunting or the technique, he simply asked a question about the form of hunting, because he obviously doesn't know a great deal about it, due to not participating in it himself. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
scothunter 12,609 Posted June 25, 2010 Report Share Posted June 25, 2010 no no scot your completely wrong i said 1000 down syndromee's not 100 thats just crazy im sure it wasnt as many as a thousand you said,but as i dont know for sure ill give you the benefit of the doubt,no matter it was a ludicrous idea and probally offensive to some people and there your reason it dissapeared. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
SHOTGUNSNIPER 47 Posted June 25, 2010 Author Report Share Posted June 25, 2010 err..maybe when you asked how many get left to bleed out without being finished off,as if most do I know a lot run and bleed out but how many dont get tracked and finished.......just wondering Thats my exact words!!Like i said was just wondering how many "if any" dont get tracked for whatever the reason could be and theres a lot of reasons.....the animal could run onto ground you've no permission on etc Why do people misconstrue what people say.......then come out with stupid remarks like your an anti Did anybody tell me if any did you and SGS came out with RSPCA lover and sheep shagger.........so "my friend" who's the childish one Your question apply's just as much to deer stalking in the UK as it does in that video the same situation arise's when animals are shot by rifle many deer run after the shot and it is up to the hunter to be able to track an animal that is shot be it by bow or rifle I would imagine that some are lost despite the best efforts to find the animal. Great answer Danw This is where a blood trailing dog can be used... Usually there is a sufficient blood trail with archery gear but if an animal is hit high or in a non vital area it can be tough to follow.....I have never lost an animal that I shot with archery tackle but I have been on some wack and track escapades due to other hunters poor shooting... This year is the first year I have had a dog to help find shot animals and we were called out 7 times to find deer that were lost by other hunters... 3 rifle shot deer and 4 archery shot...The dog found them all... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Hannah4181 260 Posted June 25, 2010 Report Share Posted June 25, 2010 well if its not really hunting what is it? and he also suggested they dont get tracked and finished sgs even said he's never lost one himself se la vie IN HIS OPINION. Which we are all entitled to have. He also never "suggested" the above . . . your Interpretation of the text, was such that he was implying the animals are left to suffer. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
SHOTGUNSNIPER 47 Posted June 25, 2010 Author Report Share Posted June 25, 2010 Blan this is why we jump all over SGS's threads......I asked a question what did I get as an answer!?Anti,RSPCA and sheep shagger......we can all get personal!But whats the point its not the school-yard is it but if thats what floats his boat let him carry on,and if you feel the need to jump on his bollocks band-wagon then crack on fella This is what I said > "The American Archery Association has proclaimed the Welsh unsuitable for archery hunting as their concentration is affected by their preoccupied affinity to sheep and rams..." You are reading thing's like "ram shagger" into it due to your lack of concentration - for luvin sake pay attention man - I did say the RSPCA is the place for you so at least you got that part right.... ! It's just a suggestion mate - a little volunteer work may help you sort out your thoughts maybe you can organize a Be Kind To The Sheep Day in Wales.... Just think of the feeling of accomplishment that could bring..... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
SHOTGUNSNIPER 47 Posted June 25, 2010 Author Report Share Posted June 25, 2010 well if its not really hunting what is it? and he also suggested they dont get tracked and finished sgs even said he's never lost one himself se la vie IN HIS OPINION. Which we are all entitled to have. He also never "suggested" the above . . . your Interpretation of the text, was such that he was implying the animals are left to suffer. Interpretation/opinion - entitlement yes .... jonyboy 68's first statement was that it was "not really hunting" - pretty straight forward - he also say's his attitude towards bowhunting is akin to how the shooting community looks down on folks who use dog's to hunt... An anti complaining about antis --- by his own admission he is anti hunting - "except for how he hunts"....This is why I suggest he volunteers to the RSPCA ....Sort his thoughts out ya know! I expect that jonyboy will want to take a p!55 on this along with some other wana be RSPCA volunteers.... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yi_Krx6C_7w Quote Link to post Share on other sites
DUCKWING 302 Posted June 25, 2010 Report Share Posted June 25, 2010 GREAT HUNTING FOOTAGE ....... FROM A DIFFERENT COUNTRY WITH DIFFERENT WAYS AND VIEWS , HATS OF TO THE MAN TAKES A LOT OF BALLS TO GET WITHIN BOW RANGE OF AN ANIMAL THAT COULD QUITE EASILY KILL THEM WITH ONE SWIPE AND WAS WITHIN A FEW SECONDS CHARGE IF MISSED ........ THE AMERICANS COME FROM A CONTINENT THAT UNTIL RECENTLY THEIR NATIVE AMERICAN POPULATION HUNTED WITH NOTHING ELSE ..... TO ME ITS GREAT TO SEE SKILL AND WOOD CRAFT OF A HUNTER , NOT STANDING A HUNDRED YDS AWAY WITH A TELESCOPIC SIGHT AND A CANNOT MISS RIFLE ,..... YEAP .... HATS OFF TO THE YANKS ... I THINK THEY HAVE IT RIGHT .. THE BLACK POWDER SEASON IS THE SAME .... TO ME TO SAY ITS NOT REALLY HUNTING IS ABSOLUTE BULLSHITE ..... COULD WE SAY THE SAME ABOUT REARED PHEASENTS ????? PARK FALLOW ?????? I COULD GO ON ...... I HAVE TO AGREE WITH SGS ....... ANY HUNTER THAT DECRYS ANOTHERS SPORT IS AKIN TO THE ANIMAL LOONEYS IN MY BOOK I HAVE HUNTED MOST WAYS IN MY LIFE ..... FROM FERRETING TO FISHING ......... KILLING ANY ANIMAL CAN BE CLASSED AS CRUEL BY INDIVIDUALS ....... HOWEVER MY AIM IN LIFE IS TO " RESPECT MY QUARRY BOTH DEAD AND ALIVE " THEY ARE TRUELY WORDS TO LIVE BY ALL THE BEST DUCKWING 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
johnny boy68 11,726 Posted June 25, 2010 Report Share Posted June 25, 2010 well if its not really hunting what is it? and he also suggested they dont get tracked and finished sgs even said he's never lost one himself se la vie IN HIS OPINION. Which we are all entitled to have. He also never "suggested" the above . . . your Interpretation of the text, was such that he was implying the animals are left to suffer. Interpretation/opinion - entitlement yes .... jonyboy 68's first statement was that it was "not really hunting" - pretty straight forward - he also say's his attitude towards bowhunting is akin to how the antis "feel" about the folks who use dog's to hunt... So by his own admission he is anti hunting - "except for how he hunts"....This is why I suggest he volunteers to the RSPCA ....Sort his thoughts out ya know! I expect that jonyboy will want to take a p!55 on this along with some other wana be RSPCA volunteers.... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yi_Krx6C_7w Right fella you need to get things right for a start its not Whales they swim in the sea you half-wit!!I live in Wales!What i said was not how the anti's feel towards hunting with dogs i was on about how a lot of the "shooting" community feel about us dog boys!You've read something again and gone into childish "little man syndrome" again,to be honest you really are a sad little man.Let me guess when you played games as a kid you was always last to be picked wasn't you Quote Link to post Share on other sites
DEERMAN 1,020 Posted June 25, 2010 Report Share Posted June 25, 2010 Blan this is why we jump all over SGS's threads......I asked a question what did I get as an answer!?Anti,RSPCA and sheep shagger......we can all get personal!But whats the point its not the school-yard is it but if thats what floats his boat let him carry on,and if you feel the need to jump on his bollocks band-wagon then crack on fella This is what I said > "The American Archery Association has proclaimed the Welsh unsuitable for archery hunting as their concentration is affected by their preoccupied affinity to sheep and rams..." You are reading thing's like "ram shagger" into it due to your lack of concentration - for luvin sake pay attention man - I did say the RSPCA is the place for you so at least you got that part right.... ! It's just a suggestion mate - a little volunteer work may help you sort out your thoughts maybe you can organize a Be Kind To The Sheep Day in Whales.... Just think of the feeling of accomplishment that could bring..... caerful boyo theres a few welsh on here Quote Link to post Share on other sites
johnny boy68 11,726 Posted June 25, 2010 Report Share Posted June 25, 2010 Watch the video again 90% of those deer and boar where shot at a feeding station,please explain to me how they hunted them.Apart from the shooting of them with a bow which I think was very skillful by the way,I wouldn't class that as hunting......I was under the impression that when you hunted something you went and hunted it not set a hide up in a tree and put a feeding station out to entice the animals in. To me the thrill of hunting as always been in the hunting of a animal not the killing which is what that video looks like its doing IMO If I'm a "bunny hugger" for enjoying hunting my chosen quarry rather than baiting it then so be it Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Aaron Proffitt 142 Posted June 25, 2010 Report Share Posted June 25, 2010 Awright you non-archery hunting guys ...a little education and perspective. I hunt with a longbow and limit my shots to under 30 yards; but strive to get even closer ,say, 15. I use a 60 lb. Saxon longbow or either one of my Sunset Hill longbows ( 50 and 55 lb., respectively) and handmade cedar arrows . In over twenty years, I have taken numerous whiletail deer, mule deer, bears, antelope, and pigs. Etc.. Someone keeps saying that game "bleeds out" . That's not how it works in the sense that you are thinking. AS an arrow passes thru the heart/lungs it creates a channel that does hemmorage ( alot I might add) but it also shuts down those organs. The result is oxygen depletion in the blood stream to the brain. How quickly does it happen ? The pronghorn antelope is the fastest land animal in North America. I have hit antelope and they take off at a dead sprint only to hit the ground with-in 50 yards . At a 55 mile per hour sprint, they cover 50 yards in mere seconds. Hell, they cover 250 yards in seconds. I have also shot quite a few deer that jerked their head up at the shot, arrow zips completely thru them, and they return to eating....a few seconds later their needs go wobbly and their down. In 20 years , I have lost one animal and that was a whitetail doe who was with 3 others. At the shot they sprinted down a ravine and then they all crossed a river. My guess is she got into the river and went down and I lost her there. All evidence suggested she made it to the river but not the other side. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
johnny boy68 11,726 Posted June 25, 2010 Report Share Posted June 25, 2010 Awright you non-archery hunting guys ...a little education and perspective. I hunt with a longbow and limit my shots to under 30 yards; but strive to get even closer ,say, 15. I use a 60 lb. Saxon longbow or either one of my Sunset Hill longbows ( 50 and 55 lb., respectively) and handmade cedar arrows . In over twenty years, I have taken numerous whiletail deer, mule deer, bears, antelope, and pigs. Etc.. Someone keeps saying that game "bleeds out" . That's not how it works in the sense that you are thinking. AS an arrow passes thru the heart/lungs it creates a channel that does hemmorage ( alot I might add) but it also shuts down those organs. The result is oxygen depletion in the blood stream to the brain. How quickly does it happen ? The pronghorn antelope is the fastest land animal in North America. I have hit antelope and they take off at a dead sprint only to hit the ground with-in 50 yards . At a 55 mile per hour sprint, they cover 50 yards in mere seconds. Hell, they cover 250 yards in seconds. I have also shot quite a few deer that jerked their head up at the shot, arrow zips completely thru them, and they return to eating....a few seconds later their needs go wobbly and their down. In 20 years , I have lost one animal and that was a whitetail doe who was with 3 others. At the shot they sprinted down a ravine and then they all crossed a river. My guess is she got into the river and went down and I lost her there. All evidence suggested she made it to the river but not the other side. Thanks for that Aaron Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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