shot and retrieved fox question

[chimp 299]

out lamping rabbits and a fox got up , nothing they can do.proving your intentons is hard

 

that wouldnt hold up and would of thought the kind of response would be ' we dont have to prove your intentions we caught you with your dog on a fox' even tho they have to find you guilty you still have to supply evidence to show your innocent (maybe wrong)

 

i just think if you had done everything in your power ie: took the shot , they would then have to prove you wrong

[chimp 299]

Maybe they could do you on the competent bit - like if you only wounded the fox and had to 'set dogs on it' to dispatch it then you were not a competent person with the gun and so causing cruelty???

 

 

yeah maybe , ok what about the 'the fox was injured so i relieved it's suffering' ?

[whippet 99 2,613]

how many times have you been out day time mooching when a hare or a deer gets up, i cant call my dogs off easily, better man if you can, accidental mate. these dogs were made for hunting and trying to get a dog to run certain quarry is impossible. if it runs , instinct takes over.something you will never take out of a dog

[gerron 13]

Maybe they could do you on the competent bit - like if you only wounded the fox and had to 'set dogs on it' to dispatch it then you were not a competent person with the gun and so causing cruelty???

 

 

yeah maybe , ok what about the 'the fox was injured so i relieved it's suffering' ?

 

I doubt setting a dog on a injured fox would be deemed acceptable to relieve its suffering

[MOO 730]

If you have a gun on you and a firearm or shot gun cert there would be no court in the land that could charge you

[Born Hunter 17,837]

Think your all looking at the law from the wrong angle, using a dog to follow up a wounded animal. Now this of course is perfectly legal, but personally i would be thinking more along the lines of going out with your lurcher for flushing to the gun and due to circumstances the dog caught a flushed fox before you could shoot, completely unintentionally. Or of course you went out with your lurcher just mooching about for rabbits and a fox flushed, again completely unintentional. If your out after rabbits, and theres a serious risk of getting pulled, prepare approriately, ie a rabbit in your game bag or a ferret with you. Plenty of loopholes for lads on permission, just use your heads after doing your research.

[Guest fence_hopper]

who gives a fuk you sound like a bunch off old women get on with it and fuk the ban

[chimp 299]

Think your all looking at the law from the wrong angle, using a dog to follow up a wounded animal. Now this of course is perfectly legal, but personally i would be thinking more along the lines of going out with your lurcher for flushing to the gun and due to circumstances the dog caught a flushed fox before you could shoot, completely unintentionally. Or of course you went out with your lurcher just mooching about for rabbits and a fox flushed, again completely unintentional. If your out after rabbits, and theres a serious risk of getting pulled, prepare approriately, ie a rabbit in your game bag or a ferret with you. Plenty of loopholes for lads on permission, just use your heads after doing your research.

 

 

your right i went a little deep with it and you made it look simple in one post lol , ok flushing to gun sounds good , would that cover lamping still? i presume so

[MOO 730]

who gives a fuk you sound like a bunch off old women get on with it and fuk the ban

just the responce i expected from you

[chimp 299]

who gives a fuk you sound like a bunch off old women get on with it and fuk the ban

 

 

dont get me wrong i do 'just get on with it' i can see by your post and general attitude the way you typed that you have shown your mentality (nothing wrong with that mind)thats just your way of dealing with it. me on the other hand just like to cover all bases while on permission

 

i was just questioning the act from a legal point of view.

[Born Hunter 17,837]

Think your all looking at the law from the wrong angle, using a dog to follow up a wounded animal. Now this of course is perfectly legal, but personally i would be thinking more along the lines of going out with your lurcher for flushing to the gun and due to circumstances the dog caught a flushed fox before you could shoot, completely unintentionally. Or of course you went out with your lurcher just mooching about for rabbits and a fox flushed, again completely unintentional. If your out after rabbits, and theres a serious risk of getting pulled, prepare approriately, ie a rabbit in your game bag or a ferret with you. Plenty of loopholes for lads on permission, just use your heads after doing your research.

 

 

your right i went a little deep with it and you made it look simple in one post lol , ok flushing to gun sounds good , would that cover lamping still? i presume so

 

Doubt it as its not the done thing to use a dog to flush on the lamp. But it wouldnt be the first time a lurcher has ran out of the beam for somthing you havnt seen and made a kill... Remember, your on permission, lamping rabbits, trying your best to adhere to the law, your game bag has a couple of bunnies in it already... If your dog kills a fox you didnt 'intentionally' slip it on you HAVE NOT broken any law. If your really paranoid make sure you have written permission for lamping with dogs in your motor and youve got a few rabbits in your bag already.

 

The law might be an arse, but for lads on permission its not too bad as it stands.

[chimp 299]

Think your all looking at the law from the wrong angle, using a dog to follow up a wounded animal. Now this of course is perfectly legal, but personally i would be thinking more along the lines of going out with your lurcher for flushing to the gun and due to circumstances the dog caught a flushed fox before you could shoot, completely unintentionally. Or of course you went out with your lurcher just mooching about for rabbits and a fox flushed, again completely unintentional. If your out after rabbits, and theres a serious risk of getting pulled, prepare approriately, ie a rabbit in your game bag or a ferret with you. Plenty of loopholes for lads on permission, just use your heads after doing your research.

 

 

your right i went a little deep with it and you made it look simple in one post lol , ok flushing to gun sounds good , would that cover lamping still? i presume so

 

 

 

Doubt it as its not the done thing to use a dog to flush on the lamp. But it wouldnt be the first time a lurcher has ran out of the beam for somthing you havnt seen and made a kill... Remember, your on permission, lamping rabbits, trying your best to adhere to the law, your game bag has a couple of bunnies in it already... If your dog kills a fox you didnt 'intentionally' slip it on you HAVE NOT broken any law. If your really paranoid make sure you have written permission for lamping with dogs in your motor and youve got a few rabbits in your bag already.

 

The law might be an arse, but for lads on permission its not too bad as it stands.

 

 

not paranoid mate just questioning some parts of the act which has obviously done a million times before lol

[Born Hunter 17,837]

Think your all looking at the law from the wrong angle, using a dog to follow up a wounded animal. Now this of course is perfectly legal, but personally i would be thinking more along the lines of going out with your lurcher for flushing to the gun and due to circumstances the dog caught a flushed fox before you could shoot, completely unintentionally. Or of course you went out with your lurcher just mooching about for rabbits and a fox flushed, again completely unintentional. If your out after rabbits, and theres a serious risk of getting pulled, prepare approriately, ie a rabbit in your game bag or a ferret with you. Plenty of loopholes for lads on permission, just use your heads after doing your research.

 

 

your right i went a little deep with it and you made it look simple in one post lol , ok flushing to gun sounds good , would that cover lamping still? i presume so

 

 

 

Doubt it as its not the done thing to use a dog to flush on the lamp. But it wouldnt be the first time a lurcher has ran out of the beam for somthing you havnt seen and made a kill... Remember, your on permission, lamping rabbits, trying your best to adhere to the law, your game bag has a couple of bunnies in it already... If your dog kills a fox you didnt 'intentionally' slip it on you HAVE NOT broken any law. If your really paranoid make sure you have written permission for lamping with dogs in your motor and youve got a few rabbits in your bag already.

 

The law might be an arse, but for lads on permission its not too bad as it stands.

 

 

not paranoid mate just questioning some parts of the act which has obviously done a million times before lol

 

Its not paranoia if they are really after us ...............and they are! lol

[HBG 350]

as no one ever had a fox run towards the dog as its retrieving a live squealing rabbit,suppose that would be an accident?????